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Most Important Women In Country Music, Underrated Female Vocalists, and Country Music News

• Jay Franze / Tiffany Mason • Episode 152

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What makes a country music legend truly important? Is it chart success, cultural impact, or lasting influence? Jay Franze and Tiffany Mason tackle these questions head-on while reviewing a controversial list of "The 25 Most Important Women in Country Music" that has them both fired up from the start.

The hosts share their predictions before diving into the rankings, confidently naming Dolly Parton and Reba McEntire as the obvious choices for the top spots. What follows is a passionate dissection of the list that places newer artists higher than established legends, sparking genuine outrage when they discover Dolly Parton ranks only seventh while Carrie Underwood claims the number one position.

"Where's her amusement park? Where's her giving back kids books that can't afford books? Where's her charity programs?" Tiffany questions, highlighting how the list seems to prioritize recent commercial success over decades of cultural impact and philanthropy. The conversation reveals a deeper issue about how female artists are evaluated in country music and the often arbitrary nature of industry rankings.

Between their good-natured banter, the hosts also cover breaking news from Nashville, including Morgan Wallen's youth charity work, an exciting potential Miranda Lambert and Chris Stapleton collaboration, and Australia's growing country music scene. They wrap up with listener submissions about the most underrated female vocalists, creating a show that celebrates women in country music while questioning who gets to determine their "importance."

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Tony Scott:

Welcome to The Jay Franze Show, a behind-the-curtain look at the entertainment industry, with insights you can't pay for and stories you've never heard. Now here's your host, Jay Franzee.

Jay Franze:

And we are coming at you live. I am Jay Franzee and with me tonight the Piggy to my Kermit, my beautiful co-host, Miss Tiffany Mason. I knew I wasn't going to get out of that one. If you are new to the show, this is your source for the latest news, reviews and interviews. So if you would like to join in comment or fire off any questions? Please head over to jayfranze. com. All right, my friend, before we get started, my friend, friend.

Tiffany Mason:

We're still friends Before we get started.

Jay Franze:

Let me tell you about the question of the day. Last week, we talked about the most underrated men vocalists. This week, we're going to talk about the most underrated female vocalists. So who are some of the most underrated female vocalists? Who are some of the most underrated female vocalists.

Jay Franze:

Save them, miss Tiffany. Save them. If you would like to participate in our little reindeer games, go ahead and put your responses in the comment section and we will read them off a little later in the show. All right, so last week we started off with an article that was titled the most important men in country music and I had made a joke that we should do the most important women in country music this week. And I kid you not. As I was scrolling through the internet and I was looking at articles, the page refreshed and up came an article called the 25 Most Important Women in Country Music. So I took that as a sign, and tonight we are going to start off with the 25 Most Important Women in Country Music, and hopefully this list won't piss me off like the one did last week.

Tiffany Mason:

I like it.

Jay Franze:

Alright well.

Tiffany Mason:

Now is this list the same way, where you cannot see the order did last week.

Jay Franze:

I like it.

Tiffany Mason:

All right. Well, Now is this list.

Jay Franze:

the same way where you cannot see the order it is. Oh, I'm going to tell you right now.

Tiffany Mason:

I'm prepared to be pissed off, and do you have a couple of women in mind?

Jay Franze:

Yes, Do I have a couple of women in mind? For what my friend?

Tiffany Mason:

That should be at the top of the list and will rile you up in the event that they are not.

Jay Franze:

Yes, absolutely, because I know last week.

Tiffany Mason:

Garth Brooks and George Strait got you wound a little tightly.

Jay Franze:

Yes, let's see Reba. Reba should be probably number one on that list. If. I'm just shooting from the hip. I would say Reba. I wouldn't say Taylor Swift because she kind of abandoned country early. If she was still in country music and as successful as she is, I would say she should be up there.

Tiffany Mason:

What about Dolly?

Jay Franze:

Dolly for sure. Hands down, there you go. Great call. I would say Dolly and Reba should be fighting it out for first and second. Shania Twain should be in the top 10. I mean, not only is she an amazing singer, an amazing country artist, but she similar to Garth Brooks. She shined a new light on country music. So, and brought in kind of that pop feel to it.

Tiffany Mason:

Uh-huh.

Jay Franze:

Okay, and her and her husband created an entirely new way of doing country music, her husband being Mutt Lang, her producer.

Tiffany Mason:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

So, yes, I'm prepared to be pissed. I mean.

Tiffany Mason:

I can see 25 already. All right, well, as long as you're in the right mind frame and it's already frustrating me. Oh gosh, Okay, well, let us join you. Okay 25 should be in the top 10 for sure, but 25 is Miss Leanne Rimes. Oh, wow, okay, I feel you. Oh, you know who else should be on this list is Carrie Underwood.

Jay Franze:

Yes, yes.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, okay.

Jay Franze:

I don't know where we'd put Carrie Underwood. I wouldn't be disappointed if she was in the top 15.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh my gosh, that's so funny. I had 15 in my head. Yeah, only because there's so many amazing women.

Jay Franze:

You know country artists.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, I know, but again the past 25 years. I thought you were just going to say amazing women. Well, maybe I'm married, I know I'm in that category, so yeah, of course, you are 24, cam. Okay.

Jay Franze:

No, I don't believe so.

Tiffany Mason:

That's going to be a no, it says on paper it looks like Cam is a one-hit wonder. Yeah. So what does it say after that sentence?

Jay Franze:

But label ignores her albums in Innovation.

Tiffany Mason:

Huh.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, no.

Tiffany Mason:

Let's go to 23 23, Faith Hill. Hmm, she was around that Shania Twain era, yeah, so I would say like Both of them are smoking hot, so they brought some attention to the country music scene, and then I don't really know what she's done in combination with Tim McGraw, but I don't know.

Jay Franze:

I think she belongs on the list for sure. 22. Is it Maren or Maren Morris? Maren Morris.

Tiffany Mason:

Marin Morris.

Jay Franze:

Marin Morris.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know why she's on there, but I love me some, marin Morris.

Jay Franze:

I don't know who she is, obviously.

Tiffany Mason:

She sings my Church. This is my church. She's got quite a few hits that were on the radio. You would know them.

Jay Franze:

It says that it's going to take a few more years for us to figure out what her legacy is going to be. However, her first five years, they believed she'd be the future of country music. I don't know.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't know what. Okay, we'll see that play out 21, Ashley McBride.

Jay Franze:

I mean, why would she be before Faith Hill?

Tiffany Mason:

Do you think maybe they put younger names on here to attract people looking at it?

Jay Franze:

I'm sure there's. I mean, I believe some of the younger names belong on the list, and rightfully so number 21,. I think they belong on this portion of the list, but I don't think faith hill would. I don't think. Yeah, she comes before faith hill yeah oh, number 20 is one of my favorite and disappoints me that it's number 20, sarah evans oh, very good voice, yeah I worked in a mastering studio for a while and they did all of Sarah Evans' records, but I did not work on any of them.

Tiffany Mason:

You just got to see her from afar.

Jay Franze:

It was very disappointing. I would have liked to have worked on one of her projects, but I did not, so let's move on. See, here we go again. Number 19, leanne Womack.

Tiffany Mason:

Hmm. She should be further up on the list, did she sing Strawberry Wine?

Jay Franze:

I Hope you Dance.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, yes, no.

Jay Franze:

Strawberry Wine was that other girl, I forget her name.

Tiffany Mason:

Something Carter.

Jay Franze:

Yes, Dina Carter.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, okay.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, she sings. I Hope you Dance.

Tiffany Mason:

That was a really good song, it was an amazing song.

Jay Franze:

yes, Maddie and Tay, number 18.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I could see this because they kind of attracted a couple years younger than me to country music, whereas Shania Twain and Faith Hill did that in the late 80s 80s 80s 90s 90s 90s. That's what I said, yeah.

Jay Franze:

I don't think they should be ahead of Faith Hill or Leigh-Anne Womack or Sarah Evans, for that matter.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Another artist I don't know. I'll need your help. Number 17 goes to Mickey Guyton. I'll need your help. Number 17 goes to Mickey Guyton.

Tiffany Mason:

I will need your help. We will need the crew's help On this one, if you know who Mickey Guyton is.

Jay Franze:

Please chime in.

Tiffany Mason:

Please Edge McAdams.

Jay Franze:

She is the most influential Black country singer in America.

Tiffany Mason:

So influential that nobody knows about her.

Jay Franze:

Look at that, hmm, doesn't say, a song that she has sung. But I would like to know How's it?

Tiffany Mason:

spelled Mickey like M-I-K-I, m-i-k-k-e-y, m-i-c-k-e-y?

Jay Franze:

M-I-C-K-E-Y.

Tiffany Mason:

How do you spell of last name?

Jay Franze:

G-U-Y-T-O-N. G-u-y-t-o-n.

Tiffany Mason:

I feel like you are trying to say it like mouse still.

Jay Franze:

G-U-Y-T-O-N.

Tiffany Mason:

G-U-Y-T-O-N. G-u-y-t-o-n. Mickey Guyton she sings. G-u-i-t-o-n. Nikki Guyton. She sings. Make it On Me Better Than you. Left Me Either way.

Jay Franze:

I don't know her. I don't know who she is. I don't believe she belongs on this list.

Tiffany Mason:

And not before Faith Hill, if we don't even know who she is.

Jay Franze:

Nikki, I'm sorry You've been removed. Number 16, kelsey Ballerini. She belongs on the list 16, probably a good spot for her In front of Faith Hill or Sarah Evans. No, I mean, in due time I think she should be on that list, but not yet. Number 15, Carly Pierce.

Jay Franze:

Oh, okay, Another one I think, in due time, she should move up on this list. Oh Okay, another one. I think in due time she should move up on this list. Yep, but as of right now, she's probably in a good spot. That, to me, from 15 to 25, is where all of the newer artists should be.

Tiffany Mason:

Agreed. Also, maybe one could argue that there's more competition now because of social media. So I don't know, I don't know how to feel about it. I still feel like the OGs should be higher up on the list, though.

Jay Franze:

Number 14. Shania Twain. Oh she belongs top 10, probably top five.

Tiffany Mason:

I don't see your blood boiling, but I do see frustration, yeah definitely frustrated.

Jay Franze:

I mean she's got diamond releases.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I mean no, she brought people back to country music. She created a whole new genre of country music. You know more of that pop style. No, she belongs higher on the list in my opinion.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, fair enough.

Jay Franze:

Number 13 doesn't even belong on the list because it's not a country artist. It's Brandi Carlile who wants to be. Oh, I mean I like her.

Tiffany Mason:

Are we going to just stop the list if Beyonce's on it?

Jay Franze:

Beyonce will not be on this list. I'm stating that right now. She will not be on this list. Brandi Carlile, I mean, does she belong on a country list?

Tiffany Mason:

I don't think so.

Jay Franze:

It's interesting that they're trying to swing it that way. Number 12, Trisha Yearwood she belongs in the top 10.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yeah, especially then she went and snagged Garth Brooks. Come on, give the girl some credit.

Jay Franze:

That's another relationship that's always had a little controversy behind it. Yeah.

Tiffany Mason:

She's in love with the boy, though.

Jay Franze:

Well, it's because he's standing outside the fire, number 11.

Tiffany Mason:

Or maybe it's because how many friends he has in low places.

Jay Franze:

That's probably it Okay, I think we've beat that one enough. Number 11 goes to Gretchen Wilson. You know what? I believe she belongs at number 11. Let's keep her just outside the top 10, but not quite up there with the newer artists, I agree. And I think she also kind of brought a new feel to country music with Redneck Woman.

Tiffany Mason:

That's what I was thinking.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, fair there you go, I'm okay with it.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Number 10. Here you go Belongs on the top 10.

Tiffany Mason:

Carrie Underwood.

Jay Franze:

No, I don't know. Oh, you want me to tell you.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I will, if you want me, to Martina McBride.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, sure, yeah, Okay we didn't think about her.

Jay Franze:

Neither one of us mentioned her, but she absolutely belongs on the top 10. Absolutely, and probably right around 10. All right, number nine.

Tiffany Mason:

Number nine I'm ready to abandon the list. Oh God, oh.

Jay Franze:

Is it Beyonce? It says the chicks, the Dixie chicks.

Tiffany Mason:

I was just going to say.

Jay Franze:

No, I don't know if important. I don't think they've done anything important. I mean, I think they've brought a lot of light because of controversy.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

But I don't think.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, weren't they one of the first bands to bring the fiddle in? I mean, not the first to bring a fiddle in, but it was like focused on that, you know it was. That was a big piece of their whole thing and always in the spotlight. It wasn't just like a supporting instrument.

Jay Franze:

I mean that was a piece of it and said they are also one of the ones that played their own instruments. I get that they actually can perform and play their instruments not only play them, but play them very well. So I'll give them credit for the ability to do the basics to be on stage. I get that that should be a requirement to be on stage. However, I don't know, I mean that's the only thing it says here is they play their own instruments. I mean, don't get me wrong, it says more. I'm just not reading anymore.

Tiffany Mason:

Eight Number eight, my favorite number for those in the crew who want to keep up with my favorite.

Jay Franze:

It says more. I'm just not reading anymore.

Tiffany Mason:

Eight Number eight. My favorite number for those in the crew who want to keep up with my favorite number is number eight One.

Jay Franze:

Uh uh, uh, Two.

Tiffany Mason:

Lainey Wilson. Oh, okay.

Jay Franze:

I think she belongs on the list. I think she belongs. I don't know about top 10, but I do believe she's up there on the list for sure.

Tiffany Mason:

I think maybe top 10, didn't she just get a pretty significant award?

Jay Franze:

Yeah, she did. Entertainer of the Year.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, but I mean other women on this list could have gotten Entertainer of the Year as well.

Jay Franze:

Other women on this list have gotten Entertainer of the Year, but she has done more than just that she's won multiple awards. It says here there's only one woman on this list that has won more collective CMA and ACM awards the entertainer of the year and that is Taylor Swift. Oh, wow. And she beats her by one.

Tiffany Mason:

That's impressive.

Jay Franze:

So that's definitely impressive and she does deserve to be on the list because of it.

Tiffany Mason:

But she deserves to be on the list for other reasons.

Jay Franze:

I mean her talents and I mean she's amazing. I mean she's new, yeah, but she's amazing New-ish. Number seven an artist that absolutely belongs on the list, belongs in the top five. We're only on number seven Dolly Parton, I agree.

Tiffany Mason:

Misnumbered, for sure. Top five.

Jay Franze:

If you really look at all of Dolly Parton's stuff, she could probably be number one on the list. I know I said Reba was the first one to pop to my mind.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

But Dolly should be number one on the list.

Tiffany Mason:

When I lived in Minnesota. Dolly Parton I'm sure you've heard of this has a book program and she gives a lot of books I mean a lot of books, and so the organization that I would work with was the United Way and we would have these dinners and they would get all this money and then it would go towards the. It's called the Imagination Library and it's supported by Dolly Parton, so she has that that a lot of people don't know about. Then she has her amusement park, then she has the museum, like she's just, she's everywhere.

Jay Franze:

And she. She collaborates with everybody and people outside of the genre and kills it. Yeah, no, I agree she. She belongs in this. I really do. When I know I mentioned Reba, it was the first one that came to mind, but Dolly really should be number one in this description. Here it says Dolly Parton's presence alone is enough to get her on this list. However. She's everybody's hero, from Reba to Taylor. So even Reba looks up to Dolly.

Tiffany Mason:

She should be a lot higher. I would love to see who they think she pales in comparison to.

Jay Franze:

Please. I'm afraid to look at the rest of the list now.

Tiffany Mason:

I am too. All right, I can't imagine.

Jay Franze:

I didn't want to have to punch the computer again this week, but let's find out All right Number six, One of the most amazing artists in the world, but does not belong on this list. In my opinion Alison Krauss. Oh, I mean, I think, she belongs maybe in the upper level of this list.

Tiffany Mason:

Not above Dolly. Not above Dolly.

Jay Franze:

Not above Reba. Well, she's not above Reba. We haven't seen Reba on this list yet. She's got to be. Only one female artist, all genres, has won more Grammys than Alison Krauss.

Tiffany Mason:

Taylor Swift.

Jay Franze:

No, I don't want to say it, beyonce. No I mean, granted, this is all genre, so Beyonce deserves the the Grammys in her, her native genre, but Alison Krauss, between Country and Bluegrass, has been amazing. She I mean she's an amazing artist, super talented and belongs on the list. I just don't know if I would put her in the top 10.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, all right.

Jay Franze:

Number five, kacey Musgraves, really.

Tiffany Mason:

What Above Dolly?

Jay Franze:

That's what I'm saying.

Tiffany Mason:

Come on.

Jay Franze:

Great, she's awesome, you know, whatever she's got that folky feel to her Kind of like an Emmylou Harris type of style.

Tiffany Mason:

I just no folky feel to her kind of like an emilu harris type of style.

Jay Franze:

I just no. I don't understand why she would be this high on the list no, I agree it says, very few will truly understand her influence. Well, yes, exactly, but everyone will recognize and respect her contribution to the genre.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

I will. I mean, I'll recognize it and I'll respect it. I get that, but you're kind of stating my point. I know All right. Number four list is over.

Tiffany Mason:

I agree.

Jay Franze:

Reba McIntyre.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, who's going to beat those two? Okay, I don't think we need to say very much about Reba. Like it's the same thing with Dolly. She's awesome yeah.

Jay Franze:

She's super nice, mega talented. Between her television shows and everything else she's got going on, she gives back. She's amazing.

Tiffany Mason:

Yep.

Jay Franze:

Yep, she belongs on the list. She was fighting it out for number one, number two, before I thought about Dolly.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I was thinking of her little tribute museum or Reba Land or whatever it was in the CMA Fest.

Jay Franze:

Yeah.

Tiffany Mason:

Where they had, like, the voice chair and they had the. Different television shows, yeah, all of her television shows, all of her costumes, all full of albums. Yes, yes, yes, sign, yeah, all of her television shows, all of her costumes, yes, yes. And then even going to bob bullock's house and seeing all the albums that he did with her, like, yeah, I don't know if she needs much explanation but we just gave her 20 minutes anyway yeah, number three my opinion yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely 100%.

Jay Franze:

However, I'm surprised to see it on the list.

Tiffany Mason:

Taylor Swift. Oh okay, I love that. A little redemption for them.

Jay Franze:

Who's going to?

Tiffany Mason:

top those guys who's going to top Taylor, rhea and.

Jay Franze:

Dolly. Taylor Swift is definitely one of the most important and influential women in music Period. But after the first record it wasn't like it was country music anymore.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

And the title of the article says Most Important Women in Country Music.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, okay, who's two?

Jay Franze:

All right, number two, miranda Lambert.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, who's one?

Jay Franze:

You just want to skip to one.

Tiffany Mason:

I just want to know one.

Jay Franze:

In 25 years, one of two singers will be cited as the most influential country star of the 2000s Carrie Underwood or Miranda Lambert. So who do you think number one is going to be Carrie Underwood. There you go. That would be my guess. I get it. She is definitely super talented, but where's her? Amusement park. She's done a lot.

Tiffany Mason:

Where's her amusement park? Where's her giving back kids books that can't afford books?

Jay Franze:

Number one.

Tiffany Mason:

Where's all her charity programs? Number one? Where's her decades, decades like Dolly?

Jay Franze:

Number one, programs number one. Where's her decades?

Tiffany Mason:

decades like dolly. Come on number one, carrie underwood. Sorry, I just couldn't wait. The anticipation was killing me.

Jay Franze:

We can backtrack to anyone you want now I like carrie underwood, I mean she's one of my favorites. I mean, if we're just talking about one. If. If I were to hit play driving down the road, Carrie Underwood would probably be the first choice I would go to. Well, her.

Tiffany Mason:

Really Not Five Finger Death Punch.

Jay Franze:

We're talking about country women. Okay, I mean her, even Taylor Swift, but Carrie Underwood would probably be my go-to because she's got that more aggressive style country music, yeah yeah.

Tiffany Mason:

I can see that Not really aggressive style country music.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, yeah, I could see that Not really aggressive style country music, but the aggressive style lyrics.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I could see that.

Jay Franze:

Where I would say Miranda Lambert has got more of the aggressive style music.

Tiffany Mason:

It's definitely rougher.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, but yes, glad she's on the list Top 10 for sure. Does she beat out Dolly? Not, in my opinion.

Tiffany Mason:

Does she beat out Rey not in my opinion.

Jay Franze:

Does she beat out reba? Not in my opinion, but that's okay, good for her.

Tiffany Mason:

Moving on well, yep, let's talk about some country news. So, miss miranda lambert and chris miss number two they were kind of hinting on their social media that maybe they're going to do a collaboration at the song called a song to sing, and then they both posted on their social media what people are speculating could be the artwork for the single. It was featuring a 70s disco style ball with patterned hearts and it had the artist's names on it against an orange black drop.

Jay Franze:

So who knows? Now we'll see. We talk about all these collabs that are going on these days. People are collaborating with everybody, I think you know, you got people collaborating with the waitress down at the diner so I get that but I think this is one that is a true match. So I get that, but I think this is one that is a true match. You know, we were just talking about that rougher style and more raspy style, vocal To me, I think those two belong together.

Tiffany Mason:

I always feel like Chris Stapleton is always like, so sultry and sexy and like baby making music. I never thought that about Miranda Lambert, tennessee Whiskey. Hello.

Jay Franze:

Same feel to me.

Tiffany Mason:

Huh, I think, when I think of Miranda Lambert, I think of the House that Built Me, so I don't think of you know, I mean, and that is like a whole nostalgic song for me. Yeah, yeah, alright, okay well, I'll have to listen to some of her songs through different ears and see if I can make.

Jay Franze:

I hope it goes through.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, we're going to find out soon. I mean, they just hinted in July, just a couple days ago. So if we live long enough, we'll find out.

Jay Franze:

What a way to put that one huh.

Tiffany Mason:

All right. Well, miss Ella Langley is in the news. She was going on stage with Morgan Wallen and she wrote a little something on the palm of her hand. She said she didn't want to get the performance wrong. She wanted to be right with all of her lyrics and what she was singing, because she was filling in for Tate McRae and she does a little dancing and I don't know if you're like wow, she's really good at that, because she was filling in for Tate McRae and she does a little dancing and I don't know if you're like wow, she's really good at that. But she is much like your daughter, lucy and Bella, and she took dance in high school and actually won even a couple of awards. So we may see Bella or Lucy on the stage. Maybe we'll see Bella sign languaging and dancing for Lucy on the main mic singing along.

Jay Franze:

Bella's actually been singing a lot lately.

Tiffany Mason:

Is that right?

Jay Franze:

She was looking to do a little bit of musical theater. I don't know if that'll happen or not. Ah, fun she does like to sing.

Tiffany Mason:

As well as sign.

Jay Franze:

I think she likes to sign more than she likes to sing.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, she seems like she really loves it, which is pretty cool. I think it's pretty cool at that age to find a passion.

Jay Franze:

Yeah.

Tiffany Mason:

You know, I've been asking Hannah all summer. I'm like what do you want to learn more about? Do you want to get a craft that goes with this thing that you're really interested in? She's like nah, it's just scrolling on TikTok or Snapchat. I'm like, okay, I don't know. That's a talent, that's a talent all on its own. Yeah, I guess she's got cheer, but anyway. So people are wondering where she got her dance moves. She's a professional. She danced professionally in high school.

Jay Franze:

No pole, no pole.

Tiffany Mason:

No pole, no pole at that age.

Jay Franze:

Oh, not at that age, please Sorry.

Tiffany Mason:

Move on. That's okay. So the next story that we wanted to talk about was Morgan Wallen, giving 35 kids from his hometown in the Knoxville area of Tennessee the ability to attend summer camp focused on music and art. The Morgan Wallen Foundation has issued a $15,000 grant to the Salvation Army Knoxville Area Command, according to sources, I didn't realize he was from that area of Tennessee. Now, you know Now.

Jay Franze:

I know.

Tiffany Mason:

Sometimes it does surprise me because maybe they live there now, but that's not where their roots are from. So I am always surprised when I'm like huh, you're actually really from there. That's cool.

Jay Franze:

He's neighbors with Kenny Chesney.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, he is.

Jay Franze:

That's where Kenny Chesney's from.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, got it. Yes, I thought it was interesting to learn that he's actually from Tennessee.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, and Looks like he's from Tennessee.

Tiffany Mason:

He looks like he's from Tennessee. That's true. That's true, yep.

Jay Franze:

With his what do we call it? Oh, he's noncommittal. He's got a noncommittal mullet.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, non-committal, he's got a non-committal mullet.

Jay Franze:

Yes, yes. Maybe he's afraid of commitment, jay.

Tiffany Mason:

He's afraid of commitment. Okay, well, how about this? So I guess that Jelly Roll has a tradition where he likes to take care of his people. That is his opening act. And so his opening act was, oh oh, josh Ross. This is the guy I want to talk about. Oh my gosh, I thought it was later on. Okay, so I know, I know, I thought it was later on in our storylines. Josh Ross was on tour with him, and the gift that Josh Ross and the rest of the people got was a Nintendo Switch. So I had an initial thought where I was like I wonder how many of them kept the Nintendo Switch and how many of them gave them to a child that they have, or a niece, or a nephew, or whatever.

Jay Franze:

Keep them for yourself.

Tiffany Mason:

Right, keep it.

Jay Franze:

And it's a fun gift.

Tiffany Mason:

Why are you going to give me your Rolex, then oh, was I supposed to do that?

Jay Franze:

Oh, I gave it to Scarlett, that's right.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh no. So Josh Ross he has a song I love, single Again, and he says I got the same old number that you used to hit up, 615. And I was like Hannah, look it up, where is that? And it was Tennessee. And I was like what that's so cool? But I was thinking that he was he's from Canada. So it's interesting that what I was saying with roots and where you live now, and just interesting what they claim Like I was born and raised in Iowa but I spent most of my married life in Minnesota. So when people ask me where I'm from, I lots of times will say Minnesota, even though I'm really from Iowa. Lots of times I say it's a loaded question.

Jay Franze:

No, I'm from Boston.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I mean I've lived in the South longer than I've lived in Boston at this point, but I'm from Boston. That's where I went to high school.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I don't know.

Jay Franze:

I think that's, I think that's the the factor. Where did you go to high school?

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Where? Where were the formative years? That's where you grew up.

Tiffany Mason:

Iowa in the cornfields. There you go.

Jay Franze:

Um Josh.

Tiffany Mason:

Josh Ross, it's hard for me to say fast. I have a picture with him. I met him. So did I, Jay. You just saw my thunder. Oh, I'm sorry.

Jay Franze:

Tell me about yours.

Tiffany Mason:

No, I wasn't even going to tell you anything about it. I was just telling you I had one.

Jay Franze:

He opened up for Nickelback. Just telling you, I had one. He opened up for Nickelback. So when I went to Nickelback I was able to meet him as well and he couldn't have been nicer. And I posed for pictures with his PR person instead of him. I mean, I got a picture with him too, but I feel bad for the PR people that stand there and get no attention. So I always just like to take pictures with them.

Tiffany Mason:

Hey, sometimes that's how you meet really awesome people, which is how we met Scarlett.

Jay Franze:

Yes, that's, true, not that she's a PR firm, but you feel bad for her. She's a future PR agent. She's on her way, there you go.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, she's on her way. Well, Megan Maroney's cover of Toby Keith's who's your Daddy song is very refreshing. No-transcript From 2002. Who's your Daddy, and sorry people.

Jay Franze:

Sorry, what are you doing?

Tiffany Mason:

I guess my screen is not big enough.

Jay Franze:

This is not professional.

Tiffany Mason:

This is not professional. Why don't you be more professional? Tiffany. Anyways. You're fired that was warranted. That was warranted. My computer screen was cutting off, a word Anyways, but her vocals were playful. Delivery breathed new life into the song. So that's interesting. I have not heard her version of that song it's a good song though it is a good song.

Jay Franze:

That's kind of fun I have to check it out like her, and that's a good song I don't know if I do like her. No.

Tiffany Mason:

No, she has a very I've never seen. Well, I have. Actually, I was going to say I've never seen Conway Twitty's wife, but if I had to guess, I would say it's like what she looks like.

Jay Franze:

Where did that come from?

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, you know what she makes me think of. Is the Vembots from Austin Powers, yes, yes, you think of. Is the vimbots from austin powers? Yes, do you know the vimbots? No, oh, that's too bad. Everybody out there listening. You guys know what I'm talking about the blondes with the high white platinum boots oh yeah, yes, I know, yes, okay, I know. Yes, okay, yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze:

All right.

Tiffany Mason:

Good, that's what she makes me think.

Jay Franze:

So don't make fun of me now. Keep your emails. Megan Maroney, I saw her open up for Brooks and Dunn. Oh, and. Lucy, you mentioned my daughter, Lucy, earlier. She went with me and she got to sit there and watch Megan's soundcheck and then got to go up on stage and stand and sing through the microphone and stuff.

Tiffany Mason:

I want to be your kid Jay.

Jay Franze:

I want to be my kid.

Tiffany Mason:

Who's my daddy? Who's your daddy? Jay, can you be my daddy?

Jay Franze:

I don't know if your husband's going to like it, but who's your daddy? We should move on before you get divorced and I get in trouble.

Tiffany Mason:

You always share the coolest stories that your kids get to experience.

Jay Franze:

It's my kids that get to do it, though I mean, you know what's funny to me.

Tiffany Mason:

That's why I asked to be one of your kids.

Jay Franze:

I always offer it to Bella, and she always turns it down. And Lucy you know she takes it up. I mean, she has no idea who these artists? Are. I mean she has no idea who these artists are, but she loves going because she knows she's going to get treated like a rock star. Yeah, she came back from. Brooks and Dunn with a goodie bag. I mean it had belt buckles in it. I mean I think the belt buckle's behind me on the shelf here.

Tiffany Mason:

but Nothing for dear old dad.

Jay Franze:

No. Well, she gave me the belt buckle. It's a giant country belt buckle. Yeah, it's back there we'll believe you yeah, I'm gonna have to put it up on instagram if you don't believe me.

Tiffany Mason:

There you go well, I think we talked about kelly clarkson and her residency in las vegas and actually, let's see, 90 minutes before she was supposed to take the stage for her debut performance, she made an emotional announcement on instagram saying that they've been working 24 7 to make the studio sessions the most intimate and extraordinary experience, but her vocal cords were not up to speed so she canceled. Hopefully she can pull it together and isn't what you said was one of the benefits of doing the residencies is that you're not singing every single night.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I mean, you could possibly be singing every night, but most of them aren't. They usually sing a night or two and then take a couple nights off, like celine dion had a residency for ages.

Jay Franze:

But yeah, I mean the benefit of it is there's no travel stress. Oh sure, when you're on tour and you're traveling, and whether it be by bus, plane, in the food and all that stuff here you get to. For someone like her, she's probably does not have a house in Vegas, so she's probably staying at one of the suites and gets the buffet food and one of the suites and gets the buffet food and all of the fun stuff.

Jay Franze:

So it's much more relaxing situation to be in, but you still get sick, you get sick, you get sick yeah.

Tiffany Mason:

That was on July 4th too. Like womp womp, Everyone's asking. You know, like, what are you doing for the 4th? What are you doing for the 4th? We're going to go see Kelly Clarkson in Las Vegas. No, you're not.

Jay Franze:

Her residency is at Caesars, I know. It's a nice resort to be at. You know who went to Vegas and sang with Kelly Clarkson?

Tiffany Mason:

I want to say Presley Tennant.

Jay Franze:

There you go, proud of you. Yes, want to say Presley Tennant. There you go. Kelly Clarkson was her coach on the Voice, oh right, and she asked her to come out and sing and it just happened to be Presley's birthday and she went out.

Tiffany Mason:

You can look it up on.

Jay Franze:

YouTube. You know I love the hell out of Kelly Clarkson and Presley Tennant held her own if not probably went a little bit better. Kelly at the end of it said you know she says I think you did better than me.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh Well, at least she was honest about it.

Jay Franze:

There you go.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, okay. Well, mr Keith Irvin, he is no stranger to a couple of awards and it's funny because he doesn't display them at his house. So what he does is he puts them in the mail to his mama and she's keeping them safe for him, I guess. So that's kind of cute, interesting. He doesn't have the awards displayed at his house, but his mommy does.

Jay Franze:

That's pretty cool. I don't know if my mother would have taken them If I sent her the plaques and stuff. I don't think she'd want it. She'd be like what am I supposed to do with these?

Tiffany Mason:

I think I would feel the same way.

Jay Franze:

I don't have any hanging up in here. Yeah. I don't have the awards of Keith Urban, don't get me wrong, but I do have plaques from the sessions I was involved in. And. I kid you not, they're all sitting in a box in my garage.

Tiffany Mason:

That's sad.

Jay Franze:

It is sad. But they don't bring me joy. Yeah, who's?

Tiffany Mason:

that lady that says that Marie Kondo?

Jay Franze:

Yes, thank you.

Tiffany Mason:

I'm coming in clutch tonight man.

Jay Franze:

I've taken that to heart. They do not bring me joy when I look at those plaques. They do not bring me joy so they do not hang in my workspace.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, well, I think similar in our house we have like artwork, which is fine, but what brings me happiness and joy is like pictures of my family. So in the little music record space that I'm creating it will be pictures of our family and I have a like mom shrine in my office just all the little trinkety crap my kids have given me. Yeah, it looks like garbage but you know it makes me so happy that when they had their little 50 cent santa shopping area, you know like like this Look at this, what Nice Number one mom Heck, yeah.

Jay Franze:

I have one of those, not number one mom but like one of those on the shelf is like best dad or something.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, and that brings me joy. What do you think this costs? Like a portion of a penny.

Jay Franze:

It's not about cost, it's about thought.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, trust me, I know it's not about cost, it's about thought. Oh, trust me, I know it sits on my desk. I look at it all the time.

Jay Franze:

I'll tell you. I mean if we ever clean out the garage. I mean because my garage is like a storage unit.

Tiffany Mason:

It's not supposed to be, but somehow it is Only in Florida.

Jay Franze:

But if we clean it out, I'll go ahead and put the plaques up on the wall in the garage, but I don't want them in my house. Yeah, I don't know, for whatever reason, I think it's tacky. I don't want them in my house.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah Well, yes, I can appreciate that about you. If it was me, I'd have to have them up with some lights on them. Maybe they'd be flashing.

Jay Franze:

Well, if I had a studio set up like Bob Bullock's, they'd be all over in the studio.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

But not in my house.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I'm in my office now.

Jay Franze:

I wouldn't no I don't want them in here.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah Well, I think we talked about Randy Travis and Clay Walker's close to net relationship. Anyway, they're doing a wheelchair race, the racing event of 2025. The two country greats were recently both in the same place at the same time in their wheelchairs, so of course they had to take the opportunity to see who could wheel down the hallway the fastest. To be fair, each singer had some help from a person pushing the chair, so it was a level playing field and beyond that, it seemed more like a friendly match than a serious competition.

Jay Franze:

Okay, If someone's pushing it. Obviously they're not motorized, but I would like to see them racing motorized wheelchairs to see who's got it set up. And you know, I picture it like seeing the wheels screeching in the hallway. Yes, like on the hardwood floors and the wheels screeching and a couple wheelchairs going down.

Tiffany Mason:

I bet we can make AI do that. Oh, I'm sure we can, if I think about it.

Jay Franze:

If I remember, throughout this week, I'll go ahead and get AI to create a video of that or a photo or something of it.

Tiffany Mason:

That's funny. It does paint a good visual.

Jay Franze:

A little bit of smoke coming up out of the back of the wheelchair.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, that's exactly what I picture. Yeah, maybe a little spark.

Jay Franze:

Oh, I thought you were saying that I was giving you some sparks. I got it.

Tiffany Mason:

No.

Jay Franze:

No.

Tiffany Mason:

Sorry.

Jay Franze:

Hey, wait, who's your daddy? Wait.

Tiffany Mason:

I got to remember to go check that song out because that is very exciting, Just to hear it. You know, read that in somebody else's vision. Well, somebody who has a vision for each other is Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton. They are now four years deep into their marriage and they are feeling as smitten as newlyweds. And it was clearly who knows Come on.

Jay Franze:

I'm married.

Tiffany Mason:

I know there's no well, four years in, you still could be. But Gwen Stefani put a video montage of the love celebration on social media. So you know, everyone posts their highlight reels. So in her highlight reel they look like they are just smitten as newlyweds.

Jay Franze:

It's easy for them to post a highlight reel their whole life's on camera.

Tiffany Mason:

Right.

Jay Franze:

But yeah, I mean no, four years in no honeymoon phase is over.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, and I know that this is probably a stupid question, but I can't keep track Did Gwen Stefani have his baby?

Jay Franze:

Whoa, I don't know.

Tiffany Mason:

I feel like it was like Gwen Stefani is pregnant and then it was like, oh, false alarm, or she lost the baby or something. And then it was like, oh, gwen Stefani's pregnant and I'm like this woman never had a baby.

Jay Franze:

Do you realize you're the one reading the news? News is supposed to be factual.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I know this was just a side question. It's factual that they've been married for four years and they're smitten as newlyweds.

Jay Franze:

Fair enough.

Tiffany Mason:

Those are the facts we're offering.

Jay Franze:

So we are offering, as long as we're offering some facts, yes, Four years in, if anybody in the crew knows. Four years in, I do not agree. I think sparks are over. I think at that point, it's friendship that keeps you going.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, the other person has pissed you off enough.

Jay Franze:

They haven't unlocked the dishwasher or they haven't gotten their clothes in the hamper, you're pooping with the door open.

Tiffany Mason:

It's true, it's a different level of comfort.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, Kind of wish my wife would do that.

Tiffany Mason:

She's not waking up with makeup anymore.

Jay Franze:

All right, shall we move on to the question of the day.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, you've been making me wait this entire time to share with you.

Jay Franze:

All right Question of the day day who are the most underrated female vocalists in country music? Who are the most underrated female vocalists in country music?

Jay Franze:

no no no underrated female vocalists you can add whatever you want, because the crew has added whatever they want so we can expand to all music. I mean, hell, we got Taylor Swift as one of the most influential people in country music. All right, oh, and I appreciate it. I see some people are abbreviating their last name this week. Thank you, you never know, otherwise Jay's going. I appreciate it. I see some people are abbreviating their last name this week, thank you.

Tiffany Mason:

You never know. Otherwise, jay's going to say it, I know.

Jay Franze:

Sunny Sweeney. Tom says Sunny Sweeney, she blends honky-tonk with heartbreak.

Tiffany Mason:

Nope, I don't know her.

Jay Franze:

Well, good, I'm glad we're off to a good start.

Tiffany Mason:

I like her name yeah.

Jay Franze:

Julie Roberts. Mark, sorry, mark says Julie Roberts, I don't know her, you don't know her. No, no, she's good, Says she should have been a household name. I guess that's the point. Maybe you shouldn't know her. It is underrated, right Right? Here's one that I don't necessarily agree with jeff says tanya tucker, I think she got it was cool because she had such a raspy voice but is she underrated? I don't think so no, to be fair, he does have in parentheses her early career okay, that's what I was thinking of.

Jay Franze:

I didn't realize we're putting stipulations to things here tonight.

Tiffany Mason:

Do not consider the whole person, only a portion of their career.

Jay Franze:

Despite her legendary status, she is overlooked for decades. All right, thank you, jeff. A lot of the people I worked with in Nashville worked with her first, so it seems like a lot of the people met while working for her, like Andy Hall played drums for her.

Tiffany Mason:

Matt.

Jay Franze:

McClure was her live sound engineer. Tony Cottrell went out and did a couple of shows with her. Anyways, kelly Pickler oh my gosh. Yes, kelly pickler is one of my favorites. She hasn't been performing for quite a while. I know um. Her husband just recently passed away, kyle jacobs. Kelly pickler was struggling putting her last album together and Kyle, being a producer and a songwriter, helped her through it and got her through and released the album, and then he passed away.

Jay Franze:

I don't know if she kind of fell out of it after all. That I mean it'd be hard to continue on. I mean that would be hard to be a newlywed and your husband pass away and he was the one producing your records and writing your songs.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, yep, it'd be tough.

Jay Franze:

It just cannot feel right.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, all right, sorry Sorry, kelly, she was very nice too. She was very nice too, very, very nice.

Tiffany Mason:

She was cute as a button on American Idol.

Jay Franze:

She's a beautiful, beautiful girl. Shelley Wright. Ron says Shelley Wright.

Tiffany Mason:

I thought you said Shelley Wright and immediately I thought you said wrong and I was like what?

Jay Franze:

Ron says Shelly Wright. She's brave and talented and constantly overlooked. Okay, all right, this one. I don't know if I can agree with it, but Kyle says Jennifer Nettles.

Tiffany Mason:

All I want to do. Nice, I like her.

Jay Franze:

I think, she's awesome.

Tiffany Mason:

I'd say yes.

Jay Franze:

But is she underrated? I think people recognize her for her talents. Says people forget that she's a powerhouse outside of Sugar Land. Oh, Now she was a rock singer before she went to Sugar Land. Oh really, yeah, I have her one, maybe two records of hers. She was a solo artist and a rock singer.

Tiffany Mason:

We know you got an affinity for these chicks at the front of the rock band.

Jay Franze:

Oh, here's one I can agree with Alex. Alex says Kim Ritchie. I can tell by your face. You don't know who Kim Ritchie is, and I wouldn't expect you to, but man, she's awesome she is awesome, kim Ritchie. He says oh, she's a pioneer in alt country. I think she is. Kim Ritchie is an amazing artist, amazing songwriter.

Tiffany Mason:

Does Ritchie end with a Y or an I-E?

Jay Franze:

E-Y.

Tiffany Mason:

E-Y Okay.

Jay Franze:

Kim Ritchie, she is very, very good. Yeah, kim Ritchie, she is very, very good. Yeah, I mean, I remember when I went in and recorded the Marie Martin album that some of the people that played on Kim Ritchie's record just came from that session over to this session and they learned a bunch of tricks on that session and wanted to put them on Marie Martin's record but it didn't fit so we had to take it off.

Tiffany Mason:

Aw yeah.

Jay Franze:

Anyways, great artist Trick Pony. Trick Pony is fronted by, what's it? Heidi Newfield. So yeah, I would say underrated Pam Tillis. Oh wait, wait, I did it again. Hold on, hold on say underrated Pam Tillis. Oh, wait, wait, I did it again. Hold on, hold on hold on, let me figure out where it is. Caleb said Trick Pony, I do know how to get yelled at.

Tiffany Mason:

Caleb says Trick Pony and Erin says Pam Tillis, big fan of Pam Tillis, yeah, yes.

Jay Franze:

Underrated? I don't think so. No, I don't think she's underrated, I think people, I think she's rated just right okay, I don't think she's overrated I don't think she's underrated pam tillis. Again, I think pam tillis is one of those that, um, who, who was it? Scotty simpson and jeff king, I believe. Both played for Pam Tillis before they went on to Reba and the Oak Ridge Boys. Anyways, next Terry Clark. Oh, jason, jason says Terry Clark.

Tiffany Mason:

I like Terry Clark.

Jay Franze:

I like Terry Clark, underrated.

Tiffany Mason:

I feel like. I don't know if they're underrated, but I don't feel like they are, as you know, like in the spotlight. Maybe that's how people are feeling, like Pantelis and Terry Clark.

Jay Franze:

Fair enough, I can go with that line of thinking. Yeah, jared, you're wrong. Sorry, jared says Laney Wilson. No, no, he does have a qualifier in here.

Tiffany Mason:

He says, okay, before yellowstone, okay, probably, probably. But now it's a hard argument. When you win entertainer of the year, there's no way, she's underrated, no way, sorry. Was she before. Yellowstone.

Jay Franze:

Maybe, I guess you can argue that case for sure. But no, Sorry, I love it. I love it. It is absolutely humorous to me. Francis says Danny Stefanetti. It is absolutely humorous to me. Francis says Danny Stefanetti. I love. Danny Stefanetti.

Tiffany Mason:

Danny Stefanetti is the one who gave me this bear right here.

Jay Franze:

Oh yes, Danny Stefanetti is awesome. I didn't expect to see her on the list. Is she underrated? I would say I don't know if she's underrated. The people who know who she is think she's amazing. Is she just not as well known yet?

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Huh, I like that. That's a good one, frances. Thank you All right. Let's see. Anthony's a good one, frances. Thank you All right.

Tiffany Mason:

Anthony says Amy Lee. Should I know Amy Lee?

Jay Franze:

You should, you will, but this is where we're veering off from country for sure.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Amy Lee is the singer of Evanescence. Oh, okay, now to be fair Again, anthony's got a qualifier in here, not really underrated, however, she is one of my favorites, anthony. Yeah, I love him, that'll work.

Tiffany Mason:

Fair enough, he wanted to get his two cents in there about his fave.

Jay Franze:

All right, Brynn. Thank you for joining. I appreciate you being here. Brynn, says Lucinda Williams.

Tiffany Mason:

Return Lucinda.

Jay Franze:

Christy, she says me Now she's not talking about me. She's talking about her.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I've never heard her sing.

Tiffany Mason:

You sang her huh.

Jay Franze:

Christy, if you want to join jfrenzycom slash live, you can join.

Tiffany Mason:

Christy.

Jay Franze:

And you can sing right here. We'll let you do it.

Tiffany Mason:

We've got a stage for you.

Jay Franze:

Anyway, there you go. Who do you think is the most underrated female vocalist?

Tiffany Mason:

um well, I had two people on my list. The first person that I wrote down was jewel underrated yeah, I mean, I never hear people be like oh, she's awesome, I love her.

Jay Franze:

She's an awesome songwriter. She does have an awesome voice, but I mean, I don't know if I would consider her. Well, she's very talented. I don't think she's underrated, okay. I think she's properly rated, okay.

Tiffany Mason:

Nonetheless, my other one is probably properly rated too. So who do you think is underrated?

Jay Franze:

Jay, I want to know who the other one is.

Tiffany Mason:

No, because they're not underrated.

Jay Franze:

Well, you can still share.

Tiffany Mason:

I said Pink Definitely not underrated.

Jay Franze:

Never mind, pink is another awesome singer, but not underrated at all I know.

Tiffany Mason:

Maybe I'm thinking more like husband. Maybe if you went to like Cyndi Lauper.

Jay Franze:

Cyndi Lauper is underrated. She's got killer hits and writes killer songs, but she's not known as a vocalist. But man, the woman can sing.

Tiffany Mason:

That's true.

Jay Franze:

But Pink no, I know.

Tiffany Mason:

And I don't know what made that connection.

Jay Franze:

I think it's just the pink hair of Cyndi Lauper. I think, going from pink to pink hair, I would say Melanie Kramer.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh yes, I love her voice.

Jay Franze:

Yes, I mean that woman can sing. She can sing. And I mean I would say they're. It's probably because they're not as well known. However, they are well known within their circle, I mean they travel all over the place and they are very, very. People don't miss them, but Melanie Kramer, I think, is definitely an underrated female vocalist. All right, let's move on. That was a friendly conversation. That's what we strive for here.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, well, we are learning breaking news. You're hearing it right here on the Jay Franze Show that Australia is having a moment. Y'all Australia is really taking a liking to our country music and they have some of their own artists that are breaking out as well, and it's Gen Z that is actually driving the popularity with this genre, particularly in the metropolitan area. So I think that that's interesting, Although I know one of the ladies that we met at CMA Fest was from Australia. That was exciting.

Jay Franze:

Chloe Styler.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, just interesting that Australia is really taking a liking to country music. It's having a resurgence down on the mate. Yeah, please don't do that again.

Jay Franze:

We have had a handful of Australian country singers on the show, including Danny Stefanetti. Oops, there I go, punch the microphone again. Danny Stefanetti bear. Anyways, danny Stefanetti was on the show. She's living in California now but she is from Australia. But Chloe Styler you mentioned her from the CMA awards. She's another awesome singer. And then Katie Jane was recently on the show and lives in Australia and does not plan to leave Australia.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze:

She likes being there. She's a radio personality there, oh. And likes performing in that country. She said she would love to be a global artist, but she feels comfortable being in. Australia. But the reason I mentioned her is because I was listening to country music news on the radio today and it was her. I thought that was funny. It was on an iHeart radio station and it was Katie Jane.

Tiffany Mason:

Ah, too funny. You have to reach out to her and say hey, I heard your segment.

Jay Franze:

I know that voice.

Tiffany Mason:

Uh-huh, that's cool. Well, a voice you maybe don't know yet is Rachel Fahim. Fahim Fahim. She has dropped her most vulnerable single yet who you Are, a bold confessional anthem for anyone who's ever lost themselves in the wrong relationship. The track will no doubt make waves as it's emotionally charged, following up her hit Good Luck, which currently sits at number one on the CMT Australian charts.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, no, I mean I've heard a little bit at this point and it's good. She's very good and very emotional. She definitely has a lot of feeling. We talk about storytelling a lot for country music and how important it is, and she's very good with telling a story.

Tiffany Mason:

Maybe she has an underrated voice because it didn't say Australian country music voice.

Jay Franze:

Somebody reach out and tell us Is she underrated?

Tiffany Mason:

Katie.

Jay Franze:

Katie Jane, if you're out there, if you're listening please chime in and let us know. If anybody could tell us.

Tiffany Mason:

You, you're listening. Please chime in and let us know If anybody can tell us.

Jay Franze:

You should be able to tell us.

Tiffany Mason:

That's right. Well, hunter Valley in Australia Just got a new country venue and it is called the Full Throttle Ranch and it just Officially opened its doors to the public and they are offering A roasted meat menu Plus live bands. And Jay officially opened its doors to the public and they are offering a roasted meat menu plus live bands. And Jay, just for you, some bush dancing.

Jay Franze:

You're not going to do it, you're not going to bait me in.

Tiffany Mason:

That made my night.

Jay Franze:

Okay, Maybe a little is it on a pole.

Tiffany Mason:

No.

Jay Franze:

No.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay, kebab it on a pole. No, no, okay A kebab, it's a meat kebab. It's a mini pole.

Jay Franze:

Moving on. Yes, they opened their bar on the 4th of July, which is cool. It's an American-themed bar, it has country music and what's cool about it is it's a honky-tonk. If you picked it up and put it in Nashville, it's a honky tonk. It's pretty cool. I don't know. I would like to go see it. Way to go Aussies.

Tiffany Mason:

I would like to go see it.

Jay Franze:

I want to go to Australia.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I think there's a problem for you or I making it to Australia, Jay. Our love for being in an airplane.

Jay Franze:

You know I fly all the time for work. I hate flying.

Tiffany Mason:

Hate it.

Jay Franze:

Not a fan. There's not a thing I like about it. I'd much rather hop in a car and drive.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, I would too, except for the last time I did a baby car ride, can't really drive to. Australia. No, no, you can't.

Jay Franze:

You could take a really long cruise have one of those boats or one of those cars that turns into a boat, yeah, a duck boat. That would be awesome no, they make the cars that do it too. What do they call?

Tiffany Mason:

them amphibious vehicles. Oh sure, yes, yes yeah, I won't.

Jay Franze:

You know. When people talk about cars and stuff, those are the type of cars I want, ones that are truly different.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, if you go on the road with Jelly Roll, it could be a gift from him. It's a little bit more expensive than a Nintendo Switch, but Maybe it's Post Malone that I have to go out with. Right, because he did the Rolex, he did. He didn't do the rolex, that was jason.

Jay Franze:

Oh right, right, right, post malone gives the big tips, the 70 000 tip and stuff. So I mean yeah, that's for a stranger. He met in a restaurant. I wonder what he would do for somebody working for him and all you want is an amphibious car yeah it's fine it's not a big deal, right, it can't be that expensive, whatever.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, going along with all of our australian excitement for country music, mr morgan wallen himself may be returning to australia in 2026. At this point, he's only teasing. Everything is teasing.

Jay Franze:

Hinting. Isn't that what we said the other day? I know I think last week.

Tiffany Mason:

I said hinting, but I think the real word is teasing.

Jay Franze:

I think they're always saying something's being teased. What my wife does to me all the time.

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, so stay tuned. We'll see if he's going to get there in 2026 or not all right, you know what?

Jay Franze:

um jelly roll just hinted that he's going there teased, did he tease? He teased it. His wife was heard on her podcast saying that know his plans to go there, for I think it was 60 days or something which is insinuating that he's going to be on tour there. Yeah, oh yeah, you know how. I know that it was on. Katie's news brief today. I was wondering how I knew that. It's because I don't listen to her podcast. I'm like huh. How did I know that?

Tiffany Mason:

That's pretty cool. If an Australian DJ is teasing about it, then it's probably more realistic than not. Yeah, I think if I was an actual DJ, that would be really hard for me not to slip Start lying or telling stories.

Jay Franze:

Oh yeah, keith Urban's going to be playing here tomorrow.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I told you I was a terrible liar, right? So one of my kids would be like, hey mom, when are they coming? And I would probably be like, oh, this day and that day. And they'd be like, ah, I wasn't supposed to say anything. I'd be a bad DJ in that respect.

Jay Franze:

All right, let's move on to recommendations. I'd be a bad DJ in that respect.

Tiffany Mason:

All right, let's move on to recommendations, recommendations.

Jay Franze:

Recommendations. Last week you recommended that I listen to Scotty McCreary Bottle Rockets, which I did, so I enjoyed it. It was a fun song.

Tiffany Mason:

It's just like a perfect summer song. Yeah, you know kids falling in love, and I love the collaboration with him and Hootie Blowfish.

Jay Franze:

Now I got a bone to pick with you. I asked you last week I said was it a sample or did they re-sing it? Because I heard they re-sang it and you told me it was a sample and I went and looked it up and they re-sang it and he told me it was a sample and I went and looked it up and they re-sang it.

Tiffany Mason:

That's what made it a collaboration versus a sample. Oh, I did not know that.

Jay Franze:

I just want to hear you say it.

Tiffany Mason:

You were right, Jay.

Jay Franze:

Well, thank you, it's not often. I get to hear a woman say that my wife never says that.

Tiffany Mason:

Well, I like it even more that it was a true collaboration, because that's what I thought was so cool is that Darius Rucker was singing Hootie and the Blowfish as a collaboration with another current artist, like I don't know. I just thought the whole thing was. I believe you know sometimes when you see a commercial you're like I see what you did there. It's kind of like that feeling to me.

Jay Franze:

The actual band sang it.

Tiffany Mason:

That's so cool it's very cool. I'm very impressed by that I am too love it, so yes, like you said, it was a the perfect summertime song.

Jay Franze:

I liked it. I liked the collaboration. Can you say it was cheesy?

Tiffany Mason:

maybe, but country music borders on cheesy sometimes when she made me pull out my guitar and say oh, my hand.

Jay Franze:

Sometimes clever and cheesy kind of fall.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, they collide. Yeah, I can see where you're saying that but I liked it a lot.

Jay Franze:

I think that's right on the border of it.

Tiffany Mason:

It's on the cusp.

Jay Franze:

And I think we talked about the other songs in the past, you know, referencing Guns N' Roses and stuff. Yes, so it's one of those trends that goes through in Nashville when somebody gets something, they jump on it.

Tiffany Mason:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

But I actually think this is better than the other.

Tiffany Mason:

Okay and well, it's better because it's like the actual people Like if Guns N' Roses was on there singing Don't Cry a whole horror. Paradise City, Right, yeah.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, that would be a good one for Carrie Underwood.

Tiffany Mason:

Ooh, good, call Holy crap. You better call her people.

Jay Franze:

Carrie, if you want to work on that, reach out. You have my number. I know a good sound engineer Just saying All right, so yeah, so I thought it was definitely a good recommendation. I did enjoy it, but we mentioned last week an artist that you did not hear of, so I would like to recommend for you to go check out Mr Zane Williams. He was on the underrated male vocalist list.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, sure, okay.

Jay Franze:

So you had not heard of him and I mentioned that he is a really talented songwriter and artist and I met him at the beginning of his career Super, super nice guy. So please check him out, see what you think and let us know.

Tiffany Mason:

I'm sure I will be singing his praises next week this time.

Jay Franze:

Will you be singing?

Tiffany Mason:

It's likely.

Jay Franze:

Sad part is it is likely.

Tiffany Mason:

Everything reminds me of a song, like just all day long, and I have to keep it to myself. I have to keep it bottled up every time, every night here yes, I've held it in all day long all week long.

Jay Franze:

It's fine, because you know what I wish I could sing. If I could sing, I'd be doing it as well. But I can't say let's be real.

Tiffany Mason:

There's no part of it that shows I can sing Jay.

Jay Franze:

Well, let's rephrase it you have the courage to do it on air. So, even if I could, the fact that I can't sing and I don't have the courage to do it on air, I can sing, but it's all. One note I sing everywhere.

Tiffany Mason:

No, I sing. You know they say like laugh like nobody's watching, dance like nobody's watching, whatever the sayings are, you know, I'm just singing, my little heart just overflows and I just got to get it out.

Jay Franze:

That was your song earlier.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh, I Hope you Dance.

Jay Franze:

I Hope you Dance by Leigh-Anne Womack.

Tiffany Mason:

That's what I said.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I was just reiterating Thank you All right Before we go too far off the rails what do you get going on?

Tiffany Mason:

this week we had another episode come out for our new networking podcast, the Link Up Lounge.

Jay Franze:

Not for swingers for networking the Hook Up Lounge right. Is that what it is?

Tiffany Mason:

The Hook Up Lounge for swingers for networking hookup lounge. Right, it almost sounded like you said the hookah lounge yeah, no, the hookup, hookup lounge for swingers no, it's the link up lounge for networkers. Same thing right no, no, but we talked about having confidence and I clearly exude confidence when I break out in a song Swingers are probably the most confident people in the world. Well, I don't know, I'm not a swinger, but I'm pretty darn confident.

Jay Franze:

Maybe you could be a swinger.

Tiffany Mason:

Maybe if I could share my husband, but but I can't bitch.

Jay Franze:

Better take her fingers off you were willing to share them with me last week. What was it, prince charming?

Tiffany Mason:

on my phone oh, oh, did I share his contact with you and it was charming. Just saying that's, that's funny. That's funny. He is Prince Charming on my phone. For everybody who doesn't know, he's in there with a dual meaning though, and he knows it. So sometimes when he calls, I'm like, oh, it's my little Prince Charming, what does he need? And I, you know hello. And then other times he calls me and I'm like, oh, prince Charming himself, what does he want now?

Jay Franze:

See, you know why? Because he's been married for more than four years.

Tiffany Mason:

A lot more. Yeah, you're old 25 years in December Nice. 25 years. I know I'm still hung up on the guy Like it's kind of incredible.

Jay Franze:

In December.

Tiffany Mason:

Yep.

Jay Franze:

Our anniversary's in October, not mine and yours. Mine and my wife Thank.

Tiffany Mason:

God, because I didn't know, we got married.

Jay Franze:

See You're swinging Mine and my wife. We're October 24th, but this year will be 16.

Tiffany Mason:

Oh wow, you guys are in the thick of it.

Jay Franze:

Move on. What else you got going on?

Tiffany Mason:

I heard Well, Jay, I am going to be a bachelorette this weekend. I get the house all to myself. Wait, the swingers Nope. But my husband and my daughter are leaving early tomorrow morning. They're going to head down to Miami. They're going to take in the Morgan Wallen concert and I was really bummed out when I heard that Miranda Lambert's going to be opening for him.

Jay Franze:

And.

Tiffany Mason:

Gavin Adcock yeah, I thought it was going to be Ann Wilson, but it's Miranda Lambert, that's what the tickets say. And also Gavin Adcock. And I'm kind of surprised by that, or not surprised, I'm kind of jealous by that, because I remember seeing his name all over when we were at CMA Fest and I was like, oh, I got to check him out. Oh, I got to check him out. Well, now she's going to get to check him out before me. So you know, whatever it's fine, but then they're actually going to have one for a couple days.

Jay Franze:

Whatever, it's fine. It's not like my wife, he probably stinks anyway, yeah, yes.

Tiffany Mason:

So I got to take the trip with Hannah up to Nashville, so he's going to take a trip down. And I said what is this Are we taking separate vacations now? Yes, but it works out good for our dogs. So that's just another expense. So that's just another expense.

Jay Franze:

We do the same thing. We have to board the dogs yeah. We don't board them, we just leave them Put out enough food. Put a few pee pads down. They should be fine.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, hope they're still alive when you get back. It makes sense. We have two, so that should be fun, and we're about to get a third. I know.

Jay Franze:

Because we have two pets and now my daughter's getting a service dog, so, oh, we're gonna have a lot of dogs and the service dog's gonna be big. Yeah, a big dog. It's gonna be like having another person in the house uh-huh, after one of the hurricanes.

Tiffany Mason:

Um, they have relocated some of the dogs from south florida up here to north florida and so we thought, okay, well, let's see.

Tiffany Mason:

You know we already have two dogs as well, but our dogs are short so they don't like jump up on stuff. Their tail doesn't wag and hit stuff, they don't anything. So we tried to have this dog come stay with us and I said we've got to try it, though Like I'm not sure we can do this. So we brought the dog home and he scared the living daylights out of our middle kid, and our oldest kid thought he was cool but didn't want to help with him at all, and hannah just did not like him. So after, I think, five days and a very, very, very scary encounter at the dog park, I was like no, I'm not doing this, I'm out. No, thank you. So we did return him, felt terrible about it because I never want to tease a dog like that and we are dog lovers, but it would not have been a fun life with him in our house. We didn't have room for one more.

Jay Franze:

All right. Well, let's see this week. Last Monday, a couple days ago, was it we?

Tiffany Mason:

talked to a band called Gradience.

Jay Franze:

The two of us you joined.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah, you remembered.

Jay Franze:

You showed up.

Tiffany Mason:

I know it wasn't even a Wednesday it wasn't even a Wednesday A band called Gradients.

Jay Franze:

They gave that rock feel to them. So it was a very good group of guys From your neck of the woods, minnesota. Yes, minnesota, even though you claim it as home, but that's all right Second home. But they were a bunch of nice guys to talk to. It was fun, a good time.

Tiffany Mason:

So I thought it was cool that they all went to school for music, which made it so that they could produce their own music.

Jay Franze:

Yes, I mean how cool is that they went to audio engineering school which was very cool Because they said that they went to college and they all met in college, which you know. You think that they're sitting in some English class in science or something. Yeah, but no, they went to an audio engineering school in Minnesota which is no longer active. That program is no longer part of the school, which unfortunately happens. It's a very niche program, but there are schools that specialize in it, so Like Full Sail.

Jay Franze:

Like Full Sail, like SAE, the conservatory, and then you get the big school like Berkeley, berkeley College of Music. But they can afford to keep a production program going because they have their traditional instrumentation programs going, because even full sale and sae have expanded to like multimedia production and graphics and those type of things yeah which is sad, but the original, the recording, the recording workshop. They still have audio production as well. That's a small school. It's like a five-week program.

Tiffany Mason:

Yeah. But it's still a cool school so if people tune in they get to hear Darian and Ford and Trevor and John from the band Radiance.

Jay Franze:

I was impressed that you were going there and you did it. You pulled it out. I'm impressed with you. Oh, I don't know. I love the fact that your mind is as warped as mine. I don't know.

Tiffany Mason:

This is a lot of tangents. It's a problem most of the time.

Jay Franze:

A lot of left turns Pretty cool, all right. Well, we have reached the top of the time A lot of left turns. Pretty cool, all right. Well, we have reached the top of the hour, have we? Yes, two for a second time. We have reached the top of the hour times two, which does mean we have ended the show twice. So if you've enjoyed the show multiple times, please tell a friend, and if you haven't well Tell two.

Jay Franze:

Tell multiple friends. You can reach out to both of us over at jayfranze. com, as always, where we would be happy to keep this conversation going. You can also find links to social media, random pictures and whatever else we decide to put up there for you. All right, my friend, why don't you go ahead and hit us with some final words, so we can get out of here?

Tiffany Mason:

Yes, we'll keep creating, keep collaborating and keep showing up on that note.

Jay Franze:

Folks have a good night.

Tony Scott:

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