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What happens when two passionate music lovers discover a list ranking "The 25 Most Important Countrymen of the Last 25 Years" that places George Strait at #15 and Garth Brooks at #13? Absolute entertainment chaos! Jay and Tiffany tear into this controversial ranking with unfiltered commentary, genuine shock, and plenty of laughs as they champion the artists they believe truly shaped country music.

The pair meticulously analyze the full list, from Dierks Bentley at #25 to Kenny Chesney at #1, questioning criteria and offering their own passionate takes on who deserves recognition. "George Strait should be number one, if not number two, to Garth Brooks," Jay insists, sparking a deeper conversation about what constitutes true influence in the country music landscape. Their chemistry shines through as they debate artistic merit, commercial success, and lasting cultural impact.

Beyond the heated rankings discussion, the episode delivers fresh industry updates including Post Malone's generous $70,000 tip at an Arizona dive bar, Morgan Wallen helping Christian singer Ann Wilson through her grief, and Willie Nelson narrowly escaping damage to his beloved guitar "Trigger" during a storm. The hosts also share personal triumphs, with Jay beaming about his daughter's dance competition success and Tiffany celebrating her new podcast launch.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when listeners weigh in on the question of the day: "Who are some underrated male vocalists in country music?" From Joe Nichols to Josh Turner, the responses reveal hidden gems and overlooked talents that deserve more recognition. Join us for this entertaining deep-dive into country music's most influential figures, the stories behind today's headlines, and the vibrant community that makes this show special.

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Tony Scott:

Welcome to The Jay Franze Show, a behind-the-curtain look at the entertainment industry, with insights you can't pay for and stories you've never heard. Now here's your host, Jay Francie.

Jay Franze:

And we are coming at you live. I am Jay Francie and with me tonight the Mindy to my Mork, my beautiful co-host, Miss Tiffany Mason.

Tiffany Mason:

Ooh, I wish I knew the little sounds that Mork and Mindy always made and I would do that, but I don't know what they were, or hand hand, some hand thing I'm almost afraid to ask about the sounds.

Jay Franze:

If you are new to the show, this is your source for the latest news, reviews and interviews. So if you would like to join in, comment or fire off any questions, please head over to jayfranze. com. And, as we say, if you feel froggy, please head over to jayfranze. com/ live and you can join us right here. Live to ask us questions, make your comments or make fun of us, we don't care.

Tiffany Mason:

Jay doesn't care, I'm sensitive. There you go.

Jay Franze:

All right, miss Tiffany. Before we get started, let's talk about the question of the day. Who are some underrated male vocalists? Who?

Tony Scott:

are some underrated male vocalists.

Jay Franze:

Don't answer now, save it.

Tiffany Mason:

And if you would?

Jay Franze:

like to participate in our little reindeer games. Go ahead and put your responses in the comments and we will read them a little later in the show. Huh nice, let's kick this thing off tonight. I saw an article today, an article that I thought was humorous. But let's go ahead and review it a little bit and you can give me your thoughts and see what you think.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

The article was the 25 most important countrymen of the last 25 years.

Tiffany Mason:

Wow, these are ranked now 25 most important countrymen.

Jay Franze:

I don't know why the women aren't important, but the men are in this article, so I'm going to go down the list.

Tiffany Mason:

Chauvinistic pigs who made.

Jay Franze:

The list. 25 is a lot to go through, but I'll go through them quick. Maybe we can spend a little bit more time on the top 10, but I'm going to go through the honorable mentions of the remaining 25. And you can give me your opinions if you think they belong on the list of the most important people of the past 25 years.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, that sounds like a plan.

Jay Franze:

All right, number 25. Hockey player Dierks Bentley. You got it. Look at you, we're on a roll tonight. First one, dierks Bentley. Do we think he's one of the most important men of the past 25 years when it comes to country music?

Tiffany Mason:

Well, what I want to know is are they giving any reasons why? Because I don't have a rolodex of what every country artist has been up to you're gonna want me to read.

Jay Franze:

I'll tell you what I'll read.

Tiffany Mason:

When we get down to the yeah, yeah, because otherwise I don't know we will be here all night long the fact that he was snarky with you at hockey.

Jay Franze:

no, You've got to realize I'm a Bostonian and I enjoy that banter, but yes, we got in a few scuffles when we were on the ice. It says he's got rare influences that include bluegrass and Americana. So okay, I can kind of see that. Number 24, jamie Johnson.

Tiffany Mason:

Number 23, Kid.

Jay Franze:

Rock Whoa Okay.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I think I told you that I saw his little walk down Broadway with the guy from the news channel and I mean I was pretty impressed by the interview, quite honestly, and I think he made a pretty big impact on music. So I'm going to go with yes, Okay, it says with his song Pitcher.

Jay Franze:

He carved his way big impact on music, so I'm going to go with yes, okay, it says with his song Pitcher he carved his way into the country music scene.

Tiffany Mason:

I do love that song and remember I recommended it for the playlist for the long drive, long car ride drive.

Jay Franze:

Oh, you got to take some credit. I get it. I see where this is going already.

Tiffany Mason:

I need to validate my choices.

Jay Franze:

Understood. I like Kid Rock? I get it. I see where this is going already. I need to validate my choices. Understood. I like Kid Rock? I do. I don't know if he's one of the most influential people in country music or influential men in country music Men, yeah, yes, but I do like him.

Tiffany Mason:

Also, if it's not even just on the music, but if it's on like you, I think that he had a fashion following he is rather unicu number 22, kane brown oh, love me some. I know you like kane I want to hate that song so much backseat driver but I love it, god, I love it he's already made his debut in the Grand Old Opry.

Jay Franze:

I mean, he's got a number of singles out, I mean constantly on the billboard charts, I would say in the past 25 years, I don't know. There's got to be more Like number 21. I can go with number 21. Luke Bryan.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, yep, I Luke Bryan, okay, mm-hmm, yep.

Jay Franze:

I like Luke Bryan and all I can think about every time I hear Luke Bryan's name is there was a group of girls. I know that, just said he's got the best country music.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, I don't know if that's true or not. Have they not seen George Straits?

Jay Franze:

I'm happy to say no on both accounts, but I do like Luke Bryan when I think of Luke Bryan I always think of.

Tiffany Mason:

Didn't he take his brother's kids when his brother passed?

Jay Franze:

I don't know, but that would be sad as hell.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I want to say that's what happened. I want to say that's what happened.

Jay Franze:

Oh well, yeah, Thanks for that one.

Tiffany Mason:

That should be an uplifting story. I mean it's sad that they lost him, but yes it's sad and uplifting at the same time.

Jay Franze:

But, oh man, that's tough. But yes, Luke Bryan, I like Luke Bryan and, as I've mentioned in the past, we do have his song on the playlist of my and my daughter's road trip.

Tiffany Mason:

Kick the Dust Up.

Jay Franze:

No Play it again. Play it again. Play it again.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I like and I still hear that song on the radio regularly.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I do too. I heard it just yesterday. As a matter of fact, number 20 jelly roll. I feel like this list is a little bit more current than in the past 25 years, or maybe I'm gonna hold judgment, but maybe the older artists are in the top 10.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, well, you can see the whole list. Actually, I can't. I waited oh. I did, I waited and this list is so spread out that I can only see one number at a time.

Jay Franze:

Oh, wow Okay.

Tiffany Mason:

I love it.

Jay Franze:

Level playing field. So we are experiencing this at the same time. Wow, oh, we are experiencing this at the same time.

Tiffany Mason:

Wow, oh, we are crazy people. Sam hunt number 19, I mean, I think. Yes, actually not most influential, but influential in the fact that he started that. I really don't know what the genre is called, but it's I call it like rap country, where he talks really fast, he's not really rapping, but he's like saying the words and then he's singing and I feel like that was a new kind of style yeah.

Jay Franze:

All right, I'll give it to you. I didn't think about it that way, but yes, I'll give it to you. I think of it more like he just hasn't been around that long.

Tiffany Mason:

No, you're right.

Tony Scott:

But yeah, bit more like he's just hasn't been around that long but no, you're right, but yeah, number 18 is zach bryan, not bryant, but bryan.

Jay Franze:

I've been listening to zach bryan a little bit more often lately and I'm starting to get into him quite a bit something in the orange.

Tiffany Mason:

I like that song a lot.

Jay Franze:

That is an amazing song.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I agree with that.

Jay Franze:

All right, glad to see him on the list Number 17,. Sturgill Simpson.

Tiffany Mason:

Sorry, we have to back up.

Jay Franze:

Okay, back up to what number? I mean back to 25?, Just where we just were.

Tony Scott:

Want me to start over?

Tiffany Mason:

Just where we were. No, just Mr Zach, You're a great teen, Zach Bryan. I think that he too is bringing up another style of music, another, you know, I don't know style, Because it's also it's kind of folky, but it's definitely something different.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, no, I like him. He's got a little bit of edge to him. I like all that stuff in the first line of their description. I said I wouldn't really get into the description still later, but the first line says simply put zach bryan said f the machine and became his own type of country superstar oh, there you. Backing up your statement Number 17,. Sturgill Simpson.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know who that is.

Jay Franze:

Neither do I, but I'm glad you made the list. I don't know why you're on the list.

Tiffany Mason:

He's a Grammy winner whose grassroots fan base has swelled larger than a meadow. Okay, In some ways he's like Eric.

Jay Franze:

Church with less marketing. I like Eric Church. I don't know. Now I'm going to have to put that on my list. See, I gave myself homework. We didn't have to do this list. We didn't have to do this at all, and now I have homework, alright. Moving on, number 16, darius Rucker. You know what I like that? He's on the list, I think he's. If this list was called something else, I think I would be okay with it. But most influential, it's tough, I like Darius.

Tony Scott:

Rucker.

Jay Franze:

I almost like his country music as much or more than Hootie and the Blowfish.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh no, I like it way more.

Jay Franze:

Do you?

Tiffany Mason:

Yes.

Jay Franze:

I like Hootie and the Blowfish too, but I do like Darius Rucker as a solo artist.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I like him better on his own.

Jay Franze:

Okay, don't get carried away. Number 15, the best accent in country music goes to George Strait. Woo-hoo, Now come on.

Tiffany Mason:

Number 15.

Jay Franze:

See this is where we're going to have a problem. George Strait should be number one, if not number two, to Garth Brooks. That should be the running for one and two right there.

Tiffany Mason:

Why do you think that?

Jay Franze:

Because they're the two biggest superstars ever in country music. They've influenced everybody under the sun. See, I'm mad at this list. Now Number 15. I was okay with the newcomers being on the list especially high up on the list, but you want the OGs a little higher. Well, most influential, george.

Tony Scott:

Strait, I'm sorry.

Jay Franze:

Jay George Strait. How many number ones did we see you had 60 oh yeah mm-hmm, okay, mm-hmm sorry, george, but. I think you deserve it and Tiffany thinks you have a nice house. If you'd like to come on and talk to us about either one of those things, we will be happy to entertain you.

Tiffany Mason:

Jayfranciecom slash live number 14 jason isbell I do not know this artist, but I know that I interviewed somebody on my podcast about one of his songs and that guy was all about some jason isbell he looks kind of nerdy oh well I mean you can't judge a book by its cover.

Jay Franze:

He dresses the way I dress when I go into meetings and stuff. So if he looks nerdy, I look nerdy.

Tony Scott:

But I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing.

Jay Franze:

He's got some hip glasses on in the picture, but he's wearing a blazer and a button-down shirt. He looks cool.

Tiffany Mason:

I'll give it to him. He looks sharp. That's just a professional look. I don't feel like that's a nerdy look. Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Well, I think it's the glasses and the way he's got his hair done. Okay, you know what? He reminds me of Two and a half men, the nerdy brother.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, yeah, okay. That's what he looks, but I don't remember what Alan's real name is.

Jay Franze:

It's all right. He's a popular actor. He doesn't need my recognition. Oh, give me a break. Number 13, garth Brooks, I'm calling foul right now.

Tiffany Mason:

I was going to say you better call these people.

Jay Franze:

Calling foul and I'm disappointed in the name you've chosen for your list.

Tiffany Mason:

I need to let you know that John Cryer is.

Jay Franze:

John Cryer. Yes, Thank you very much.

Tiffany Mason:

No problem. I mean, maybe we just throw this whole segment out.

Jay Franze:

Might have to. Editing is going to be when it comes to this. I might rearrange it and put these in the order, I think.

Tiffany Mason:

Maybe we are like the guy who said F to the machine.

Jay Franze:

F to the list.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, now I'm wondering who they think is more influential.

Jay Franze:

Well, number 12, they think, is Alan Jackson. I think Alan Jackson deserves to be up on this list, but not ahead of Garth Brooks.

Tiffany Mason:

Agreed, agreed. Did Alan Jackson do a whole bunch of performances for the troops?

Jay Franze:

He did.

Tiffany Mason:

I kind of thought so. So I wonder if that plays into it a little bit like what they've given back to the country or what they've done for the troops. You know, I don't know. I would think Garth has done some of that too, but I don't remember ever hearing it in the news.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, garth Brooks has done a lot of that stuff. He's done it with his wife as well.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yeah, they all seen a lot of stuff with his wife.

Jay Franze:

He's done a lot with his wife and apparently, and he's being accused of doing some stuff with some other people. No, I said accused, I mean I don't think he did it, you know moving on, all right um number 11 brad paisley. What? What you don't like, brad paisley? Uh, I do, I just I like him for the simple fact that his wife is hot.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

His wife is definitely hot. I like his wife.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't think that that was part of the criteria for these men.

Jay Franze:

We don't know. Apparently, they have a way of doing it on their own. I think Brad Paisley is not only a great country singer, but he's an amazing guitar player and songwriter. He's clever and you know, I'll give it to him. He deserves to be up on the top 10. I don't know if and this is for the last 25 years, because if- we're going to go further back.

Jay Franze:

We get some other people that should be on the top 10. Yeah, but if we're doing the top or the past 25 years, brad Paisley deserves to be in the top 10. Just not in front of Garth Brooks or George Strait. Agreed, all right.

Tiffany Mason:

Number 10, Luke Combs.

Jay Franze:

Ooh okay, I mean I, like you know, again been listening to him a little bit more often these days.

Tiffany Mason:

But he's four-time diamond certified at this point. Mm-hmm, it's pretty impressive. Yeah, but yes, he's I think that was last week.

Jay Franze:

We reported that we did see that, I remembered I'm proud of you it's also written right down here in this number nine, speaking of amazing guitar players, it would be I don't know.

Tiffany Mason:

Be nice to me, be nice to me, I just don't know Keith Urban. Oh, okay.

Jay Franze:

He is beyond good at the guitar and we're talking about underrated people. He doesn't get the credit he deserves for playing that guitar.

Tiffany Mason:

Heie's pretty good with the strings he's good with his fingers.

Jay Franze:

Same thing with Brad Paisley he's good with his fingers too.

Tiffany Mason:

That's what his wife said.

Jay Franze:

I don't know either of those things firsthand but to land a wife like either of theirs maybe there's some something to that. His wife is very nice. I had a chance to meet his wife. She was very nice. Number eight, my favorite number. If you out there in the crew would like to make note of that, number eight is my favorite number and number eight goes to jason aldean oh, good call. I like Jason Aldean, I like him a lot. Dirt Road Anthem amazing song.

Tiffany Mason:

Try that in a small town. I love the controversy and also freaking. Try that in a small town, Right? I don't know why there's controversy on that.

Jay Franze:

I mean that is the dumbest thing in the world to me. So stupid. But it's a great song nonetheless, and he's a great artist and he's a great artist. Does he deserve to be above garth brooks or george straight?

Tiffany Mason:

no, no, and you know what? I think he would say that as well. I think that he would say that as well too. I interviewed a lady and asked her you know what song she picked? And she picked a song by jason aldean, and she was in las vegas during the shooting.

Jay Franze:

So I wonder if it's maybe how he handled that, you know I used to live right down the road from where that shooting was really yes, my the days of the comedy oh, that's, scary um number seven. I'm laughing because of the picture. Sorry, I know this is an audio show but the picture is a button-on shirt that is opened all the way down to the belly button and not a single hair on the chest.

Tiffany Mason:

Is it Kid Rock?

Jay Franze:

We've already had Kid Rock on this list. I know Number seven goes to Tim McGraw.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, your favorite. I have nothing against Tim McGraw, oh your favorite.

Jay Franze:

I have nothing against Tim McGraw. I just and he admits he's earned my respect by saying he's not the greatest singer, that he's a performer. So he did earn my respect by saying that, because not everybody can be the best singer in the world, but he is a good performer. He's a great actor I'll give him that he's a better actor than he is a country singer, but he made it as a country singer first and I love his songs.

Tiffany Mason:

I really liked him and Faith Hill as a couple, like I. Just I think everybody liked watching them. You know speculation that they were a couple and then they got married and I don't know. I watching them.

Jay Franze:

You know speculation that they were a couple and then they got married and I don't know. I think everybody liked it. I did. I'm gonna stay off that story. We're gonna move. Okay, let's do it. Yes, there was a lot of controversy over that couple, how they got together and all that stuff. It was a big deal in nashville for a while oh, I'm sure it was. Anyways, moving on, yep Number six, blake Shelton.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, I can see that one 100%.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, again.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, because he's doing the shows different shows and then his what?

Jay Franze:

They were talking about him on the radio today that he got fired from the Voice.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, he did.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, they said he couldn't keep his mouth shut. I didn't realize he got fired from the Voice and I don't know that to be true. It's just what they said on the radio today. Yeah, it's probably true. He seems like a nice guy, but he does seem like he's opinionated.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, that's okay, I could see that.

Jay Franze:

Opinions are good. Number five Morgan Wallen.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, I really like Morgan Wallen but I really am not impressed with his behavior. You know, I think oh, I don't think I told everybody you and the crew. I told you but not the crew I got the Morgan Wallen three record vinyl set I don't know how you say that for little miss hannah that worked okay.

Jay Franze:

Triple vinyl set don't get carried away now for hannah.

Tiffany Mason:

she's gonna go see morgan wallen in mi, miami, with my husband and yeah, it kind of pained me to give money to I don't know. I don't know how much more I want to say, but it pained me a little bit.

Jay Franze:

We're ruining the opinionation. Part of the show.

Tiffany Mason:

I said I would read a little bit more.

Jay Franze:

It says here the. Dangerous album broke every streaming record.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze:

So yeah, Don't surprise me.

Tiffany Mason:

He's a good singer. I mean I'll give it to him yeah, again, I like him and I kind of like his um, like, uh, redneck haircuts that he's always got like kind of kind of mullet ish.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, you know I'm a fan it's kind of like a half mullet it is, it's not. He doesn't fully commit doesn't fully commit in the front or the back. He's got a wave that comes down to at least his eyes.

Tiffany Mason:

Uh-huh yeah.

Jay Franze:

Apparently, we're giving fashion sense too. One more thing we just don't have the credentials to give opinions on, but you know, hey, why not?

Tiffany Mason:

Come here for the latest, greatest news and interviews.

Jay Franze:

And fashion sense. Number four I do believe this person belongs in the top ten. Still, I cannot stop saying it Garth Brooks and George Strait should be at the top of the list. I don't care which one of those you want to put in the number one slot, but they should both be one and two for sure. But number four is Eric Church.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, look at that. But number four is Eric Church.

Jay Franze:

Oh, look at that. Yeah, I like Eric Church and I think Eric Church might just be in the proper number.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze:

I think he's probably number four on the list.

Tiffany Mason:

What street cred are they giving him?

Jay Franze:

Well, let's see here. It says that everybody on this list has two things in common an original voice and something to say From there. It's just a matter of influence and innovation.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh okay.

Jay Franze:

Well, if everybody on the list has that, what makes them special? How do?

Tiffany Mason:

they decide Right.

Jay Franze:

It says that he's innovated in every album. That he has done, from the early songs straight through to the later.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, well, they're the authority. We're just simply bashing and criticizing, Criticizing. We are criticizing.

Jay Franze:

Number three, Toby Keith.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, hell yeah, yes, okay, I like Toby.

Jay Franze:

Keith. Oh, hell, yeah. Yes, okay, I like Toby Keith. I got nothing bad to say about the man and I think he deserves to be in the top 10 for sure.

Tiffany Mason:

Toby Keith has been on my mind in this list. I wondered if he was going to make it, and for me, a lot of it is his patriotism, yeah, so.

Jay Franze:

But he's one of those people that you could understand if he wasn't on the list. You could understand why he might not be, but I think he deserves to be all right number two chris stapleton most influential.

Tiffany Mason:

I mean, I know everybody like the minute that man came on the scene. Man, they were smitten.

Jay Franze:

They said he changed the landscape when he took the stage with Justin Timberlake in the 2015 CMA Awards. He killed bro country. There you go. That's his claim to fame. Is that he killed bro country you go.

Tiffany Mason:

That's it's his claim to fame. Is that he?

Tony Scott:

killed.

Jay Franze:

Pro country was um he on one of the shows american idol I don't know one of, oh, the country one wasn't on the country one if he was, I'm not aware of it he was on the people's sexiest man alive list now he was says it right there sexiest man alive list now he was. Says it right there 521 weeks after his release, he's still at number 13 on the billboard country album charts.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh wow that's amazing.

Jay Franze:

So, yes, I mean I think talent wise, he deserves to be on the list if this was a talent list. Yes, deserves to be on the list If this was a talent list.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, he should be on the list. It says he was not on any of the major singing shows.

Jay Franze:

If we ever get the opportunity to have Miss Billie Jo Jones come back on the show with us, I would like to talk to her. She just announced that she is going to be on the Road the show that you brought up.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, I was listening to your interview with her and she was talking, you know, very um circling around she was like, yes, I have a lot going on January through March.

Tony Scott:

January through.

Tiffany Mason:

March, I can't do anything. And you guys were definitely poking the bear trying to get her to admit it and I was like, wait a minute. I remember seeing she was on that show, the road and so, yeah, I think it debuts in September or something if I remember right.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, it's coming up, but she just made the announcement, so it's safe to say now.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

But I'm going to watch it now because of Billie.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, I'm definitely going to watch it. I was going to watch it to begin with. I was going to watch it before I had to.

Jay Franze:

I'm loyal to our guests, and that's Ms Billie George-Boss.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh burn.

Jay Franze:

All right number one.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, number one.

Jay Franze:

I do believe this man belongs on the list.

Tiffany Mason:

But not.

Jay Franze:

But not Number one Top ten. I would give him Mr Kenny Chesney.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, oh, hmm, that feels disappointing to me.

Jay Franze:

He seems to be hungry to make country music.

Tiffany Mason:

What the hell does that mean? I don't know.

Jay Franze:

Opening sentence of this article says Kenny Chesney seems to be hungry to make country music.

Tiffany Mason:

Huh. Each album is packed with original themes I will say we went to go see his one of his concerts and his stage set was amazing. I mean it had half of a half of a plane or a whole plane anyway.

Jay Franze:

I mean it was a prop, clearly, but it was very impressive the amount of work that went into his set for his concert I think, if we want to I mean, I think he's country music for sure, but we want to he's brought that whole beach feel into country music.

Tiffany Mason:

He's like the new Jimmy Buffett Right.

Jay Franze:

That's exactly what he is, I mean, but it's the Jimmy Buffett of country music. So I think that's an influence and it's a unique thing. I don't think there's anybody else doing anything like him. Again, I don't think he's the best singer in the world. He's good, if not best, friends with Tim McGraw, so I think maybe that's something they have in common that neither one of them are the best singers in the world. They just know how to spin it and make it work, which is a talent all within itself.

Tiffany Mason:

Anyway, there you go. Congratulations to those on the list Well, Jelly Roll and the Rock, I mean you guys.

Jay Franze:

I think I had a jelly roll for dessert tonight.

Tiffany Mason:

Not the same jelly roll, the rock, I mean you guys.

Jay Franze:

I guess these guys roll for dessert tonight, not the same jelly roll, not the same, I hope not sorry so that's okay.

Tiffany Mason:

So jelly roll and duane the rock johnson have been texting for almost a decade now. After phone calls and texting, they finally got to meet in person. Needless to say, it was a long time coming.

Jay Franze:

So he swiped right.

Tiffany Mason:

I was thinking, you know he's doing all these collaborations and I was like, okay, this is a different kind of collaboration. I don't want to know what kind of collaboration it is.

Jay Franze:

I don't want to know what kind of collaboration.

Tiffany Mason:

It is, they're friends, okay. Zach Topp we talked about him with Miss Scarlet. She was fun to have on the show he has. Well, he has. We know he's earned his first I Never Lie, which I love, that song. He's earned his first I Never Lie, sorry, his first number one hit with this song I Never Lie, there you go. I was so excited to say what I thought about the song.

Tiffany Mason:

The sentence structure wasn't wasn't we never claim to be the best at this job we just do it yes, well, he had an interview on taste of country nights and he spoke about how he and his music have evolved ever since topping the charts, which is kind of funny to me, or has me scratching my head because it hasn't been that long, no. So how much changed in the last six months or three months?

Jay Franze:

he's been around a little bit longer than that, I'm sure, but nonetheless he's. He's had a hell of an impact.

Tiffany Mason:

I never lie. The song hasn't yeah, and he's saying he's evolved Ever since his song has Chopped the charts.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, give him another six months. He'll be on that other list. Top 25 Most influential, he'll probably knock.

Tony Scott:

George.

Jay Franze:

Strait off the list, just saying I gotta see the butt Nice.

Tiffany Mason:

Does he too wear Wranglers? I'm sure he does.

Jay Franze:

Everybody in country music seems to. We went to the CMA Fest and every clothing booth there had Wranglers in it. It was like Western world.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I mean, given the landscape of where we were, it doesn't mean you have to follow every piece of it. Right, okay. Well, mr Jason Aldean, who was on our list. He is giving himself an ultimatum. He has tried golf and if he does not get better at it, he's just going to quit playing it altogether. So he's given himself six months.

Jay Franze:

If that's the case, he's going to quit, because I'll tell you. It takes forever to get better at golf, and six months is not enough time.

Tiffany Mason:

Right, I'll tell you what Mr Mason. He can hit that ball like 320 yards consistently. Oh, golf, okay, why didn't you just want to make sure? No, that sentence ends differently, like 320 yards consistently.

Jay Franze:

Oh, golf, okay. Why Do you just want to make sure, no.

Tiffany Mason:

That sentence ends differently, Jay, if we're talking about other things.

Jay Franze:

Enter Sandman.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know what you're talking about.

Jay Franze:

Neither do I.

Tiffany Mason:

I know you don't know what you're talking about.

Jay Franze:

Move it on, okay, okay.

Tony Scott:

Well, Mr Tim.

Tiffany Mason:

McGraw, who we what you're talking about. Move it on, okay, okay. Well, mr Tim McGraw, who we talked about, he's got a new look, he's got a new accessory on the date that he had with his wife, faith Hill, recently.

Jay Franze:

Oh, I thought there was going to be a new Faith Hill.

Tiffany Mason:

No, it was. Do you know?

Jay Franze:

I believe it was what we would call a walking stick.

Tiffany Mason:

It was also known as a cane, because I guess he had some back surgery.

Jay Franze:

He's got to be like the bionic man by now.

Tiffany Mason:

I was just going to say that you took the words out of my mouth.

Jay Franze:

I guess he's had a double knee, replacement rotator cuff and more he can't walk through the metal detectors at the airport anymore, but he's going to stick with his music career because he can't do anything else anymore, all right.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, the next story is mr morgan wallen, and he is helping christian singer ann wilson in her grief. Christian singer Ann Wilson is set to open for country hit maker Morgan Wallen during his I'm the Problem tour in July and August. Ooh, I wonder if Hannah's going to get to see her. Ooh, that's exciting. Okay, although this will be her first time performing with Wallen, her adoration for his artistry hits deep for Wilson. His music was what got her through her brother Jacob's passing. He was killed in a car accident in 2017. Oof, mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, no, that's just again sad. I don't like the sad stories.

Tony Scott:

I don't want you to have a sad song.

Tiffany Mason:

I know, I know I'm sorry. I don't want to make you sad, but you want me to lift your spirits.

Jay Franze:

Oh, please lift my spirits.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

I like that.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh my God. Okay, post Malone was in Glendale Arizona on June 21st for his big A stadium tour and he hit the local dive bar while he was there. I guess that he was generous again. We mentioned it around christmas time. I believe that he had given a waitress a very large generous tip and he has done it again, left a big tip for everyone to pay their bills. So nice. He's the man.

Jay Franze:

I'll give it to him Again. I don't necessarily know if he's the best singer in the world.

Tiffany Mason:

He's like collabing with other artists and he's collabing with, like, america. Post Malone should be on there for most influential because he has such a unique voice with the I don't know. What do you call it? What do you call a fast vibrato? You call that anything? Okay, we've got that really fast vibrato. And then he went from like, I guess, hip hop or R&B or something I don't know, and then he came over to country and then he's been doing all these collaborations and he, when he's in the bar, he'll just sit down and play with the people and he's giving these amazing tips to just everyday Americans. I mean, why wasn't Post Malone on that list, jeepers?

Jay Franze:

That's true, it just hasn't been enough time.

Tiffany Mason:

Excuse me, some people that were on there I know.

Jay Franze:

I agree with your theory. Excuse me Some people that were on there. I know I agree with your theory.

Tiffany Mason:

I'm just saying I mean, I think we need to write into those people who made that list, we do.

Jay Franze:

We need to do that.

Tiffany Mason:

I like that you said when you introduced it that you thought it was kind of funny. And it is kind of funny.

Jay Franze:

It is kind of funny.

Tony Scott:

Not. Ha-ha, funny Ha-ha.

Tiffany Mason:

No, it's like F-U funny.

Jay Franze:

Gotcha, according to the story, that the average person's bills are $5,000 per month. Oh and Post.

Tony Scott:

Malone left $70,000.

Jay Franze:

Wow.

Tiffany Mason:

For 15 people 15 employees got bills paid for one month $69,615.

Jay Franze:

Wow, that's pretty amazing. That, I say, at least puts him at the top of the nice guy list for sure.

Tiffany Mason:

Except for if we're in a dive bar. Did the bar fly also get his bills paid, or did his tab just get paid off? Did the lot lizard get her bills paid off?

Jay Franze:

I don't know you about it. He just essentially walked in. There's probably 15 employees working. He gave them all five grand each.

Tiffany Mason:

Lucky day that's the day I go buy my lottery ticket.

Jay Franze:

Nice.

Tiffany Mason:

I mean, I guess it feels like you already won the lottery, so maybe you would take it for granted. I'd try to double down. You know what I'm saying. Nice, okay, the lottery, so you maybe would take it for granted, but I'd try to double down, you know I'm saying okay. Well, mr willie nelson, he was on tour and they were hit by a storm june 29th. They were in missouri. Toppled trees, dumped heavy rain during the outlaw music festival. It wrecked the gear and it forced cancellation of willie n July 1st show in El Reno. Thankfully, nelson's beloved guitar Trigger was unharmed. Organizers issued refunds and confirmed the July 4th picnic in Austin will proceed as planned.

Tony Scott:

Alright.

Jay Franze:

Don't want to put any bad luck out there, but man, he's old to be still playing.

Tiffany Mason:

What did we say last week?

Jay Franze:

162 or something.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, I think that's what it was. Okay, so Beyonce was in the news.

Jay Franze:

Sorry, what? I don't quite know, if I heard you correctly.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay. Well, beyonce was in the news and if they have top 25 most influential women, she best be not on that list. Okay, that's all I've got to say. Okay, but the person who was on the news story was Gavin Adcock. He was criticizing Beyonce's Grammy winning album, cowboy Carter, and claiming that it ain't country and undermines longtime country artists. He later softened his tongue, expressing respect for her achievements and I thought this was so funny. Okay. So, however, this was copied and pasted into our document. Achievements is underlined in red. Like it's an error, and I laughed so hard inside my little heart. Right, her achievements. Laughable, but anyway, nice.

Jay Franze:

Nice.

Tiffany Mason:

No, she has done some good things and I did like her song, even though I don't know. It didn't feel country to me and there's still controversy.

Jay Franze:

She's one of the best singers in the world. I'll give it to her. And her music is fine. It's just not country music to me.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, yeah, well, I sent you the article. She actually was performing some songs from the cowboy carter album during her concert and she comes down on this car and she's got a harness on, thank god, because she's like in the middle of getting ready to start the song, or in the middle of the song, and all of a sudden she's like stop, stop, stop. Like the car is stuck midair, it's not coming down and she's just stuck there.

Jay Franze:

So it also started to tip.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze:

It was like the car was going to fall.

Tiffany Mason:

Which I never thought of it, but thank God that they do look out for the artist and she was in a harness. So worst case scenario, and she was in a harness.

Tiffany Mason:

So, worst case scenario, although I also thought about all those fans under that car, I was like, oh crap, I hope it's made out of styrofoam because, yeah, that was that was not good, all right. Well, mr shoozy, he is making a video for the song Home and he backed up traffic a little bit. So it says Shaboozy and Dallas rapper Big I don't know X the Plug released a visually striking new video for their single Home. It was shot in the Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge during peak rush hour. Why would you pick peak rush hour? Maybe because the sun is setting. Like what kind of a d-bag are you?

Tiffany Mason:

anyways, you wanted cars wanted it to look like it was traffic I guess the filming shut down the lanes and caused major gridlock, featuring shots of frustrated drivers, including newlywed couples, caught in the backup. Like what does it matter if a newlywed couple was like your newlyweds, make the best of it enters in man oh my gosh, I'm never gonna live that down. I'm never gonna live that down.

Jay Franze:

Nope, I will stop being honest no, no, that's the best part of this.

Tiffany Mason:

I know I'm the kind of person like if my mouth doesn't say it, my face will. So you would know if I was lying. I'm a terrible liar. I get really nervous to lie too.

Tiffany Mason:

You got to stop now Too many lefts that can be taken, Okay, Well, last thing to talk about is Darius Rucker. He is teasing a new album. Darius Rucker revealed plans for a new album inspired by his recent move to London. I almost like fell off my chair when I read that because I was like how are you going to be a Nashville artist but live in London? Anyway, he's going to be bringing a quote unquote different flavor to his music. He also is launching in 2025, a tour starting July 10th. He continues his ventures in the wine business. So was he on our list? He was on the list, right.

Jay Franze:

Yes.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, so when you mentioned that, I was thinking of Hootie and the Blowfish. Then he turns to country music. Now he's gone to London and he's putting a new flair on country, and he's also in the wine business.

Jay Franze:

Laying a few stakes out there.

Tiffany Mason:

I think so Give it to him. Good for him, diversifying his interests.

Jay Franze:

You mentioned the move to London and, right now, nashville. It's probably the most growing city in the country. Right now People are coming from California to avoid done all the taxes, but it's an entertainment place. A lot of the actors are moving to Tennessee and to the.

Tony Scott:

Nashville area and all that.

Jay Franze:

But what makes it funny to me is a lot of the country artists are now buying houses outside of Nashville.

Tony Scott:

I don't blame them.

Jay Franze:

I mean it is getting congested. I know I left because it was getting congested, and when I say congested, I'm not talking about a little bit, I'm talking about a massive amount of congestion. What used? To be a 10 minute drive to get yourself into downtown nashville is now 40 minutes to an hour yeah, it just becomes where it's just not worth it.

Tiffany Mason:

I mean that drive up to nashville when we got stuck in atlanta and I just thought like how does this ever happen? How, like you couldn't get enough roads. At one point there were seven lanes in just the direction I was going, so there were five or six on the other side to match and I thought, oh my gosh, there's so many, so many people here, so many cars, like I don't understand it. It was funny because we were in the traffic and then Hannah looks at me and she goes mom, what causes traffic? Because isn't everybody trying to do the same thing, like go the same direction or, you know, get to where they're going? And I said, yes, hannah, it's a very perplexing question that I think we've all had at some point, like we're all trying to go as fast as we can in the same direction. So how is it getting so backed up, or whatever? It's very frustrating.

Jay Franze:

Well, maybe because shibuzi is shibuzi's doing videos, stoplights, I mean. There's all sorts of issues, all right. Moving on question of the day.

Tiffany Mason:

Ooh, here we go.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, see, Now it's all about the men tonight, so maybe next week we can make it all about the women.

Tony Scott:

But who are as it should be. Yes, that's why we saved them for last. It's the best for last.

Jay Franze:

You are not going to disappoint me by saying women are better than men. I've been saying that my whole life, anyway.

Tiffany Mason:

Gosh, you're like the smartest man in the room. Yeah, tell that to my wife.

Jay Franze:

All right, who are the most underrated male vocalists in country music? Who are the most underrated, underrated, I'll say it again the most underrated male vocalists in country music.

Tiffany Mason:

Is it Yosemite, sam? I say, I say, I say, say that again.

Jay Franze:

We have taken a left. Chris says Joe Nichols. Okay, a smooth, classic tone, yet he never gets the credit that he deserves vocally.

Tiffany Mason:

I agree, starting off strong. Starting off strong, I like it. Thank you, chris. I agree, joe Nich. Strong. Starting off strong, I like it. That was a strong, thank you.

Jay Franze:

Chris, I agree. Joe Nichols Very good Jessica says. Gary Allen, that raspy emotional voice can break your heart in one line.

Tiffany Mason:

I will tell you Gary Allen is one of the few people that when his songs come on, I turn the channel.

Jay Franze:

Jessica, send your hate mail to Tiffany at JFrenzycom.

Tiffany Mason:

I still love you, Jessica.

Jay Franze:

Michael says Tracy Bird, a smooth traditional voice. He wasn't on that list, was he?

Tiffany Mason:

No, isn't that who I sent you the song.

Jay Franze:

Tracy Bird Watermelon Crawl. Samantha says Easton Corbin. Samantha says Easton Corbin Corbin, easton Corbin.

Tiffany Mason:

Easton Corbin.

Jay Franze:

I'll wait till you stop laughing at me, then I'll read her comment. He carries that great George Strait tone. See George Strait. The See George Strait. The comparison to George Strait.

Tiffany Mason:

Who should have been number one or two Number?

Jay Franze:

one or two.

Tiffany Mason:

I think one, because isn't he older than Garth Brooks, so maybe he had like some influence on Garth Brooks.

Jay Franze:

I'm sure that's probably the case. The only reason why I would say Garth Brooks is because he brought the world back to country music oh okay, country music was failing miserably until garth brooks came along and he single-handedly put that spotlight back on country music and it boomed like nobody's business now, I do love Friends in Low Places because it's my dad and I song.

Tiffany Mason:

But my really favorite Garth Brooks song is Standing Outside the Fire. I get so fired up hearing that song, yeah.

Jay Franze:

They both endless amounts of good songs out of those two.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Jay Franze:

All right, moving on. Robert, says Josh Turner.

Tiffany Mason:

Ooh yeah, Everyone says Josh Turner.

Jay Franze:

Ooh, yeah, Everyone knows the deep voice but his control and smoothness are truly world-class.

Tiffany Mason:

He does have a good, nice, thick, rich, full deep voice. Oh, thank you for finishing that sentence I always finish Jay, you're lucky, you're lucky.

Jay Franze:

My wife complains all the time. Landon says Rodney Atkins Okay.

Tiffany Mason:

I gotta look up something he sings. I don't know, nothing's coming to mind.

Jay Franze:

Amber says Daryl Worley.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yeah.

Jay Franze:

Deep, rich voice, powered with emotion.

Tiffany Mason:

I think he has good storylines.

Jay Franze:

Mason says Clay Walker. His vocal ability and tone are unmatched. Ava says Phil Vassar. I think that Ava is following instructions with most underrated, but anyways. Ava says phil vasser. Phil's vasser is an amazing songwriter, an amazing piano player and does not get the credit he deserves as a vocalist. I would say that for sure. She says he has an amazing range and warmth. All right, alright, nathan, I think you're wrong. But he says Kenny Chesney. I don't think Kenny Chesney's a vocalist.

Tiffany Mason:

I think he's just middle of the road.

Jay Franze:

I think his charisma is what gets him. I don't think it's his vocal talent. Olivia says Clint Black. I like Clint Black a lot.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

And you know who's out with Clint Black right now Andy Hall. Anyways you're.

Tiffany Mason:

I was going to say Andy Warhol and I knew that was wrong, but I knew I was so close, Andy Warhol.

Jay Franze:

He used to be out with your guy there.

Tiffany Mason:

Lee Greenwood Lee.

Jay Franze:

Greenwood. Lee Greenwood, yeah, but he's out with Clint Black right now Awesome. I would have liked to have seen him with Lee Greenwood, because his son was also out, I believe, playing guitar. At the same time, derek says Vince Gill oh, come on, underrated. I think everybody loves Vince Gill and another amazing guitar player.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yeah, I love that you know their additional talents, because I don't know Not all of their additional talents?

Jay Franze:

I don't know if they played piano, or Amy's not telling me about his talents. Yeah, finn Skill is awesome. He's a great singer and great guitar player. His guitar playing is right up there with Keith Urban.

Tiffany Mason:

I was just going to say Interesting.

Jay Franze:

Emily John Michael Montgomery. Man, that man's got a voice. Yeah, bradley says Tracy Lawrence, tl's Roadhouse. I was listening to TL's Roadhouse today. Tl's Roadhouse is a great, great show.

Tiffany Mason:

Do you know, ever since I told you I listened to Paint Me a Birmingham, I have to listen to it almost every day. I do not know what it is about that song, but I gotta keep listening to it, mr Tracy Lawrence.

Jay Franze:

Miss Dina says Aaron Lewis.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know, aaron Lewis.

Jay Franze:

Aaron Lewis, the lead singer of the band Stained, has moved over to the country, world Another raspy powerful voice, definitely heavy smoker. That adds to that, for sure.

Tiffany Mason:

Ooh, I like that sound.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, all right, let's see here, dave says John Prine.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know who that is.

Jay Franze:

You've got some homework to do now. Hunter says Scotty McCreary.

Tiffany Mason:

Love, scotty McCreary Love. Do you remember when he was on American Idol and he would do that weird thing with his head and they were telling him to fix it?

Tony Scott:

I don't remember that?

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yeah, he definitely finally fixed it, but he used to always do this like corny little thing with his head all the time and they were like no, I think Paula Abdul was on the show at the time and she was like no, you got to fix that. You got to look in the mirror when you're performing. You can't keep doing that I like him.

Jay Franze:

I like him a lot. I got to see him open up for brooks and dunn.

Tiffany Mason:

He did a great job I would love to see him lawrence's lee brice powerhouse vocals, raw emotion, completely underrated technically.

Jay Franze:

Completely underrated technically. I've had an opportunity to work with in the studio several times and I will tell you, the man can sing so definitely differently good.

Tiffany Mason:

Not only that, but he's also a great songwriter how much I'm envisioning going into the studio and somebody's going to record a song and I envision them, like you know, seeing the first three words and something gets screwed up. So then they start over again and they get the first 15 words right and then something happens and then they start over and they sing it again. So I feel like if I was working right, like I would want the, I would treat it like maybe a small concert for myself, right like a concert for one, and then I would be frustrated or disappointed that they had to keep starting the song over again. But then I would also be excited because, again, listening to Billy Joe's interview, she said that she from time to time can go in, sing it one time through and done. So how often is one and done? How often does that happen and how often does the scenario I was kind of explaining play out?

Jay Franze:

When I produce a record, the way I like to do it is I like the person to sing it from start to finish, no matter how good or bad, just sing it from start to finish and get in the groove.

Jay Franze:

Because if every time you stop a vocalist and say, all right, let's go ahead and try that one again, you're deflating them a little bit at a time.

Jay Franze:

So let the person sing it from start to finish and then go ahead and say, all right, let's go ahead and do it one more time. And I usually like to do three takes, and out of those three takes I'm going for the raw emotion of it all. So I then comp together those three, the three that were done from start to finish. So maybe you know and I also don't like to just replace a word I have and I will if it's needed, but what I would prefer to do is say, okay, on take two, the first verse as a whole was better, and then on take one, the chorus was good, and then you're mixing and matching whole sections at a time, so it sounds natural when you listen to it back. What you're running a risk of is, when you replace maybe just a word or two, that it doesn't fit in or doesn't sound the same, or it sounds out of place, or maybe even the wrong tone well, I'm thinking of podcast editing.

Tiffany Mason:

right, like if something goes wrong, I would prefer to replace the entire sentence, because when you replace one word, they can be like super excited one day, or the room tonality is different, and then they go in that second day and they say it and then you try to put it in there and it's like sticks out like a sore thumb.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, there's also lots of variables when a singer has to come back on a different day. So I like to just get the full performance out and then go ahead and do it two or three times. Tops that Matty McCree record I played for you.

Tony Scott:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

He recorded it from start to finish, twice Every song, and he nailed it, so I will give him credit.

Tiffany Mason:

Wow.

Jay Franze:

Alright, and credit to Lee Bryce. Alright, let's go ahead and start censoring. Luke says Joe Diffie. Brittany says Chris Young. I like Chris Young. Joe Diffie was great too. I forgot about Joe Diffie Brittany says Chris Young.

Tiffany Mason:

I like Chris Young. Joe Diffie was great too. I forgot about Joe Diffie, yeah.

Jay Franze:

Emily says Billy Dean.

Tiffany Mason:

Billy Dean Sean says John Barry.

Jay Franze:

That man's voice could stop traffic. Oh, maybe that's where the video is coming from Maybe John Barry knows Shabuzy. Get another vote for Tracy Bird. Paul says Tracy Bird. Melanie says Neil McCoy. Chad says Craig Morgan. Ooh, Craig Morgan.

Tiffany Mason:

I like Craig Morgan.

Jay Franze:

One of my students went out and became his engineer. Oh, wow. I listened to God's Country today God's Country podcast and they did an interview with Craig Morgan and that man just earned all the respect in the world out of me from that interview.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze:

He just seemed like just a nice guy. They barely talked about music at all.

Tiffany Mason:

It was just hunting and everything else that they do yeah, playing video games, stupid stuff but he just, he's just a down-to-earth person so I know that, like you, could be the worst person and sing like the coolest song or the most meaningful song or whatever right. So it's not necessarily a direct reflection of the artist, but I do love that's what I love about Sundays and he sings that.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, another vote for Phil Vassar by Tyler Dylan says Wade Hayes. Rebecca says Aaron Tippin.

Tony Scott:

Hmm.

Jay Franze:

All right, let's see if we can end on a strong one. Mike says Daryl Singletary. Didn't we already say him? Oh, here's one.

Tony Scott:

We're going to end on this strong one, mike says Daryl Singletary.

Jay Franze:

Didn't we already say him? Oh, here's one. We're going to end on this one.

Tiffany Mason:

Lacey says That'll be good.

Jay Franze:

Zane Williams.

Tiffany Mason:

Jay, you got some splainin' to do, you've got some splainin' to do.

Jay Franze:

You don't know, zane Williams, zane Williams. I met him a long time ago, when he was just starting, but he's very, very good, very good songwriter, very good performer, very good singer. Check him out. Give you a little bit more homework to do.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay. Well, styx is gearing up to release their 18th album, Circling From Above, on July 18th, marking the band's continued creative surge.

Jay Franze:

I like Styx. I've always liked Styx. Too much time continued creative search I like Styx. I've always liked Styx. Too much time on my hands, I like Styx too.

Tiffany Mason:

And this lady the other day. We have like a little curb alert thing. I don't know if you have that in your area, but they're called curb alerts here. Everybody puts their crap out. You can drive by their house and pick it up. And she had Queen and sticks and the post.

Tiffany Mason:

Normally, like within the first half hour, somebody will claim the items, right, this was like nine minutes and I was like, oh, I want those vinyls. And I sent her like a private message and I was like I can be there at 10 30 today, this is like nine o'clock. So it wasn't. It wasn't like it was gonna take me very long and so usually like if you can pick up fast, that's, that's the seals, the deal. I was like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, she's like sorry, they're already um claimed. And I thought, yeah, right, one of your friends text you and said give me those records. I was so bummed. I was like, oh, sticks and queen. Like oh, I just thought it was my lucky day, but it wasn't it wasn't, it wasn't sticks great band, nonetheless all right.

Tiffany Mason:

Deftones teased their 10th album private music during a london show, displaying visuals hinting at a july 10th release. Much speculation is building around this surprise debut.

Jay Franze:

Never been the biggest Deftones fan, but my daughter.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know them.

Jay Franze:

My daughter Bella, for some reason loves them.

Tiffany Mason:

Bella's cooler than me. She knows more music than me, probably because you're her dad, but I think Bella's cooler than me.

Jay Franze:

I'm not introducing her to these bands.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh. She found that on Reddit she is cooler than you, then she is definitely cooler than me.

Jay Franze:

We went to an actual physical record store the other day and we went through and she was pointing out bands and she's like, oh, I like this one, or here's a good one. And I'm like, really, how do you know these people?

Tiffany Mason:

I mean, unless they're playing songs on TikTok. How do you know these people? I was just going to say I feel like they get a lot of exposure from TikTok and TikTok. I just have so much social media already begging for my attention to add one more platform. I don't have it in me.

Jay Franze:

I just don't have it in me. Tiktok's addictive. I'll tell you that. Yeah, I just I can't.

Tiffany Mason:

I'll tell you that, yeah, I just I can't. I don't have the time for it. I have a lot of time for TV. You know you have no time for TV it's probably because you make a lot of time for TikTok. I got no time for TikTok.

Jay Franze:

No, uh-uh, I do social media once a day.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh.

Jay Franze:

That's when I go to bed. When my day is over and I go to bed, I spend about an hour doing my social media and then I can't do it. I've got too many things all day long. My wife works me to death. I'm telling you, she works me to death. She wants me to go out and make money. She says something about she likes to eat. I don't know what that means.

Tiffany Mason:

Demanding wife yeah, all right, food fighters, food. I think I said yeah.

Jay Franze:

All right, food fighters, food I think I said food, food fighters. My wife is a food fighter and she wins. Oh my gosh, she's the heavyweight champion. Okay, I think she's at 300 pounds now, I don't know.

Tiffany Mason:

No, she is. She's not Foo Fighters. Come full circle with today's song to mark 30th anniversary.

Jay Franze:

What song is it?

Tiffany Mason:

Full circle with today's song.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, but what song is it? Is it going to be a different one tomorrow? I don't know this song is called Today's. Song.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze:

Foo Fighters that's another one. My daughter loves Foo Fighters. That's the only one out of all the bands she seems to like that I can get behind. The rest of them I can appreciate in like Deftones and stuff. I can appreciate that stuff. It just doesn't do anything for me. But Foo Fighters yeah, that started into my world.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, just for everybody who's listening. So the way I read that sentence was very poor. And it's saying that that song is marking their 30th anniversary, but the word Mark has a capital letter on it. So that is what confused me marking their 30th anniversary, but the word Mark has a capital letter on it, so that is what confused me.

Tiffany Mason:

You feel like you have to explain yourself. No, no, I wanted them to walk away understanding what the heck I was talking about, because I basically just said all the words that were there, but not in any sentence form that made any sense. So I looked at it again while you were talking was like what did I just do there? And it is because the m has a capital, so it threw me off, but it is marking their 30th anniversary there you go that one slipped by.

Tiffany Mason:

That one got past me. All right. Judas priest has released a powerful new cover of war pigs as a tribute to their friends in black sabbath nice you gotta speak to this because I ain't got nothing here black sabbath, the original band that invented heavy metal.

Jay Franze:

War pigs Pigs was their big song, one of their big songs, and they not only created the heavy metal sound, but part of the sound came from the guitar player cut off a piece of his finger so he still played guitar, but when it came to holding the strings down, it hurt. So, he had to loosen the strings up and it was very dark and ominous sounding. So that's how all that started.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh interesting.

Jay Franze:

They get Ozzy Osbourne and they're doing that last hurrah. The band is getting together for the last time and that will support Ozzy Osbourne's documentary that's coming out. Oh, so there's a lot to tie in there.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, wow, jam-packed in that one little sentence.

Tony Scott:

There you go.

Tiffany Mason:

Jeepers. Okay, big J Oakerson, that's who you went to go see, is that correct?

Jay Franze:

That is correct, he is awesome.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, his crowd work has a storied history. As a part of the standup scene, it's always been a way to engage with the crowd in a fun way where they will know that moment is unique to that set. I think that is what makes crowd work so fun is knowing that like it's not rehearsed. I guess it's kind of like improv, although I hate improv, but it's kind of like improv but much funnier.

Jay Franze:

Oh yeah, and he is the master. He is awesome. I know Matt Reif gets a lot of credit for crowd work, but I've seen both of them. I will tell you, hands down, big Jay is just leaps and bounds better at this point. They both can do the entire show of just crowd work.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

But Big Jay doesn't miss. He just doesn't miss. He's really really good at and he's got a lot of experience. We talked about the experience of Matt Rife. He's, you know, in a few more years that man will be. I mean, he's great now, but in a few more years, when he has the experience behind him. Yeah, he's going to be, he's just going to be unstoppable.

Jay Franze:

But Big Jay's already at the unstoppable point. Now, whether or not you like his humor is a different story. I mean it's, it's pretty, pretty bad but I love it, raunchy or dark. Raunchy, yeah, or dark, yeah, it just depends on the crowd, because what happens a lot is, it starts by him singling somebody out in the crowd and talking to them.

Tiffany Mason:

Sure.

Jay Franze:

What do you do for a living or that type of thing? And when you come up with whatever you do. He's got to think off of that. So it could quickly go either raunchy or dark. When it goes. It's not like a gradual transition. Just right, right to the point I mean the very the opening comments could be the darkest or raunchiest thing you've heard. So, like when I saw him, the very first person he singled out was this girl with huge boobs, oh yeah.

Jay Franze:

But it was because her husband had a shirt that said I love boobs, right? So the whole said I love boobs Right. So the whole conversation started off about boobs.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, and I mean, he was playing his cards, right. Right, he got to talk to the hot chick in the room and, you know, made his money, so good for him it was very good Very very good. No opportunity missed there, you go.

Jay Franze:

But yeah, I'm a big fan of his. I watch all of his video clips Definitely a big fan. I watch them over and over sometimes because they pop up in your feed over and over again.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, and you're like I don't know it's Big Jay, it's going to be funny.

Jay Franze:

It's funny again. I saw it last night, but it's funny again tonight.

Tiffany Mason:

I get it so like you're Jay, and that's big J.

Jay Franze:

Okay, I'm definitely not big J, my wife will tell you that.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh my gosh. It's good to know your place in this world. Do you remember when I told you sometimes what you say reminds me of my dad no yeah that was it right there that's my goal is to remind women of their dad.

Jay Franze:

I look for the ones with with daddy issues. Moving on, let's move on. Oh, recommendations, let's move on to recommendations. All right. This is the point of the show where we punch the microphone. This is the point of the show where we recommend music to one another and see if we can open each other's eyes to some new music. We mentioned no Apology a few weeks back out of the Ukraine. And then we talked about Halocene the following week, also a great band, great singer, also beautiful.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know. She's like tacky 90s, tacky 80s.

Jay Franze:

Oh yeah, she goes overboard with makeup and all that stuff.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, yeah, the chick from no Ap. She's a smoke show she is awesome.

Jay Franze:

She's awesome. She reminds me of those emails. I get the junk mail that says would you like a bride from the ukraine or whatever, and she has all these beautiful women this girl is beautiful.

Tiffany Mason:

That's weird. I don't get emails like that, Jay.

Jay Franze:

That's because your name starts with Tiffany.

Tiffany Mason:

Sure does You're not wrong.

Jay Franze:

Anyways, we talked about those two bands and we talked about them individually, and now we're going to talk about a collaboration of the two of them coming together and doing a collab of motley crew.

Tiffany Mason:

kickstart my heart I would just like to know how, like you know, they're dming each other on social media and then they like email back and forth their pen pals and they're writing about how they love each other's music, and then I would love to know who was like. And then I would love to know who was like, you know, I would love to know how that came about, the conversation, and, okay, I'm going to do this part, I'm going to do this part. And there's not really like a cohesiveness between their looks per se, you know. So I mean, their voices are very, very similar and mesh. Well, that's what it's like.

Jay Franze:

It's like a mashup it's a blonde and a brunette that's a mashup.

Tiffany Mason:

I love a mashup video is fantastic.

Jay Franze:

Yes, their voices complement each other very well the girl from no apology out of the ukraine. There is got an extremely powerful voice. It's a lower voice, lower register. She has a harder time pronouncing the English words where the girl from Halle Seen is amazing singer, but she's very clear. She enunciates very well.

Tiffany Mason:

Better than I do Of enunciation. There you go. No, I just think it's really cool that you brought that to our attention. I think it's cool that they're from different countries and somehow they connected and they made this awesome music video. And no, I think it's great, I think it's awesome.

Jay Franze:

All right, what would you like to recommend, my friend?

Tiffany Mason:

I would like to recommend Bottle Rockets by Scotty McCreary. We were talking about him earlier. Like the words of the song are um, you know, these two kids are out and um, he's talking about the waves in the moonlight and cold beer in the can, her kissing him and then she makes him pull out his guitar and sing. But then it's hootie and the blowfish. Oh my hand, anyway, I just loved it so much and I was like, oh my gosh, that's really cool that darius rucker did a collaboration but he sang his old stuff. It's just like such a great summer song. It's these two kids falling in love and then like, come on, I want you to hold my hand. Oh, I just love it so much anyways, and I did not love hootie and the blowfish because darius rucker was always like no enunciation and that was my beef with with him as hootie and the blowfish, whereas as a country singer.

Tiffany Mason:

As a country singer, I feel like he has more enunciation all right, my friend.

Jay Franze:

What is going on with you this week?

Tiffany Mason:

This was a big week, Jay. Do you know what happened on Tuesday?

Jay Franze:

Tuesday was yesterday.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh my God, it was only yesterday.

Jay Franze:

What happened yesterday?

Tiffany Mason:

Oh my, God, my days are feeling so extremely long, oh my gosh. Okay, yesterday, my girlfriend and I, donna, we run a networking group called Bond and Beyond Networking and we launch a new podcast and it is called the Link of Lounge and it's all about networking. So I am a little bit more polished on that podcast and I actually get the words right and complete thoughts. If you want to see another side of me or hear another side of me, you can go on there and you can get more confident about networking and ideas for networking, for swingers.

Jay Franze:

Nope, nope that's not link up lounge the link up lounge.

Tiffany Mason:

It is the links that make you stronger connecting business one link at a time no swingers no, swingers, nope.

Tiffany Mason:

And then on top of that, so last month I think we were all I have I have a game night every once in a while and my girlfriends were over and we're having this little game night. It's not on the yacht, it's in my little tiny house. And, um, and my friends came over and I was talking about how 10 000 square feet, and I was talking about how Hannah wanted to pierce her cartilage and my girlfriend was like, oh, I can do that. And I was like sweet, and she's my best friend. So I was like, well, I mean, I trust you, I'm one of those people. It's like that sounds like a terrible idea. What time should I be ready? I'm that person. So I was like sweet, so come over. So she's like, okay.

Tiffany Mason:

So we were recording one of our episodes and I was like, hey, when do you want to do it? And she said, well, if we do it on the 4th of July, then her ear will be sore. And I'm like, well, she's going to see Morgan Wallen on the 11th and these are all first world problems, right? And so we're trying to figure. And I was like, yeah, okay. So I and Hannah got our. It's called your helix. I got my helix pierced, so I am officially lopsided. I got three holes on one side of my head and two on the other, so there's a very exciting. It's been a very exciting week and I can't believe we're only on Wednesday.

Jay Franze:

My daughter has her helix.

Tiffany Mason:

Is that right? See, she's cooler than me, dang it.

Jay Franze:

I don't know if she's cooler than you. It's hard to beat you.

Tiffany Mason:

Thank you, Jay. Wow, you are a good friend. Thank you. What is going on in your world, Jay?

Jay Franze:

Well, thank you for asking.

Tiffany Mason:

I would be remiss if I didn't ask you, jay, what's going on in your world. I don't know if you'd be remiss, or if you'd be. Fired, goodbye.

Jay Franze:

Two days ago, because my week is not quite like yours, but two days ago, Monday, I spoke to Stephanie Ravis. That's what I said, Stephanie Ravis.

Tiffany Mason:

How the heck did I miss that?

Jay Franze:

Because you don't keep up.

Tiffany Mason:

I'm saying I'm mad at myself. The door's always open. Always open. I know, know I'm mad at myself you should be wait, we should share with them. Last week, I think it was, I was thinking our interview date was the monday date and I was like oh, I'm gonna join you tonight. And jay was like I hope so, because it's wednesday. I was like oh crap yes, well, you missed monday well, I tried to be on top of clearly failed stephanie rabus was amazing.

Jay Franze:

She did a great job. She was a little nervous because it was her first interview, but she did great it was a great interview and she absolutely amazing when I tell you a amazing singer, this girl is an amazing singer and the sophistication in her songwriting is out of this world. So she sings songs that are memorable and easy to sing along with, but they're not predictable.

Tiffany Mason:

Love that, yes. Throw me a curve ball, god. I love that, yes, and she is. I love when I'm singing along and I'm like, oh, they got me.

Jay Franze:

Yes, and some of them are like touching enough to to jerk a tear out of you if you're not paying attention. So definitely check out the episode when it comes out on Monday and you know if you have an opportunity Tiffany's crying over there right now and if you have the opportunity to check out our music between that's the only thing getting jerked around here, anyways.

Tiffany Mason:

so if you have the opportunity to check, out our music between now and Monday no, your audience. That's the problem I can't say crap like that.

Jay Franze:

I know the audience. That's the problem.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh my gosh. Okay, Stephanie.

Jay Franze:

Ravis Monday night.

Tiffany Mason:

Sorry, stephanie, on Monday. I'm spurring up your spotlight.

Jay Franze:

Amazing singer, Great songs. Check out her music between now and then and I promise you you will not be disappointed. Stephanie Ravis then, and I promise you you will not be disappointed. Stephanie ravis her dad reached out and said thank you for such an amazing interview and for taking care of his daughter.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, that's sweet.

Jay Franze:

I would expect that out of you if somebody interviewed your daughter absolutely hands down yeah, yeah, mr mason is not like that doesn't care yeah, I get it doesn't care about his kids, I care about his wife he really cares about his kid, he really cares about his wife, but damn, I don't think I thought I was onto something, I mean he is in my phone as prince charming, so he is in my phone as prince charming as well.

Jay Franze:

the only problem is he never calls me. One day he's going to call and that picture's going to come up. It's going to make my day, but until then, he's my future best friend. All right. And then, oh my daughter, we went away to Sandusky Ohio, the beautiful city of Sandusky Ohio. It's actually not bad. It's an old what I would say is an old beach town. But there is a beach, but it's on Lake Erie.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

And our hotel, we stayed at this resort that was literally right on the water, so in our window and faced the water.

Tiffany Mason:

So cool it was very nice.

Jay Franze:

It was like a little porthole window. It wasn't a square window, it was round and it was very nautical themed and all that fun stuff. But we were there because of my daughter's dance competition Nationals the Super Bowl of her dance season. Yes season and she was in four dances and got platinum plus on all four dances talk about jerk jerk hey, that's my daughter here I was gonna say talk about jerking a tear out of you. Thank you for finishing that sentence.

Tiffany Mason:

You always say that you would hand over your man card. Yes, you can take my man card.

Jay Franze:

I shed a tear or six.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know. I mean, is it getting rid of your man card? I think that that makes you double platinum or something.

Jay Franze:

It makes you diamond certified. I'll take some credit. Yeah, I earned my man card by showing my feelings. It makes you diamond certified. I'll take some credit. Yeah See, I earned my man card by showing my feelings.

Tiffany Mason:

It's true, it's true, I'll take this Because you love your kid and you're very proud and you're overcome with emotion.

Jay Franze:

Wait, which kid are we talking?

Tiffany Mason:

about. Okay yeah, lucy, I love that one.

Jay Franze:

Okay, I just want to make sure we're good for a kid? Yes, I love all my kids, but Lucy, it was her weekend and her week and she got platinum plus on all four dances. She was even invited for two of the four to go to what they called the big show and they took all of the bests in shows and competed them against each other. So she got platinum plus on her four, got to go to the big show with two of them and those two both of them she came in third place.

Tiffany Mason:

That's amazing.

Jay Franze:

Third place out of the country. And she's only 10, right, she's 10 years old and she's competing with like 18 year olds. Yeah, uh-huh, she's a natural, I will give it to her. The pictures are online if anybody wants to check them out. The girl is expressive. I mean, she's just the face and stuff.

Tiffany Mason:

I mean, your wife must have amazing genes, yeah.

Jay Franze:

I can leave eyes. I don't think they're amazing. I mean they look better on the floor.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, no, it never works out that way.

Tiffany Mason:

No, she gets the looks from me. I feel like you guys were.

Jay Franze:

Gets the talent from me the talent Okay. No, okay, no, I get it. No, maybe it is something to do with the wife.

Tiffany Mason:

If you're going to lie, you should have it be something believable.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, yeah, that makes more sense.

Tiffany Mason:

You guys were there a long time. That feels like too long. Yeah, a week is too long.

Jay Franze:

And the problem is with the big show thing, them winning the big show. The competition was through Thursday and then if you get to the big show you get to go on Friday and if you won again you get to go Saturday. She got both of those days.

Tony Scott:

So, I left.

Jay Franze:

I left on Friday. I took Bella back home the eldest, she wanted to spend some time with some of her friends and stuff like that. So and what really sucked about the whole thing? I mean I'm glad we got to go on vacation, glad we get to go with the kid, glad we get to see her perform and all that fun stuff. Get to go on vacation, glad we get to go with the cake, glad we get to see her perform and all that fun stuff. Great yeah.

Jay Franze:

But cersei was in town playing and I missed it, my understanding, the first time playing in this area. Oh, almost got back in time that sucks if they played on Saturday night I would have been all set, but they played on Friday night.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh.

Tony Scott:

I'm sorry for you.

Jay Franze:

I called them up I said hey, if you're in town I'd love to take you to dinner or whatever. They said they were driving in that day so they wouldn't be available for dinner but they'd be available after the show or talk or whatever. I probably could have made it for that part, but I would have missed the show or talk or whatever hangout I I probably could have made it for that part, but I would have missed the show itself.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, because we, it's only it was only a four hour drive from where we were, but by the time I we drove back and then got my kids situated and with her friends or whatever she was doing, and it would have been too late yeah, yeah. So, I missed it.

Tony Scott:

That's too bad yeah. All right, busy being a daddy.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, uh-huh, all right. Well, let's land this plane.

Tiffany Mason:

All right.

Jay Franze:

At least it's not a crash landing tonight.

Tony Scott:

Rough landing, but maybe not a crash, all right.

Jay Franze:

Well, we have done it. We have reached the top of the hour, hour number two, which does mean we have reached the end of the show, and if you've enjoyed the show, we would appreciate it if you would tell a friend. And if you have not Miss Tiffany.

Tiffany Mason:

Tell two.

Jay Franze:

Tell two of them, six of them.

Tiffany Mason:

whatever you want to do, you can reach out to both of us over at jfrenzycom, where you'll also find links to our socials and anything else you might need. Ms Tiffany, my friend, you got any final words for us? Yes, sir, you bring the vibe, we'll bring the volume and we'll see you next time.

Jay Franze:

Fair enough On that note have a good night.

Tony Scott:

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