Jay Franze: 0:45

And we are coming to you live. I am Jay Franzi, and uh with me tonight, uh Watson to my Sherlock, my beautiful co-host, Tiffany Mason.

Tiffany Mason: 0:57

I was trying to think of something clever, but all that was coming to my head was my dear Watson.

Jay Franze: 1:01

Don't hurt yourself. Don't hurt yourself. If you are new to the show, this is your source for the latest news, reviews, and interviews. And if you would like to join in, comment, or fire off any questions, please head over to jfranzyn.com. All right, my friend, before we get started, let me tell you about the question of the day. The question of the day. Left turn right out of the gate. Name a singer. Name a singer who's achieved success even though they may not have the best voice. Name a singer who's achieved. Oh, not you achieved success, even though they may not have the best voice. Do not give me your answer now. Save it to a little later in the episode. And if you would like to have your comments read, if you would like to join our shenanigans, go ahead and put your comments in the comment section. Send them our way, and we will read those, possibly a little later in the episode. All right. Let's get this thing rolling. Let's start with an article I came across this week. Nineteen country artists, 19 artists who have simply disappeared.

Tiffany Mason: 2:15

Where'd they go?

Jay Franze: 2:16

19 country artists who have just fallen off the face of the earth.

Tiffany Mason: 2:20

All right. Let me hear.

Jay Franze: 2:21

All right.

Tiffany Mason: 2:22

Let me see if I know where they are.

Jay Franze: 2:26

All right. First one. Cindy Thompson. Now I love Cindy Thompson.

Tiffany Mason: 2:33

I don't know Cindy Thompson.

Jay Franze: 2:34

She's a very beautiful girl. Very beautiful. However, I don't know how many records she had, but I had one record of hers. She had a number one hit and gone. Go back.

Tiffany Mason: 2:46

Do you remember her number one hit?

Jay Franze: 2:47

What I really meant to say.

Tiffany Mason: 2:52

And she was good looking, and that's how you remembered her?

Jay Franze: 2:56

What I really meant to say is yes, I do remember the number one hit. The number one hit is what I really meant to say. And she is good looking. She's a very, very beautiful girl. Talking to her for a little bit to see if she would come on the show.

Tiffany Mason: 3:10

Oh.

Jay Franze: 3:10

Because I know this article says she's disappeared. And she did. She disappeared for a while, but she is coming back. She is releasing new music as we speak.

Tiffany Mason: 3:21

Oh wow. Okay, well, resurfacing.

Jay Franze: 3:24

There you go. Let's move on to the next one. Ricochet. Ricochet was a country band in the the 90s. Late 90s.

Tiffany Mason: 3:36

You know what? They're one-hit wonders, I bet I know their songs, but not their name.

Jay Franze: 3:40

Oh, you don't know Ricochet either? Daddy's Money. No? Okay.

Tiffany Mason: 3:47

Her daddy's money? Her mama's good looks? Nope.

Jay Franze: 3:51

Alrighty then, folks. Moving on to the next one. The Wreckers. Ooh, they were good. Do you remember the Wreckers? No? Okay, fantastic. Leaving the pieces in my oh my.

Tiffany Mason: 4:13

Oh. I don't know.

Jay Franze: 4:15

It was Michelle Branch and Jessica Harp.

Tiffany Mason: 4:19

I like Michelle Branch. Uh she did not always do country.

Jay Franze: 4:23

Well, she was a pop star.

Tiffany Mason: 4:25

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 4:26

And she joined with Miss Jessica here and did a country band.

Tiffany Mason: 4:32

Oh, okay.

Jay Franze: 4:34

You know, they did not continue it after that. But they did have some success with it.

Tiffany Mason: 4:40

Okay.

Jay Franze: 4:41

This one, yeah, I can understand completely. Cletus T. Judd. No? I love you so much.

Tiffany Mason: 4:50

Was he the brother to the Judd sisters?

Jay Franze: 4:52

Yeah, no.

Tiffany Mason: 4:53

I don't even think the Juds were sisters, right? The mom and the daughter.

Jay Franze: 5:00

Anyways, he he was more of a comedian style singer.

Tiffany Mason: 5:05

Oh.

Jay Franze: 5:05

He paired up with Toby Keith.

Tiffany Mason: 5:08

Hmm. I mean, the name does sound familiar, but I don't know.

Jay Franze: 5:12

They sang the song Um I Love NASCAR.

Tiffany Mason: 5:15

Okay.

Jay Franze: 5:16

I don't take anything that they did, you know, as being too um too serious.

Tiffany Mason: 5:22

Okay.

Jay Franze: 5:23

He did um one with Kenny Chesney. You know, she thinks my tractor's sexy. Yeah. He did um My Cellmate Thinks I'm Sexy.

Tiffany Mason: 5:32

That's funny.

Jay Franze: 5:36

Dina Carter. I didn't realize she had gone anywhere. She's awesome.

Tiffany Mason: 5:42

I mean, we kind of only heard strawberry wine from her, right? And then she gone.

Jay Franze: 5:48

Very first number one hit. And while it's also a karaoke hit in downtown Nashville.

Tiffany Mason: 5:55

I believe that.

Jay Franze: 5:57

Do you know that there is a bar in Nashville? I don't know if it still exists, but there's a karaoke bar that did naked karaoke.

Tiffany Mason: 6:06

No. Is that the one we walked by?

Jay Franze: 6:09

No, that was a whole different type of bar. It wasn't a strip club for those listening. It was a bar. We walked by and there was some girl standing on the bar, and all of a sudden, you know, with our children there watching this girl thinking she was gonna sing something or do something, and she did. She got naked.

Tiffany Mason: 6:27

She did something.

Jay Franze: 6:29

She did a whole lot of something.

Tiffany Mason: 6:30

Burn our retinas.

Jay Franze: 6:34

It was alright. Alright, next, Bobby Gentry. Bobby with an IE. I know you don't seem to care about that stuff, but does insinuate that it is a woman.

Tiffany Mason: 6:46

Oh.

Jay Franze: 6:47

It is, in fact, a woman.

Tiffany Mason: 6:48

Oh.

Jay Franze: 6:49

She's um the homecoming queen?

Tiffany Mason: 6:51

Bobby Gentry, the homecoming queen.

Jay Franze: 6:53

She's a pretty good looking woman. She's dressed in a 60s, like, I don't know what kind of outfit you would call it, but it's a 60s outfit. And um she sang the song Old to Billy Joe. No? Ode. Is it Ode? Ode to Billy Joe. Ode. Ode. Ode. Ode to Billy Joe.

Tiffany Mason: 7:17

Ode.

Jay Franze: 7:18

Not our Billy Joe. But Billy Joe with an E. Alright. Moving on. Yeah. Sounds good. Black hawk. Black hawk. Gotta be very careful. Working on my diction. They were big in the 90s. I see. Oh, and off the rails we go. Goodbye, says it all. No?

Tiffany Mason: 7:49

Goodbye. Yeah, I know it. Yeah, I know it.

Jay Franze: 7:51

Okay. Yeah. I think I just recently saw them.

Tiffany Mason: 7:55

I think you did too.

Jay Franze: 7:59

I did. I I went to um the garage. Ludlow Garage. I went to this garage bar to see them perform. And it's an odd garage. You had to walk down a flight of stairs to get to the venue portion, and it's in an L, and there's a like a wall in between, and half the audience is on one side and half the audience is on the other.

Tiffany Mason: 8:23

Yes, you definitely told us about this. Yes.

Jay Franze: 8:26

So I went to see them and I went with a good friend of mine, Dina, a woman from work.

Tiffany Mason: 8:31

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 8:32

I have to say good friend because otherwise, you know, my wife might think it was a date. It wasn't a date. I mean, we just made out a little. No wife, just a joke. Just a joke. Next, Chris Cagle.

Tiffany Mason: 8:47

This thing too sounds familiar to me. What is the song?

Jay Franze: 8:50

Chicks Dig It.

Tiffany Mason: 8:52

Oh, yeah. Because the chicks dig it.

Jay Franze: 8:56

He also had another song, I breathe in, I breathe out.

Tiffany Mason: 9:01

This sounds familiar too.

Jay Franze: 9:04

I'd sing it to you, but well, we all know how that goes.

Tiffany Mason: 9:09

Well, there's a reason I sing very short portions.

Jay Franze: 9:13

Yeah, because I cut you off. Next, Jessica Andrews. Who am I? It was a number one single. And then poof.

Tiffany Mason: 9:25

Gone. Goodbye, Jessica.

Jay Franze: 9:28

Goodbye, Jessica. Next on the list is one that I don't believe should be on the list. I know we talked about Cindy Thompson earlier, but I don't believe this one should be on the list. Okay. John Michael Montgomery.

Tiffany Mason: 9:42

Uh new.

Jay Franze: 9:43

I mean, he might not be doing much right now, but I don't think he fell off the earth. Everybody knows who he is. He was around for quite a while and he had some great songs.

Tiffany Mason: 9:52

I think he also did an event somewhat recently that we reported.

Jay Franze: 9:56

His son definitely did one. I think I told you I went to the breakfast with the governor.

Tiffany Mason: 10:02

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 10:03

Yeah. He was there.

Tiffany Mason: 10:05

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

Jay Franze: 10:07

Before anybody gets their panties in a wad. It was one of many tables with the governor there. It's not like I had a one-on-one breakfast with the governor. I like the picture. The background shows a bass player, and the bass player is playing a Michael Tobias bass. Michael Tobias, by far, the best bass manufacturer ever. He custom made two basses for me, an acoustic and an electric.

Tiffany Mason: 10:34

I was watching a special on Tom Petty, and he was talking about when he got a Takamini, and I felt good because I knew what a Takamini was.

Jay Franze: 10:46

I never thought much of Takamini until I started working with Jim, and man, that man can make that thing sing. He was really, really good. I miss working with Jim. I think Jim has moved to Georgia. If he hasn't, he's on his way.

Tiffany Mason: 11:04

On his midnight train to Georgia. Yeah, enough of that.

Jay Franze: 11:09

Next, Carly McLean. This is one I am not familiar with. This was in the 80s. The song is Who's Cheating Who? I remember the song.

Tiffany Mason: 11:19

Oh yeah.

Jay Franze: 11:21

I just don't remember her name or I remember the song for sure. Yeah. She also had um Sleeping with the Radio on.

Tiffany Mason: 11:30

I don't know if I knew that one.

Jay Franze: 11:32

Alright. Shall we end it with? End it with Chad Brock. Talk about a name, huh? Chad Brock. Hi, I'm Chad Brock. Chad Brock. He had a song. What was it? Yes. Just simple yes. Judging by that look, it's no. What else did he have? I don't remember. Ordinary love. Ordinary love. How come you always remember the second you say I don't remember? Is that like a trigger?

Tiffany Mason: 12:11

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Jay Franze: 12:13

All right. Chad Brock, thank you for ending the list with us tonight.

Tiffany Mason: 12:19

Well, good news. Vince Gill will be receiving the CMA's Nellie Wilson's Lifetime Achievement Honor. The country icon has been tapped for the 2025 award, recognizing his decades of impact, 30 plus million records sold and 22 Grammys. Now, I ask you, Jay, do you know what the qualifications are to get this award?

Jay Franze: 12:42

Why don't you tell us?

Tiffany Mason: 12:44

Okay. The artist must be an iconic figure in country music who has achieved the highest degree of recognition and has positively impacted the genre's growth through combination of their career and accomplishments. Key qualifications include national and international prominence from concert performances, humanitarian efforts, philanthropy. It's a big word with a lot of syllables. Record sales and public representation at a high level. But anyways, I thought that was kind of interesting. You know, I'm always curious how do people get nominated for it?

Jay Franze: 13:18

So record labels.

Tiffany Mason: 13:20

Record labels.

Jay Franze: 13:21

Record labels are the ones typically nominating their artists. He's a great artist. I um dated his background singer, one of his background singers. And I never had the opportunity to meet him.

Tiffany Mason: 13:34

Not a very good girlfriend.

Jay Franze: 13:35

She wasn't, that's why I get rid of her. Kicked it in the curb right then and there.

Tiffany Mason: 13:39

You are not going to introduce me to Vince. No.

Jay Franze: 13:42

Bye. But Billy Joe Jones, she posted a picture with Vince Gill just recently up on her up on the gram. So she got a chance to meet him.

Tiffany Mason: 13:53

That's cool.

Jay Franze: 13:54

I don't know.

Tiffany Mason: 13:54

She was just nominated for an award, I think, and she's probably at one of those awards.

Jay Franze: 13:58

The Josie Awards.

Tiffany Mason: 13:59

Yes. I wonder if his impact and record sales are from Go High Up on the Mountain. Amy has brought to our attention many times.

Jay Franze: 14:11

Tell us, Amy. Nice. I never met Amy either. I did get to go see her perform in New York.

Tiffany Mason: 14:20

Oh.

Jay Franze: 14:21

She was nice enough to do that for me, but I never got to see her. That same girl that was background singers for Vince was also background singers for Amy. Go figure.

Tiffany Mason: 14:30

Go figure.

Jay Franze: 14:31

She was very good. She was a very good performer. Amy, not the girlfriend. She was all right.

Tiffany Mason: 14:36

She's I'm all right.

Jay Franze: 14:37

She was very good. Very good.

Tiffany Mason: 14:41

Okay. Well, uh, we were talking before in the green room, Jay and I, about some AI music. And then mom brought up Matt making his AI songs. And now you guys, I mean, Jay called this like last week or two weeks ago when we shared that song that I wrote for my sister. We talked about AI. And I think you had said it won't be very long before they're on the charts or something to that extent. And now it's happened. So AI breaks ground in country, breaking Rust's walk the walk, hit number one digital song. I kind of felt like it has like a little bit of a shabboozy feel to it, a little bluesy feel to it, but it's a completely artificially powered act that is topping major chart, pointing towards a new frontier in the genre. And I really freaking hope not, because the voices are not on point for this music yet. They're good, they're close. I can't have radio sounding like that, though. It's very like tinny or distorted. I can't have that. That can't be my main says no, folks.

Jay Franze: 15:54

No, I think it it's impressive that somebody was able to do it.

Tiffany Mason: 15:59

Yeah. I will say that voice in that walk the walk song is better than a lot of the voices I've heard in the the AI songs up to this point, which have just been yours.

Jay Franze: 16:12

So what you're saying is mine suck. I got it.

Tiffany Mason: 16:15

No, no, they're really good. And you don't have anything to do with the voice necessarily, but that last one that you just played for me, that voice was really good. The uh cerebello one. So it's not long. I mean, it doesn't take AI very long to adapt and adjust, and so you know, next week it'll be better.

Jay Franze: 16:35

That was another thing. AI is gonna be around for quite some time because they just struck a deal with all the record labels.

Tiffany Mason: 16:41

Oh crap.

Jay Franze: 16:42

So be prepared, folks. Mark my words right here now.

Tiffany Mason: 16:47

Right here.

Jay Franze: 16:48

AI is gonna be around for quite some time, not just in general, but I mean in the music industry, it's gonna become a huge portion of the creative piece.

Tiffany Mason: 16:57

Well, um, I'm gonna oh no, it is, it's our next song. Our next news story. These tie in. So the next news story is that Jason Aldean drops massive new album, Songs About Us, featuring his wife Brittany, Luke Bryant, and more. The 20-track set is stacked with collaborators and signals a big move for Aldean's catalog of the next year. And I was thinking to myself, like, this feels like a new trend, right? Because the Morgan Wallen albums came out and it was 36 songs. This is coming out with 20 songs. I wonder if the more AI we have available to us, it's like the faster we all learn and the faster we can do things. So it's helping to create music faster, thus helping to output more music. It just got me thinking. I wonder if that'll become kind of a new trend because vinyl is kind of making a resurgence, but it didn't phase Morgan to put out three records to accommodate that.

Jay Franze: 17:58

So my wife said something like that to me this week. She said, How are you finding the time to write so many songs? Because I've written probably seven, eight, nine songs maybe this week. And I think it's like what you said, it's by not having to take the time to hire musicians and go into a recording studio and go through the entire process, utilizing AI to do some of that stuff for me has allowed that process to go quicker. And then you're still in the groove, and then you can go to the next one and the next one. And it keeps your mind focused on the actual writing process rather than writing and then going into production.

Tiffany Mason: 18:39

Well, and how much more rewarding is that for you, too?

Jay Franze: 18:42

I enjoy it much more. Now, granted, the production pieces what I had my whole career on is producing records.

Tiffany Mason: 18:49

Right.

Jay Franze: 18:50

However, as a songwriter, it's much easier and keeps me in the flow much more. And I find it helps my lyric writing more because I can stay focused on writing lyrics, and then I just move right on to the next one, and I'm kind of like flowing and learning from one song to the next song.

Tiffany Mason: 19:08

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 19:09

Rather than feeling like I start over every song.

Tiffany Mason: 19:12

Right. Right. I just think like uh you start the process and then you have a finished product, and then you start the process and you have a finished product. Like, how fun and rewarding is that? You know, like microwave society or like you know, instant gratification. Yeah, you put a little work into it and you get a final product. It's pretty cool.

Jay Franze: 19:30

Well, I really think it's been a couple of AI weeks here. However, I really think as far as a writing tool, this is fantastic because if you have a set of lyrics and something in mind, you can go ahead and knock it out real quick and say, is it even worth it? Do I like it enough to pursue it? Yes. And it saves you thousands of dollars if you're like, uh, it's not quite what I expected it to be. You don't have to take it in the studio anymore. Saving thousands of dollars. Or if it is something you like, okay, let's go ahead and push it aside for a second and I'll do a few more and see if I like those better. So you can stay in the groove and you can get to something of quality quicker. But the other thing I like about it a lot is if you say you want to try it with a different feel, it's a lot easier.

Tiffany Mason: 20:16

I was just gonna say that.

Jay Franze: 20:18

So if you go in and you record a pop country song and think, oh, you know what, this might have been better as a ballad, then you can just re-prompt it, and now it's the same song as a ballad. So that's great to try a bunch of different things, and then once you hit the exact thing you like, then take it in the studio, then spend the thousands of dollars it's gonna take to produce that song, and now you're never having the regret. Sometimes I've gone in the studio and I've regretted spending the thousands of dollars on this particular song because it didn't turn out the way I thought it was gonna turn out. So this kind of takes that away. So I I think if you use it as a tool like that, I think it's fantastic. Yeah, the other thing, my wife was talking to me the other day and she's like, Well, what at what point do you think it's no longer the person writing the song? And I'm like, Well, if you look at the very basics of writing a song, it's words and music, and then the melody that bridges the two of those together. So words, music with the melody bridging it. So if the person is writing the words, the music, and the melody, then you wrote the song. Doesn't matter if AI is playing the instruments, you wrote the song. I think that's one way of doing it. Or as a lyricist, you can go ahead and just describe what you want played, but at that point you're no longer choosing the chord changes. So if you're describing what you want, but you're not telling it what to play, you might say play an acoustic guitar and play a piano, but you're not saying play the one, four, and five.

Tiffany Mason: 21:53

Right.

Jay Franze: 21:54

You know, and at that point, now AI is a co-writer. And if you don't do the lyrics, the AI just wrote the song and you didn't. It's a slippery slope. That's why we got so much garbage on the internet right now is because people are just hitting create, create. Yeah. And of course, when there's a tool that makes things easy, people find a way to scam it. So people are now taking AI, they're creating hundreds of songs a day, they're posting them all on Spotify and just hoping that people will hit play. And if they hit play, or if you put them in a playlist and you just cycle them over and over and over again while you sleep, those are making them, you know, 13 cents a day or something. But people do it because it's a way of making money. You're scamming the system.

Tiffany Mason: 22:42

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 22:43

Anyway, yeah, I don't like it.

Tiffany Mason: 22:45

I don't like it.

Jay Franze: 22:46

Moving on.

Tiffany Mason: 22:47

Less garbage. Okay, well, let's talk about two people rekindling some romance. So love is back on for Kelsey Ballerini and Chase Stokes. So if your heartbroke when their hearts broke, you forget about it. Okay. After they're split, sources say the country star and actor are giving it another go and doing so with more clarity this time. So we'll see. We'll see if it sticks.

Jay Franze: 23:15

Your mother chimed in with her thoughts on AI.

Tiffany Mason: 23:19

Okay.

Jay Franze: 23:20

You still have to have words to make a song. I think that makes sense because your song where you wrote the words, that's what's making that song special. It's not the fact that AI is the one playing the instruments.

Tiffany Mason: 23:32

Yeah. Well, I think too, like when you got the cassette leaflet, you know, what was most important to you? What did you check out first? And I always checked out the lyrics first. So the lyrics will always be number one to me. So if somebody chose their lyrics, then I think they wrote the song. But you could have a different point of view because for you, the music has always been about the production. So maybe you feel like that cheapens it if that piece is AI.

Jay Franze: 24:02

No. No. I'm with you. I mean, it's words and music. Yeah. So did you write the the words? Did you create the chord changes? If you did, you wrote the song. If AI is creating the chord changes, you co-wrote the song. To me, that's even more important. So words in the chord changes, and then AI can create the melody based on your chord changes. You know, that's no different than hiring a singer and they sing the way they want it to be sung.

Tiffany Mason: 24:32

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 24:33

So it's really the words in the music for sure. I like the way music feels, but the words are the most important piece to me.

Tiffany Mason: 24:41

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, Mr. Jelly Roll turns chef. He's making Wagyu steak, uh, lemon zest in late night kitchen collabs. So the star stepped off the stage and into the kitchen with chef Alex. Yep, Vulkan Vosky, a gourmet cooking chef. That uh it was a more of a PR stunt that was fun. So I think that is a great twist. I mean, he already collaborated with all the uh artists, so now he's got to break into the cooking shows and chefs.

Jay Franze: 25:17

He's insane. He really is. Every every time I turn around, he's there doing something. And most of the time it's something amazing. So I'll give the guy all the credit in the world.

Tiffany Mason: 25:25

Yeah, I agree with that. Well, speaking of Jilly Roll, he has had a rough go. He actually ended up canceling his shows in New Zealand due to illness, saying, please forgive me. The cancellation highlights how demanding the international leg can be, even for one modern country's biggest, one of countries' biggest names. I think that is the thing to remember, right? Like I think we've said it multiple times, but just to remember that they're humans watching Billy Joe Jones on The Road, uh, the show The Road. It was, you know, heartbreaking to see how bad she wanted it, but she was sick. Okay. Well, the next story is a friendship goals, Jamie Johnson. And every time I read this guy's name, I always think of Johnny James. They're flip-flopped. Anyways, Jamie Johnson opens up on his natural connection with Riley Green. So the two Alabama natives, very different career paths. Yet Johnson says their bond and humor make their partnership feel effortless. And I was like, who is James Johnson anyway?

Jay Franze: 26:28

He's a Marine.

Tiffany Mason: 26:29

He's a Marine as well.

Jay Franze: 26:31

Eight-year Marine, yep.

Tiffany Mason: 26:33

Oh. Okay. So he's a Marine, apparently, but he's also an American country music singer, songwriter, known for his blend of outlaw and classic country sounds. He is a Grammy nominated artist who has written hits for other artists, such as George Strait's Give It Away, and is a member of the Grand Old Aubrey. So he's pretty accomplished. Okay, let's talk about Morgan Wallen and Ella Langley.

Jay Franze: 26:57

Yeah, let's talk about them.

Tiffany Mason: 26:58

Okay. He delivered a spine-chilling duet of Cover Me Up. This is one of Hannah's favorite Morgan Wallen songs. The surprise pairing of the two is giving Chris Stapleton's penned ballad a fresh, raw vibration. Fans are buzzing. It is all over social media.

Jay Franze: 27:19

Yeah, he's another crazy dude. We always talk about his shenanigans, which is always fun. But he's another one in the studio that he records in non-traditional ways. He records in the dark, which is not uncommon. A lot of singers do it. What? Yeah, they they record in the dark because I'm sure they're self-conscious. So they don't want anybody seeing them do it. And that's the reason why most people do it. Is that the reason why he does it? I don't know.

Tiffany Mason: 27:51

But can't you just turn around? Couldn't you just put your back?

Jay Franze: 27:54

Well, it depends on the engineer. The engineer has a lot to do with how studios are set up. So when I used to go into a recording studio, depending on the room that we were in, would depend on where I would place the singer because of the the size of the room and the reflections in the room. Am I going to use the room itself as a sound, or am I going to put baffles up or gobos and separate the room, make it feel smaller? So it just depends on the the singer, the type of room that singer is in, and the type of sound we're trying to achieve. So if we're in a big, beautiful studio, in say Oceanway, which is one of the biggest studios in Nashville, it's an old church, so the live room is big and beautiful. And it's very reverberant. So I mean you've got a lot of a lot of reflection. But if you get to a song where you want it to sound personal, you just wrap that singer in in baffles, gobos, which is put these basically foam mattresses up around the singer. And that way when they sing, the mattresses stop that vocal from reflecting.

Tiffany Mason: 29:00

Yeah. Interesting. Okay, well, if you want to check out the duet, it's on social media. Maybe you'll be buzzing after you see it too. Ella Lingley does have a very risque, I guess, kind of little outfit on. It's very cute. So yeah. You know, a little eye candy to look at while they're performing. I don't think that the live version was as good as the recorded version, of course, but you know, it's still good.

Jay Franze: 29:28

I'm like that with everything. I can't think of a single single live performance I ever liked better than the recorded one.

Tiffany Mason: 29:35

Really?

Jay Franze: 29:36

I'm sure there's sometimes. I guess if a singer goes into a studio at the very beginning of working with a particular song, they don't quite have that song mastered yet. Then they go on the road and they master it, and then their performances have the potential of being better than the record. But most of the time I always prefer the record more than I do the live performance.

Tiffany Mason: 29:59

I'll tell you what, there's a couple of songs that I can think of right now that like in person blew my mind, and then I hear them on the radio and they're just like almost flat.

Jay Franze: 30:08

Well, it's also the thing we were talking about the other day, too, is a lot of the music. Even though it might have a hard rockin' feel to it, producers may overproduce. And then even though it's a hard rocking performance, it comes out sounding a little weaker than it should. We need to let the hard rocking performances breathe and let them stay edgy. That's what makes them good.

Tiffany Mason: 30:34

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, Mic Drop on Reality TV, episode four of The Road sees hard cuts, tough choices, and high voltage playlist. With only one spot left, the four performers battle big energy and even bigger nerves under the watchful eyes of Keith Urban and Blake Shelton.

Jay Franze: 30:56

Remind me again who's on the road.

Tiffany Mason: 30:59

Billy Joe Jones.

Jay Franze: 31:00

Thank you.

Tiffany Mason: 31:04

Our hometown favorite. I guess she's not hometown, but you know, our favorite. Our home show favorite. Thank you. Great minds, Jay. Great minds. Sometimes ours. And sometimes ours. Uh yeah, it was great. It was a great episode. Cody just powering through.

Jay Franze: 31:23

Oh, I don't like the fact that they separate the the performers four and four because we didn't get to see Billy perform.

Tiffany Mason: 31:32

Yeah, I don't like that either. I don't like that either. But I think that they made the right call last week when Olivia had to go. And then this week, uh Forrest. You know, they kept telling them to think about Keith Urban's audience and what they want. And, you know, Forrest has got his own very John Prime, I think that's what they said. And I agree with that 100%. Like he's just kind of not the same flavor.

Jay Franze: 31:59

Right. So even though they say think of Keith Urban's audience, would you want him to change who he is? I respect them for staying.

Tiffany Mason: 32:07

Well, no, no, I agree with that. Just wrong competition, great artist, but wrong competition, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that they should stay true to who they are. Yeah. Because that's how they're going to make it in the long run. Right. Their originality.

Jay Franze: 32:23

Moving on to the question of the day. Question of the day. Name a singer who's achieved success, even though they might not have the best of vocals. Name a singer who has achieved success even though they might not have the best voice.

Tiffany Mason: 32:42

And is this a question you came up with, Jay, or was it from a crew member?

Jay Franze: 32:46

Well, thank you for asking. This was submitted by Stefan. I say Stefan because it's Stephen with a Ph.

Tiffany Mason: 32:52

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze: 32:54

Either way, Steven, the one who submitted our question of the day, question of the day being, name a singer who's achieved success, even though they may not have the best voice. Do you want to give yours now, or would you like to wait until later?

Tiffany Mason: 33:07

I mean, I think Tim McGraw came to your mind because that was my answer. So we both say Tim McGraw. And honestly, I'm not really paying that close of attention. Again, I'm all about the words, the lyrics. Like sing it good, sing it bad. I don't know, but I'm gonna sing along with you.

Jay Franze: 33:26

Hey, I'm with you. I I listen to Tim McGraw's, I can listen to his songs all day. I'm perfectly fine with it. He's just not the best of singers.

Tiffany Mason: 33:34

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it's like you talked about in your book, right? Like it's all about your perception. So if you come off as making it and climbing the charts and a big deal, then you're making it and climbing the charts, and you're a big deal. You know, like it's all about perception and how you brand yourself and market yourself.

Jay Franze: 33:55

So and he, you know, Tim McGraw is definitely a big deal. Even though you said, you know, not anymore. I think yes, even still. But moving on, Sarah, Sarah with an H says Willie Nelson. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree with that. Hands down. James says Bob Dylan. I'm willing to bet Bob Dylan's name's gonna come up a lot.

Tiffany Mason: 34:20

Yeah. Well, he was so good for songwriting, right?

Jay Franze: 34:23

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, David says Toby Keith. I like Toby Keith. Oh, Emily. Emily says Miranda Lambert. No, that girl can say I've heard her live.

Tiffany Mason: 34:35

She sounded pretty good, even live.

Jay Franze: 34:37

Yeah. Chris says Luke Bryan. I I disagree with that too. I think Luke Bryan's really good. He might not have the biggest range.

Tiffany Mason: 34:47

Yeah. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 34:48

But he's a good singer and he's got a really good ear.

Tiffany Mason: 34:51

Yeah, you're like AI for me. Like AI will put into words what I'm thinking, or like, ah, that's like they just pulled out right on my head. That's how that felt just now. I was trying to figure out what it was, but it's right. It said his range isn't very wide.

Jay Franze: 35:06

There you go. All right. Sorry, Chris. Hannah. Hannah with an H says Johnny Cash.

Tiffany Mason: 35:15

I was thinking that a lot of older artists might come up because you know there was like a big uproaring when like auto-tuning started getting used, but they used auto-tune because some people weren't very good, even though they were popular.

Jay Franze: 35:33

I could tell you everybody who used auto-tune. Because I was the one tuning them. Even the people who did not need it, which killed me. It would kill me to tune a vocal, even though the person didn't need to be tuned.

Tiffany Mason: 35:47

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 35:48

That happened a lot.

Tiffany Mason: 35:49

Tweak it just to tweak it.

Jay Franze: 35:51

That happened a lot. But that's okay. Pay me, I'll tune it. Alright. We say that, and you say that, but Mike says Jason Aldean. That's a newer artist. I think most country singers are going to be a mid-range, especially the male vocalists. They're not going to have the the largest range. And if they do, they typically don't use it. Because country music doesn't really call for a large range.

Tiffany Mason: 36:22

I feel like country music calls for more of emotion, like more crescendo and then pulling back, and then you know getting rowdy or whatever. So I feel like it calls more for that than a wide range.

Jay Franze: 36:37

Yes. Jason L Dean. That is not his real name. Did you know that?

Tiffany Mason: 36:42

I did not know that.

Jay Franze: 36:43

I think it's Jason L Dine Williams.

Tiffany Mason: 36:47

Hmm. I love Jason L Dean.

Jay Franze: 36:50

Yeah, I like him a lot.

Tiffany Mason: 36:51

I just passed a kidney stone. No. I was gonna say a kid, a kid that I know, and he was playing She's All Country, and I was like, oh man, I love that song.

Jay Franze: 37:03

Rockalooch, my friend. Hate mail goes to Rockalooch at JFranzi.com. As she says, Taylor Swift.

Tiffany Mason: 37:13

Whoa!

Jay Franze: 37:18

Taylor Swift, definitely more of a songwriter than a vocalist. She can sing. Again, maybe not the largest range, but she can sing. And what's good about her vocal is she's like perfect pitch. I mean that girl, she can hit the note all the time.

Tiffany Mason: 37:41

I would say in the beginning, I felt like her voice sounded very shaky to me. Like it just always sounded shaky or shaky or vibrato? No, shaky. Like, I don't know. I don't know, not in a good way. And like a nerve, like she almost sounded nervous. Yeah. But as she's gotten older and clearly perfected the craft, she's polished now.

Jay Franze: 38:05

Yeah. I mean, again, Rockalooch, I can understand if you're talking about range for sure. And she's she says she built her career on heart. On heart, not the high notes. I think that's fair. So it is range. Thank you for clarifying Rockalooch.

Tiffany Mason: 38:24

Well, we talked about branding and marketing again.

Jay Franze: 38:27

Yeah, well, that is the queen right there. The queen of branding and marketing for sure.

Tiffany Mason: 38:34

Yep.

Jay Franze: 38:34

All right, Kevin says Chris Christofferson. It's about the gravel in his throat.

Tiffany Mason: 38:42

Nice.

Jay Franze: 38:43

Oh, Amanda. Amanda says Shania Twain. I would disagree with that. I think Shania Twain is is really good. Even before she she became a superstar, she was performing in Canada like all the time, at like these big resort-style places. And she was belting out some killer cover tunes at the time, too.

Tiffany Mason: 39:08

Yeah, I think she's got a lot of power.

Jay Franze: 39:10

Yeah, I think she's great.

Tiffany Mason: 39:12

But music maybe is like art where it's like, you know, in the eye of the beholder. So it's in the ear of the listener.

Jay Franze: 39:20

I've been trying so hard tonight to bite my tongue in some of these things. Tyler says Blake Shelton. I disagree a hundred percent. That man, again, might not have the the biggest range, but his air is amazing and his pitch is fantastic.

Tiffany Mason: 39:44

I mean, he's one of the judges.

Jay Franze: 39:46

That doesn't necessarily mean anything. But yes, he is a judge and he's a good one. So Sophia says Kelsey Ballerini. Daniel says Tom Petty. Olivia says Reba McIntyre. Another vote by Ryan for Toby Keith. Kelly says Kenny Chesney. Yes, that's an absolutely correct statement. He is Charisma all the way. Ooh. Zach says Kid Rock. That is true. That man, Kid Rock, cannot sing. Oh. I mean, he can't. And I I think he would be the first to tell you he can't. He was brought up rapping and screaming stuff. His pitch is horrible. I mean, it's horrible. He he's got the same pitch I do. I mean, it's bad. Sorry, Kid Rock. Sorry. Oh, Madison. Madison says, the most influential woman in country music. Dolly Parton.

Tiffany Mason: 40:49

What?

Jay Franze: 40:51

Madison says she is not technically strong. She's just nothing but emotion. I don't know. I mean, she's not hitting the Whitney note, but she's she's really good. I mean, really good. I worked on her live record. She's really good live. Again, did not need to be tuned and wasn't tuned. Throwing that out there. I don't think there's any harm in me telling you when somebody wasn't tuned.

Tiffany Mason: 41:26

Right?

Jay Franze: 41:27

Yeah, I won't go throwing people under the bus if they have been tuned.

Tiffany Mason: 41:33

Attorney client privileges.

Jay Franze: 41:35

However, if she hasn't been tuned, I don't see any problem with telling you that.

Tiffany Mason: 41:40

No, I think that's pretty cool.

Jay Franze: 41:42

Alright. Another vote in Justin for Toby Keith, Megan from Miranda Lambert. Connor says Billy Ray Cyrus. Yes, I agree with that.

Tiffany Mason: 41:49

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 41:49

He's the nicest guy in the world, but no, not a strong voice. Ben says Florida Georgia Line. I don't know if I agree with that. Maya Project Music says John Lennon. Hate mail goes to fight and load. Maya Project Music at JFran.com. You know what though? I agree with her. I don't think he's got the strongest voice in the world. He was just a great songwriter and tea and smoke music, says Taylor Swift.

Tiffany Mason: 42:26

I mean.

Jay Franze: 42:30

Alright. Rob says Neil Young.

Tiffany Mason: 42:32

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What was what was the what was the handle?

Jay Franze: 42:36

T and smoke music.

Tiffany Mason: 42:39

I was thinking it was T and Swift music, and I was like, T and Swifty is what they're gonna rip on Swifty?

Jay Franze: 42:46

T E A. T and Smoke Music. Okay. It's all lowercase. It took me a minute to figure out what it was. Taylor Swift. She is the obvious choice.

Tiffany Mason: 42:58

Wow.

Jay Franze: 42:59

Rob says Neil Young Bob Dylan. Charlie. He says Adele, and that is a ridiculous statement, Charlie. Adele's amazing.

Tiffany Mason: 43:11

Yeah. She's got the range, she's got the power, she got the clarity.

Jay Franze: 43:18

Yeah. J Stop63 says Chris Christofferson. Daniel says Madonna. Brissette says Ginger Spice.

Tiffany Mason: 43:36

Not all the Spice Girls, just ginger. Just kick her the curb.

Jay Franze: 43:42

Peter Mold Songs says Mark E. Smith. RM says Brian Johnson of ACDC. Or Paula Abdul or Cindy Lopper. I'm with you all the way up to Cindy Lopper. Yeah. Especially since I just saw her perform at what, 70 something years old? That woman sang like a champ at 70 something years old. And was running around the stage. You could not tell that woman was in her 70s.

Tiffany Mason: 44:17

I was thinking uh watching The Road that Gretchen Wilson, you've always said, as artists get a little bit older, it's harder to hit the higher notes. And I was like, oh girl.

Jay Franze: 44:31

Joe says Justin Bieber. These people I think they're getting carried away, Ty. Justin Bieber, Fred Durst, or Drake. Michael says Bismarcky. Rod says Bob Dylan or Jimmy Buffett. Daniel says Getty Lee. Hmm. He doesn't just say Getty Lee, he says so horrible.

Tiffany Mason: 44:54

Put a little extra jab on that night quest.

Jay Franze: 44:59

James, the James. Our question of the day, James. Not today, but not today. In general. Says don't worry, be happy. Bobby McFarron.

Tiffany Mason: 45:14

Whistle good.

Jay Franze: 45:15

Anthony says Tom Waits. Anthony, thank you. Anthony's here every week. Tom Waits, great songwriter and great singer, like when it comes to emotion, but definitely not a prize-winning singer, let's say. Mark, the Mark, Mark Botellato, we'll say his last name because he has been on the show. Says Bob Dylan or Tom Petty.

Tiffany Mason: 45:42

Yeah, I can see the Tom Petty thing. I mean and Bob Dylan.

Jay Franze: 45:47

Bill says Bob Dylan. Jerry. Jerry Rabus. I'm going to say his last name because his daughter's been on the show. Jerry Ravis, thank you for chiming in, says Willie Nelson. June says Tom Jones. Ricky.

Tiffany Mason: 46:05

Ricky says Garth Brooks.

Jay Franze: 46:11

Sorry, Miss Tiffany. Now, I will stick up for you, Miss Tiffany. Sorry, Ricky. But I'm going to stick up for Miss Tiffany only because Garth Brooks was a demo singer in Nashville for years before he became an artist. And he was a very successful demo singer because of his voice and because of how good he was in the studio. So Michael. Michael's here every week. Thank you, Michael. And he says, Ivan Moody. And I will agree with you 100%. One of my favorite bands, and yet not a very good singer. And Miss Tiffany's looking at me going, I don't know. Five finger death punch.

Tiffany Mason: 46:52

Oh. Yes.

Jay Franze: 46:57

I've seen the perform several times and I love him to death. But he's not the best singer in the world. Michael says Neil Young. And we will end it with Karen, who says Taylor Swift.

Tiffany Mason: 47:13

Man. I think Taylor, Willie, and Taylor got beat up. Toby Keith. Man.

Jay Franze: 47:21

Now she is definitely successful. Like one of the most successful artists ever.

Tiffany Mason: 47:27

Ever.

Jay Franze: 47:28

But I like her voice.

Tiffany Mason: 47:30

I like her voice. Um, I feel like it's very, it's getting very distinct though, because I was watching a show and this was before her Life of a Showgirl album came out. And I was watching it and I was like, God, this sounds so much like Taylor's. I shazammed it. And sure enough, it was Taylor Swift. And it was actually some of her songs before they had been released. So I was like, well, okay, there's definitely a it's almost like an airy tonality, I guess, to a lot of her music.

Jay Franze: 47:59

I like her. To me, when I hear a singer, I resonate more with somebody who just sings the song and conveys the message. I don't need the high notes or the fancy trills and stuff. Yeah. That's what I really don't like about pop singers who are constantly showing off their ability, like Mariah Carey style. She's got one of the most beautiful voices in the world. Just sing the song. I don't want to hear all the acrobatics.

Tiffany Mason: 48:27

Yeah, sometimes I do want to hear them.

Jay Franze: 48:29

I mean there may be a place for it.

Tiffany Mason: 48:32

Yeah. But not every song.

Jay Franze: 48:35

I don't think it should be showcased on every song. You know, maybe save it for the stage when you can show us that you truly have the ability to sing. But do what's right for the song, not what's right for your voice. I like the voices like the Toby Keith's or even the Tim McGraw. His voice is pleasing. It's nice to listen to. Yes. You know, it may not be the most technically proficient, can't do all the acrobatics, but it's pleasing to listen to it.

Tiffany Mason: 49:04

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 49:05

So I would rather have that. Same thing with Five Finger Death Punch. Ivan Moody there, Michael just said, I think his voice is very pleasant to listen to. So what if it takes him 20 takes to get it right?

Tiffany Mason: 49:18

We weren't in the studio. Who cares?

Jay Franze: 49:20

I'm not worried about that part. I'm listening to the final product. And trust me, I've been in the studio when singers take hundreds of takes to get it right.

Tiffany Mason: 49:27

Oh.

Jay Franze: 49:28

Hundreds. Hundreds. No exaggeration whatsoever. Hundreds and hundreds of takes until they get it right.

Tiffany Mason: 49:36

I don't think I could do it because even when I'm just editing audio, like by the tenth time that I'm trying to find like a little glitch and I'm trying to perfect this little glitch. By the if anybody else can hear, I can't handle it more than about four times. I gotta put headphones in because I'm like my family probably wants to hurt me right now. So I can't do it.

Jay Franze: 49:56

My wife used to ask me how you do it live. How can you listen to the same song that many times in a row? It's like, well, I'm mixing it. I'm listening to a different thing every single time I'm working on it.

Tiffany Mason: 50:07

Right, right.

Jay Franze: 50:08

Different piece. I'm just moving on. It's it's constantly there. I'm not even paying attention to the song as a whole yet.

Tiffany Mason: 50:13

Mm-hmm. Right. So I get that. I get that 100%. Who's on the charts, y'all? Debuting at spot 10 is Hudson Westbrook with Housts again.

Jay Franze: 50:28

Okay. Not a bad one.

Tiffany Mason: 50:30

Well, holding strong in spot number nine is Mr. Tucker Wetmore with three two one.

Jay Franze: 50:37

Nice. It's an okay song.

Tiffany Mason: 50:41

It's an okay song. Yeah. Spot number eight, numero ocho, is gonna be Riley Green, Don't Mind If I Do, with Ellett Langley.

Jay Franze: 50:51

I like it a lot.

Tiffany Mason: 50:52

Oh, yes. Okay, I was trying to recall. Yes, I do like this song. Yes. That's him just popping up at eight. He just skipped past nine and ten.

Jay Franze: 51:01

I told him he could take the spot. I'll let him have it.

Tiffany Mason: 51:04

Okay. You're fine for him to share that spot. Okay. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 51:06

He deserved it more than Parker did.

Tiffany Mason: 51:11

Well, Parmalee with Cowgirl, they went from 10 and they just shot right up to 7. So Parmalee with Cowgirl, spot seven. Spot six is going to be Parker McCollum with what kind of man?

Jay Franze: 51:24

Yeah. It's a it's okay, song.

Tiffany Mason: 51:26

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 51:27

I'm okay with him moving up in order to free up spot number eight for Riley.

Tiffany Mason: 51:33

Fair. But we don't want him to take spot five. No. Because right now Laney Wilson's got it. Somewhere over Laredo. Oh. Somewhere over Laredo. I do like Cincinnati, but I decided to stick with the name of the song. Laredo. Cheesy.

Jay Franze: 51:50

Too many times in a row is a little cheesy, Mr. Tiffany.

Tiffany Mason: 51:54

All right. Well, spot number four goes to Mr. Jackson Dean. Havens to Betsy.

Jay Franze: 52:01

Every time. Every time. We just got done saying it's cheesy, Mr. Tiffany. You deserve a button. George, you're fired. Oh, George. Tiffany. You're fired. George has been fired for a while. George, where are you, George? Chime in. Let us know you're there.

Tiffany Mason: 52:16

Somewhere in Arizona. Somewhere over Arizona.

Jay Franze: 52:19

All right, I'll take that. That's that's worthy.

Tiffany Mason: 52:22

Okay, spot number three is going to Morgan Wallen. I got better.

Jay Franze: 52:28

Not really. He went from one to three. He didn't get better. He got worse.

Tiffany Mason: 52:32

I know. Well, I keep laughing because this is that song that I wanted to hate, but I ended up really liking it a lot.

Jay Franze: 52:40

You are a closet Morgan Wallen fan. You have a negative comment every time, but every time you're talking about how much you like it.

Tiffany Mason: 52:48

I know. I know. I love me. I do love Morgan Wallen. I'm not closet. I'm just I'm out in the open. I love Morgan Wallen.

Jay Franze: 52:54

You left the closet.

Tiffany Mason: 52:56

I'm in love. I'm in love. And I don't care. Who knows? Sean. We've already washed shells. Okay. Uh spot number two is going to chase Matthew with Darlin.

Jay Franze: 53:10

Darling.

Tiffany Mason: 53:11

Why does he tell you darling?

Jay Franze: 53:13

My wife got mad at me the other day for using the word darling in a song.

Tiffany Mason: 53:17

Why?

Jay Franze: 53:18

She goes, you would never say darling. I'm like, I'm not the one singing the song.

Tiffany Mason: 53:23

It's a persona. Come on, Jennifer.

Jay Franze: 53:26

Writing for somebody else, not for me. I never, well, I can't say that. I was about to say I never write songs for myself, but I actually wrote a song just recently about myself.

Tiffany Mason: 53:39

Oh my gosh.

Jay Franze: 53:41

Uh-huh. It says, you dumbass, why'd you get married? You dumbass. It's called dumbass.

Tiffany Mason: 53:49

Why'd you have three kids?

Jay Franze: 53:52

Oh, moving on. She might still be awake.

Tiffany Mason: 53:55

Well, we've screwed up spot number two, but spot number one, get yourself ready. Luke comes with back in the saddle.

Jay Franze: 54:12

The ear horns in the same spot George was.

Tiffany Mason: 54:16

Different screen.

Jay Franze: 54:18

Yeah. I'm okay with not having 16 drum rolls. But anyway. Chase Matthews, you deserve a little bit, though. I mean, you do. Thank you.

Tiffany Mason: 54:33

Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Okay, in the indie charts. I'm excited about this one. Spot number 10, perfume on my jersey. He's talking about this girl that he dated, and he can still smell her perfume on his jersey. And I love that. I love when a scent lingers.

Jay Franze: 54:53

So that is the best thing.

Tiffany Mason: 54:56

All right. Spot number nine is going to said no redneck ever by Erin Goodvin. Going to numero 8. Wish you wouldn't go by Ken Domash. Domash. Domash.

Jay Franze: 55:14

Not dumbass. Please don't be confused by Tiffany's, you know, misuse of words.

Tiffany Mason: 55:20

Dialect. Well, spot number seven on the Indie Charts is going to Turn the Night On by Chris Kizia. Again, a song he wrote about me. All right. And our girl Millie Joe. She's in spot six with Billy Joe Jones and Silver. Yes, Billy Joe Jones.

Jay Franze: 55:41

She's moving up, right? Where'd she move from?

Tiffany Mason: 55:43

She's moving up from spot number nine all the way up to six.

Jay Franze: 55:47

Nice. Good for her. Congratulations, Miss Billy Joe Jones. We are very proud of you here.

Tiffany Mason: 55:52

Should be a little bit from her being on the road. Oh, absolutely.

Jay Franze: 55:56

There's no doubt in my mind. However, she has had several number one hits before the road. So never know.

Tiffany Mason: 56:04

Not out of the realm for her.

Jay Franze: 56:07

No. And she just won a Josie Award. Another.

Tiffany Mason: 56:12

Another Josie Award. She's very Joe Jones.

Jay Franze: 56:17

Congratulations, Miss Billy Joe Jones.

Tiffany Mason: 56:21

Okay, holding steady at spot number five is Red, the song Red by Jet Jergensmeyer.

Jay Franze: 56:28

Yes. He doesn't get it today. I'm done. Okay.

Tiffany Mason: 56:32

Okay. I gave you some air room to breathe.

Jay Franze: 56:34

I know. I know you did, and I appreciate you for it. But no, I think that's been played out.

Tiffany Mason: 56:39

Okay. You're gonna hold hold your tongue.

Jay Franze: 56:41

Jergensmein.

Tiffany Mason: 56:47

That's why she said. Can't do it. Okay, moving up from the city. It's gonna be hell. That I call home. Oh. Porter Martin.

Jay Franze: 57:01

That makes sense. Good for you, Porter. You moved up. I'm proud of you.

Tiffany Mason: 57:05

Porter. Hey, Porter. Not the same thing, but in my mind it is. Okay.

Jay Franze: 57:10

Similar but different.

Tiffany Mason: 57:12

I don't know how to say goodbye. Bang, bang, boom, boom. That's one way to say it. Bose Malong.

Jay Franze: 57:18

How do you say goodbye, bang, bang, boom, boom? Oh, I know um Robbie was like, that's on the indie charts. Yeah, it's on the indie charts.

Tiffany Mason: 57:28

Yeah. You wouldn't believe it. Okay.

Jay Franze: 57:33

Now, to be fair, I really don't think it belongs on the indie charts. But it is. It qualifies, it meets the qualifications.

Tiffany Mason: 57:41

It's probably like Dwight's song and post is just the clab on it.

Jay Franze: 57:45

Oh, but Dwight Yookum doesn't belong on the indie charts.

Tiffany Mason: 57:49

Well, he does if he doesn't have a record label.

Jay Franze: 57:51

He's got via records. It's an indie record label. That's the whole thing. It's an indie. He's no longer on a major label.

Tiffany Mason: 57:59

Right. So he gets to be on the thing then.

Jay Franze: 58:02

Charts.

Tiffany Mason: 58:03

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 58:03

He qualifies.

Tiffany Mason: 58:05

Sorry, we don't make the rules. That's just where they just report on them. Yeah. Okay. And spot number two.

Jay Franze: 58:15

Damn, I said I wasn't going to do it, and you tricked me into doing it.

Tiffany Mason: 58:20

Hide and Go Cheat by Eric Lee Bettingfield. And spot number one, staying at spot number one, holding steady, is Pontiac. So tell me, Mama, by Aaron Watson. Just a little bit.

Jay Franze: 58:41

Just a little bit. It's only on the indie charts. Move up to the major label charts and we'll talk.

Tiffany Mason: 58:46

Oh my gosh. Yachty.

Jay Franze: 58:51

All right.

Tiffany Mason: 58:52

What are the crew members saying, Jay?

Jay Franze: 58:55

Colton. I like Colton. Thank you for joining us. I think you've been here once or twice before. Colton says country music does not need to go pop in order to stay relevant. Referring back to your previous episode.

Tiffany Mason: 59:09

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze: 59:10

Yes. Fair statement. I agree. I would rather you go more rock than pop these days. I like the edgier stuff myself. I don't mind a good country pop style song if that's what the song called for. But I don't want you doing it just because you think it's going to help you.

Tiffany Mason: 59:31

Well, I have decided that I really love me some classic rock, and I was born 10 years too late. I should have been born in the early 70s.

Jay Franze: 59:42

Early 70s.

Tiffany Mason: 59:44

Yeah. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 59:46

You're going.

Tiffany Mason: 59:47

Then I would have been around to appreciate a lot of the bands that I like their music now, but I didn't realize that's who it was at the time. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I love I love this song. Oh my gosh, I love this song. And then I realized it's fine.

Jay Franze: 1:00:05

Right. Sixties and seventies.

Tiffany Mason: 1:00:08

Right. But if I was born then, oh born. Yeah, that's true. Right. Right.

Jay Franze: 1:00:13

That makes more sense because then you would have been with me and you, you know, born in the sixties. I was born in the sixties. Can you believe that? I was born in the sixties, folks. 69, to be specific.

Tiffany Mason: 1:00:28

Well, I was born we're exactly 10 years apart, though.

Jay Franze: 1:00:31

I told you that before, but you don't listen to me. Yes. I was born in the 60s, you were born in the 50s. I was born in 69, you were born in 59. We got it.

Tiffany Mason: 1:00:41

Anyway, so I so I I definitely like when the country goes a little bit more rock.

Jay Franze: 1:00:48

I like classic rock a lot. The problem is I'm burnt out on those songs because I listened to them so much back in at that time. That's what I I miss about music these days, is I don't seem to burn myself out on a song or on a record because there's just so much happening. There's just so many things. Even these songs, they're on the charts for like a week or two and then they're gone again. Yeah. So it's a little disappointing, but it is what it is, my friend.

Tiffany Mason: 1:01:17

It's a sign of the times, Jay.

Jay Franze: 1:01:19

Yes. Can you give us a sample of the of a classic rock artist you like?

Tiffany Mason: 1:01:27

Um, well okay. Uh well, the first one that comes to mind, I don't know how classic they are, but Pearl Jam is one of the ones that comes to mind. Um that is not a classic rock, you're fired. No, I know. Stephanie. You're fired. And then I would have liked to have listened to a lot more of the Tom Petty music when they were doing the you know what I should skip to is I I watched the Aussie documentary, and I was like, dang, that's a good song. And then I'm like, oh my gosh, this is why Jay likes Aussie and Black Sabbath so much. And I'm like, I just thought they were heavy metal. I don't know, like just because they were black.

Jay Franze: 1:02:05

The inventors of heavy metal, yes, okay.

Tiffany Mason: 1:02:08

Well, the Aussie songs are really liked, and I was like, oh my gosh, I like this stuff. So I don't know.

Jay Franze: 1:02:16

I'm I'm just having to consider that classic rock either, though. When I think of classic rock, I think of like Bob Seeger, you know, that type.

Tiffany Mason: 1:02:25

Well, I played Tom Petty might fit in there a little bit. Yeah, the other day I played. Oh, I'm drawing a blank, and one song led to another, but uh one was like in the heat of the moment. It was the heat of the moment, you know, and then it went to Jesse's song.

Jay Franze: 1:02:45

Those aren't class, none neither of those are classic rock. Okay, well, Tiffany, you're fired. Those are 80s songs.

Tiffany Mason: 1:02:53

Well, okay, whatever.

Jay Franze: 1:02:54

You would have been fine with Arosmith.

Tiffany Mason: 1:02:57

I yeah, I like Arosmith, Death Leopard.

Jay Franze: 1:03:03

They were like not classic rock.

Tiffany Mason: 1:03:06

I okay. Well, I don't know what to tell you. But I'm just discovering a lot of older music that I'm like, hmm, okay.

Jay Franze: 1:03:14

All right. Sorry, moving on. Jamie. Sorry. Jamie says social media has made more stars than record labels ever have.

Tiffany Mason: 1:03:24

Not yet.

Jay Franze: 1:03:25

I agree. It's close. I mean, they're starting to kick people off all of a sudden.

Tiffany Mason: 1:03:30

Yeah, it's it's getting close.

Jay Franze: 1:03:34

Ariana. A-R-I-A-N-A. Yep. Ariana. Look at that, I got it right.

Tiffany Mason: 1:03:41

I'm so proud of you, Jay. Thank you, Gold Star.

Jay Franze: 1:03:44

We need more duets.

Tiffany Mason: 1:03:47

No.

Jay Franze: 1:03:47

She says, but real ones with actual chemistry, like Kenny and Dolly. There's a lot of duets out there right now.

Tiffany Mason: 1:03:56

A lot of duets, a lot of collaborations, but I I see where she's coming from. It's fun to see real, true chemistry on stage.

Jay Franze: 1:04:02

Especially ones like Kenny and Dolly sang together a lot.

Tiffany Mason: 1:04:06

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:04:07

Like that could have been a a duo in addition to their solo careers.

Tiffany Mason: 1:04:12

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze: 1:04:13

So, yes, I like that. I like that idea. I could go with that. All right. Lila. Ooh, I can just I see the I see the word in the sentence. It's jumping out before I read the sentence. This is gonna be this is gonna go bad, I can tell already. If you need auto-tune, fine. But use it as a tool, not as a mask.

Tiffany Mason: 1:04:44

Yes.

Jay Franze: 1:04:45

I will tell you, I can't stress it enough. I've tuned hundreds of people who don't need to be tuned.

Tiffany Mason: 1:04:53

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:04:54

So Nick, the show feels like Saturday night at a honky tonk. I'll take that. See, that's fun.

Tiffany Mason: 1:05:06

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:05:07

Yeah. I don't even consider myself a country music fan, but I listen to this show every week. That's from Elena.

Tiffany Mason: 1:05:19

So good she can't quit us.

Jay Franze: 1:05:23

Oh. Luke says the mailbag might be my favorite part of the show now. It's like sitting around with the crew after the show.

Tiffany Mason: 1:05:32

Aw, yeah. All right. I think that's what we're going for, right? I hope so, because sure as hell, we're not the smoothest at providing you with the news.

Jay Franze: 1:05:45

Um Ryan, when Jay goes full producer mode and starts talking about studio stories, he says I could listen for hours. Yeah. But he has to do it with a side of sarcasm. All right.

Tiffany Mason: 1:06:02

That's the Bostonian in you.

Jay Franze: 1:06:05

All right, let's end it on this one. Vanessa says, no. Can't end it on a Tiffany comment.

Tiffany Mason: 1:06:18

Oh, yes. Yes. What'd she say? What'd she say?

Jay Franze: 1:06:24

Tiffany's the emotional core of the show. What does that even mean, Vanessa? Emotional core.

Tiffany Mason: 1:06:32

I get it. I'm here for you, Vanessa.

Jay Franze: 1:06:36

Does that have a meaning? What does that mean?

Tiffany Mason: 1:06:40

Like your information, I'm emotion. Is that what it is? I just want to point out you read the news. You're supposed to be information. Yeah, but um, I think that you bring a lot of information to people. Like I haven't worked in a studio, so that's not cool. You know.

Jay Franze: 1:07:00

So you're saying I'm the one providing the little tidbits.

Tiffany Mason: 1:07:03

Yeah, they're not little though, they're big tidbits. I've got big tidbits. You hear that, wife? My tidbits are big. Big tidbits.

Jay Franze: 1:07:17

All right, what do you got going on this week?

Tiffany Mason: 1:07:21

Well, uh, last weekend we actually went and checked out Porch Fest in Jacksonville, Florida in the Springfield district. It's like a historical district. So the houses have been preserved or like restored to, you know, their natural original beauty. And it was really cool because that people literally were performing on these porches. They were kind of like savannah houses where they have the bottom porch and the top porch. So some of them were set up with just the bottom performance with the artist. And then one person had like the artist was performing downstairs and the turntables were upstairs because she was doing like some mixing while she was singing. There were all kinds of genres. There was a couple of different ones where they were just DJs. That was really exciting. It's like a nine-block radius that you can go up and down all these different streets. They're all blocked off. It must be such a pain in the to live on one of those streets because they were lined with cars and people and loud music and tons and tons of vendors and food trucks. But it was really one of the coolest experiences. We were having an awesome weather day. So we walked around, tank top shorts, had very little on, not that sounds weird. Tell me more. But I'm going to say that it was a nice night, weather-wise. We had grabbed jackets and we did not end up using them. We ended up watching this one girl. Well, one girl's name was Annie Duke, and there were two other um porches that had music. And so we went and checked out the other two porches because someone said she's like the female version of Led Zeppelin. And I was like, I don't know. Okay, let's go check out and see what the other two are. Because I was hoping more for country music. And the other two were okay, but one was kind of like EDM. They were just playing um not instruments, but they were just playing turntables, I guess. And the other one was okay, but I don't know. So I was like, well, let's go check out the third one, Annie Duke's, you know, we'll see. And then come to find out, she's like been on the voice, and she had performed the night before at the Panavera concert hall, which is right by us, opening for another artist. And she was pretty good, really. I mean, she had good stage, maybe porch porch presence. And um the all the houses that had somebody performing at them had a sign that was like a wooden sign or like a metal sign that said Porch Fest 2025. So you knew where the acts were going to be throughout the day. It starts at like one o'clock in the afternoon, it goes to like eight o'clock at night. So it's an all-day thing, but it was really cool. And so it was fun to go and watch music. And then I liked Annie Duke's on social media and come to find out some of the local people that I know here also follow her. And so I was like, oh, that's kind of cool that we're all, you know, common interest that they knew about her as well. So that was really fun. And then a big old shout out to my sister, Jenny. Happy birthday, Jenny.

Jay Franze: 1:10:24

My big C Speed Jenny's sister.

Tiffany Mason: 1:10:27

Well, we look the same and we talk the same.

Jay Franze: 1:10:32

Oh, damn City Girls.

Tiffany Mason: 1:10:35

All right, Jay. What are you doing? What are you gonna be up to this weekend?

Jay Franze: 1:10:38

All right, this weekend. Sawyer Brown on Friday at Laurie's Roadhouse and Chase Matthew, Saturday at Bogart's. Anybody wants to go to the show, let me know. Or come by and say hello. I would love to say hi. And then Friday night. Ooh, there's a reason I won't be going to Sawyer Brown. It's homecoming. My daughter, Bella, my 15-year-old, it's her homecoming. And she just bought a new dress tonight.

Tiffany Mason: 1:11:04

I got to see it. It's beautiful.

Jay Franze: 1:11:06

I just bought a new dress tonight. But it is a beautiful dress. It's black dress, floor-length dress with a big old slit down the side, which is probably not going to make me too happy. But nonetheless. I thought maybe the sequence by the top.

Tiffany Mason: 1:11:25

Yes. Bosom coming out of the dress.

Jay Franze: 1:11:27

I don't think I like that either.

Tiffany Mason: 1:11:32

It's fun as they get older. The other day, Hannah was going up the stairs and I was like, Hannah, pull your shorts down. You know, she's at home, just comfy, you know, in the judgment-free zone until her mom. Then she was very embarrassed. I was like, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to embarrass you.

Jay Franze: 1:11:50

My daughter's her shorts are like that all the time. And If I say something, it's like, shut up, dad. No, dad. It's like, well, you're not going outside like that. And then she goes outside like that. I don't know. I don't get it. I don't know, understand what the point of wearing your shorts like a thong is these days, but you know. All right. Shall we crash this thing? We're allowed to crash it again.

Tiffany Mason: 1:12:13

Shall we crash this? Yes.

Jay Franze: 1:12:15

All right.

Tiffany Mason: 1:12:16

We have crash it. We have.

Jay Franze: 1:12:20

We have reached the top of the hour. Hour number dos. So that does mean we have reached the end of the show. If you've enjoyed the show, I said we say this a lot. If you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend. Seriously, if you've enjoyed the show, tell a friend. Please tell a friend. Get some more people involved. We enjoy them.

Tiffany Mason: 1:12:39

We want more people chatting with that.

Jay Franze: 1:12:41

Some more names that I can butcher throughout the episode. And if you have not enjoyed the show, Miss Tiffany.

Tiffany Mason: 1:12:49

Tell two friends. Tell two friends. Tell five friends. Tell everyone. Tell them all. Tell them go see the train wreck. We'll take people who enjoy us and people who hate us. It's fine.

Jay Franze: 1:13:02

And if you've enjoyed it enough to stick around and chat with us, we'll be over at jfrenzy.com. We'll be happy to keep this or any other conversation going. And you can also reach out to us on the socials. Miss Tiffany, do you have any final words for us?

Tiffany Mason: 1:13:19

Of course. Crew members, thank you for hanging out with us today. It's always a joy to be part of your week. We'll be chatting with you on socials until the next episode drops. So don't be a stranger. Take care of yourself, and we'll see you next week.

Jay Franze: 1:13:32

And on that note, folks, have a good night. Thanks for listening to the Jay Franzi Show. Make sure you visit us at JFranzi.com. Follow, connect, and say hello.