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The Jay Franze Show: Country Music - News | Reviews | Interviews
CMA Night Recap, Ruin a Bands Name With One Letter, and Country Music News
A live-sung medley that actually left us breathless. That’s how Lainey Wilson opened a CMA night that felt tighter, braver, and more fun than it’s been in years—and yes, she backed it up with Entertainer of the Year, Album of the Year, and Female Vocalist. We talk about why her solo hosting worked, how she commanded the stage with eight outfit changes, and what her wins say about where country music is heading.
We dig into performances that sparked debate, especially Chris Stapleton solo versus his duet with Miranda Lambert—great song, flawless execution, but does it fit either brand? The Red Clay Strays brought harmonies that surprised us with an Arctic Monkeys vibe, raising a bigger question about identity: when southern bands don’t claim “country,” yet chart on country formats, is that healthy expansion or a nudge to fit the market? Along the way, we celebrate pros who hold the scene together—Paul Franklin’s Musician of the Year nod and a heartfelt tribute to Vince Gill’s mentorship and humility.
Then we zoom out. Are labels signing too many TikTok artists who can’t deliver live? How much do charts really matter now—less for artists, more for songwriters? We compare A-players in the studio to road bands on tour, why some artists are skipping the “Nashville session” model, and how remote recording and AI risk eroding that full-room magic where eight players breathe together. You’ll also hear a lively news round-up, a chart countdown, candid listener mailbag on genre blending and economics, and a hilarious community game: ruin a band name by changing one letter. Buns And Roses, anyone?
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And we are coming at you live. I am Jay Franzi, and with me tonight, the Felix to my Oscar, my beautiful co-host, Miss Tiffany Mason.
Tiffany Mason:With a pairing like that, you know it's going to be a good show.
Jay Franze:Nice. If you are new to the show, this is your source for the latest news, reviews, and interviews. And if you would like to join in, comment, or fire off any questions, please head over to jfranzie.com. All right, my friend. Tradition says that we have to discuss the question of the day.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:The question of the day.
Tiffany Mason:Lay it on me.
Jay Franze:I don't know what it is. What's the question of the day? No, this is a good one. This is a good one. Let me tell you why. It is not your typical question. We have to thank Roxanne for the question of the day. She is the one that provided us with the question of the day, and it is going to be a funny one, I have a feeling. Can you ruin a band name by changing or adding just one letter? Can you ruin a band's name by changing or adding just one letter? Do not give me your answer now. Wait till a little later in the show. And if you would like to join our shenanigans here, please go ahead and put your comments in the comment section, and we will read those off a little later in the show as well. Woo! All right. Let's get this thing started, my friend. Last week we talked about the CMA awards. A little preemptive discussion. This week we're going to discuss how you owe me a steak. I mean, we're going to discuss a recap of the CMA awards.
Tiffany Mason:Oh, I wish I had been more correct.
Jay Franze:Well, let's just jump into it. It aired on ABC last week. You can now go ahead back and stream it on Hulu. Took place at the Bridgetone Arena there in Nashville. It is their hockey arena. The thing about the CMAs we have to understand is the time frame. What does it cover? So it covers from July to June. So the activity had to take place between July 1st and June 30th.
Tiffany Mason:I did not realize that. Okay.
Jay Franze:Okay, so that's why when we see things that say best new artists, or it seems like they've been around a little while. However, the reason why they're on our list is because they hit the scene between July 1st and June 30th. Got it. We mentioned that it was hosted by Lainey Wilson, and it was. She was a little nervous because it was her second time hosting, but it was her first time doing it solo. I think she did a great job.
Tiffany Mason:Killed it.
Jay Franze:She did. She killed it.
Tiffany Mason:I think she just oozes charisma. Yeah. You you can't watch her and not love her.
Jay Franze:Yeah. So I think she did a great job. Super, super proud of her. And I really enjoyed watching the show from start to finish with her, her wardrobe changes, her activities, the comments she makes, just like you said, the charisma she has overall.
Tiffany Mason:Well, and I think it's becoming very apparent that she is country music. You know, like there's just so many things that are coming out that you just realize. Like she shared the story about when she was nine years old and she was sitting at the Grand Old Opry, and you know, she wanted to be inducted into the Grand Old Opry. And then I mean, I follow her on social media, and I just feel like so many things that she does are so true to country music, and then doing the cowcurl of the night at all of her concerts, you know, like trying to be a role model for you know, her fans, and then just honestly the way she talks, just her cute little accent. I mean, it just feels so authentic to go with country music when she was talking about her parents when they came out on stage with her, and just when she accepted her awards, just the whole thing, all of her just shouts country music.
Jay Franze:I think it shouts class.
Tiffany Mason:Hmm, okay, fair enough. I like that.
Jay Franze:All right, well, as long as we're talking about her, let's jump into the performers. So she was a main performer of the night. What a way to open the show. Yes. Oh my god, a medley of hits.
Tiffany Mason:Yes. You asked about who were watching the night or whatever, and I said Laney Wilson. Anyway, it was her. And that was my favorite outfit of the night. I mean, I loved all eight of hers. But the white one with the gold trim and the gold lace, it was a favorite, fan favorite.
Jay Franze:What did they call it? Her wedding era?
Tiffany Mason:Yes. Yes, they did. Mm-hmm. That's what it was. Her bride era. Yes.
Jay Franze:Not bad. The other one you were looking forward to is Ella Langley. What did you think of her performance?
Tiffany Mason:I mean, I just love them. I loved that in that opening one that Ella Langley and Laney Wilson did a short little duet thing or whatever, you know, and it was kind of part of that medley. Yeah. Just to learn that they're friends in real life was kind of fun. And, you know, it was one of those things where it was like, huh, okay, I see that. That makes sense. Again, just played into what I think they are.
Jay Franze:Well, that's cool. I also liked the performance you did with Riley Green.
Tiffany Mason:Yes. Oh my gosh. And everybody just loves the song anyway. And do they though?
Jay Franze:Do they all does everybody love it?
Tiffany Mason:I think they do because it won. Yes. Fair enough. You know. The fans have spoken, Jay.
Jay Franze:Fine. How about Megan Moroni?
Tiffany Mason:Okay, well, I have a lot to say about Megan Moroney. Okay, so remember, I've always said that she reminds me of the Vimbot, Vimbots. Okay, she does from Austin Powers.
Jay Franze:How long is this going to be? Do I need to get a drink?
Tiffany Mason:Yes. But I think what I actually nailed down is she reminds me of Kendra Wilkinson, who was one of Hugh Hefner's Playboy bunnies. But then she had a show on one of the networks about her personal life. So finally that little dilemma in my brain has been cleared up. And then one of our crew members said, I love her and all of her pink. And I was thinking to myself, well, okay, pink, yeah, because it's girly and Megan Broni's very girly and she does have some pink accents and whatever. But her last album, she was really inspired by blue and white. And then we've heard rumors that the next album is gonna be purple. So I was happy to see her show up in the pink. And then I was like, man, those crew members, they're on it.
Jay Franze:So what are you saying? So then I was kind of put in my place.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, I I know that probably shocks you, but um, yeah. So I enjoyed it, and again, just seeing her, I was like, oh, I love her in person. I love her performances and how adorable she is. And on the radio, I don't know, it falls flat for me, but you know, it's fun to see her. What did you think, Jay?
Jay Franze:Oh, I thought she was awesome. I have no complaints about her. And she's as cute as can be.
Tiffany Mason:So easy on the eyes.
Jay Franze:Easy on the eyes. The one that I think is a little bit more controversial is Chris Stapleton. Performed a couple songs.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:Performed solo and then performed with Miranda Lambert. When he performed by himself, I thought it sounded like Chris Stapleton. I thought it was spot on. It matched his brand. When he sings with Miranda Lambert, I don't think it matches either one of their brand.
Tiffany Mason:I agree with that.
Jay Franze:I think it's a great song. I think it sounds good.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:But it's not them. At least I don't feel like it's them. I f I want grit and growl out of them. I don't want that just sing songgy stuff. It's kind of a throwback to the 70s and kind of give a little bit of a disco vibe to it. I think they did very good. I think it's a well-written song. I think they performed it very well. I just don't think that's their brand.
Tiffany Mason:I felt like they were competing, not rivalry-ish, but like maybe they couldn't find their note, or I don't know. I didn't feel like they were themselves. So exactly what you're saying, but on a different level or whatever. But I remember I was working on a blanket. I've crocheted this whole peppermint blanket, and I was connecting these pieces together, and I looked up and I was just like, what is happening right now? Something was off. So I would agree with that.
Jay Franze:Hmm. All right. Well, I don't know if I'd say it's off, you know, if you want to send hate mail to Tiffany at JFranzi.com. But anyways, I think they did. Now another one I know you liked was the Red Clay Strays. Yes. I thought their performance was wasn't bad. It was pretty good overall, but it gave me now work with me here. It gave me an Arctic monkeys vibe. Oh, okay. Especially when the harmonies kicked in. It had a very Arctic monkeys feel to it. Okay. I know, you know, pop rock versus pop country. However, if you go back and listen, I think you'll see it too. It has a Arctic monkey feel, especially when the harmonies kick in in the course.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. Well then I may like the Arctic monkeys. I um feel like, again, one of the crew members have mentioned these guys before. And I looked them up and I think that maybe I didn't give them a fair shake. And then because I was watching CMAs, you know, I wanted to give credit or give the full time to the show. And so I am torn. I feel two ways about it. I feel like it's really like this machismo or like Elvis Presley-ish with his like, you know, rock hard hair that he's got flung backwards. And he's kind of too cool for school, or like cool hand look, you know, like, but or also uh trying too hard, or like they said with the country music, some people use it as a costume. Oh, I mean, I hate to say that. I don't want to say that they're gimmicky, but it kind of feels a little bit like that. But also because it's so far off the beaten path, like it's not like they're trying to imitate anybody. So then I'm like, well, maybe that's just like who he is, and he's just like magnifying who he is. So the verdict is out for me, what the true identity of the Red Clay Straits is, but I did enjoy the music. So they're on my radar for sure. And based on them being on the CMAs and being in the performance, I kind of expect to see them on the charts.
Jay Franze:Fair enough. Think they've been there, think they'll be back.
Tiffany Mason:Do you think that I mean, I guess I don't even want to say this out loud, but have they been on the radio?
Jay Franze:Oh, yeah. Yeah. You probably should not say it all up. Let's go ahead and keep that to yourself.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, yeah. Okay. That that yeah.
Jay Franze:While we're on that note, let's go ahead and move on to the presenters. Okay. Let's start off with Billy Ray Cyrus and Elizabeth Hurley.
Tiffany Mason:Mm-hmm.
Jay Franze:I thought Billy Ray Cyrus actually looked pretty good.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:I don't think he looked as off as he has recently. I think he was all in black. I think he had a sharp look. It was well put together. Now, whether or not you like the style is another story. But I think it was well put together.
Tiffany Mason:Like Elizabeth, help your man out.
Jay Franze:I think overall, I think he was well put together.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:I think I would agree. I think she probably was a good influence on him.
Tiffany Mason:It was an improvement from the last time he was in viewers' sight.
Jay Franze:I think his PR firm's been working with him. Anyways, I like I can't say enough. Every time I ever met with him, hung out with him, did anything with him, he was the nicest guy in the world. So we all have our challenges. I know he's faced some of some of his own, but he is truly one of the nicest people I've ever met.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:Yeah. All right. How about Leanne Rhymes? Or shall I say, how about Leanne Rhymes' boobs?
Tiffany Mason:Well, I think they're great. I was listening to a strategy on how to get sponsorships or whatever. And one of them was talking about talking about the product before you're even sponsored by them or whatever. And I think it's funny that you know Victoria's Secret is reaching out being like, Hey, you are making waves for us. What can we get for you?
Jay Franze:Making waves. I know it's mixed feelings on whether people think she's good looking or not. I fall in the camp of I think she's a good looking woman. Yeah, I think she's looking at it. I've always thought that. I've always thought she's good looking. And yes, her bosom, as we call it, has been hiked up recently to the point where it's drawing a lot of attention.
Tiffany Mason:Well, you put them on display, you know.
Jay Franze:And it's all as she says to her Victoria's Secret bra.
Tiffany Mason:Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Jay Franze:And now, like you said, Victoria's Secret's reaching out to her for a little bit of collaboration.
Tiffany Mason:But I mean, is it a secret anymore?
Jay Franze:Well, if it is, I know what the secret is. Okay, let's talk about Gretchen Wilson for a minute. Yeah. I thought she was there, you know, was happy. But during the medley, she refused to stand up. Do you have any speculation of why she refused to stand up?
Tiffany Mason:No. I didn't realize she was actually refusing to stand up. I felt like I mean, it seemed like everybody else knew that Laney was gonna come sing with them.
Jay Franze:You know what? I think there's a few people that knew that, but I don't think everybody knew, especially when it started. Okay. Because she started in was it Chris Stapleton? She started singing his song and his head instantly looked up and his eyes opened up.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:So I don't think everybody knew. Obviously, some people knew because they participated.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. Yeah. I think that maybe she just wasn't expecting it. And you know, just because you go on stage and sing doesn't mean that you like the spotlight. I mean, you do when it's planned, but maybe I don't know.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:Maybe not.
Jay Franze:I don't know if she minded the spotlight because she sat there and danced and even sang along. There was some reason she didn't want to stand. I don't know what that reason is. If anybody does know, please put it in the comments. I'd love to know.
Tiffany Mason:I felt like she just thought, like, oh, this is your moment, Laney. You don't have to humor me by pulling me up. That that's just what I felt like to me.
Jay Franze:You're taking the high road. I like that.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. Yeah.
Jay Franze:And that's a good theory. If anybody else has any theories, go ahead, please. Put them in the comments. I'd like. I would truly, honestly like to know. You know, was did something happen? Did she hurt her leg? Was she not wearing shoes? I don't know. What was the reason for not wanting to stand up?
Tiffany Mason:I just think to myself, like, she is fine on the road, but that was taped months ago.
Jay Franze:So all right. Yeah. Let's talk most memorable moment. What was your most memorable moment from the show?
Tiffany Mason:Um, I did like when Laney picked a cowgirl of the night. That was really cute. I really liked when Chris Stapleton sang When I Call Your Name by Vince Gill when he was doing a tribute to Vince Gill. I really liked that. And then Laney's outfits. Laney's outfits. Did you see Laney's outfits?
Jay Franze:You struggle with this whole understanding of what most or best.
Tiffany Mason:I have a lot of thoughts, Jay, and I cannot just narrow it down to one.
Jay Franze:You can't contain them.
Tiffany Mason:I can't. I can't do it.
Jay Franze:Well, what was yours? I mean, overall, I thought it was a high-energy show. I thought the stripped down moments were emotional, so I thought it had a good roller coaster ride to take you through from start to finish. I thought it was a very well-produced show. In the past, I don't think it's actually had that.
Tiffany Mason:So yeah, I will say you saying that now, it makes me feel like the CMAs are back. You know, that that's kind of how it felt.
Jay Franze:It did feel that way. But my favorite moment of the entire show was Laney doing the medley.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:I mean, that was just awesome. I haven't seen anything like that in a long time. And not only have I not seen anything like that in a long time, she sang it live.
Tiffany Mason:Yes, and I did appreciate that because you could hear, not like she was, I mean, maybe she was just barely out of breath, or like, but it wasn't perfect.
Jay Franze:You could hear her breathe.
Tiffany Mason:That's right.
Jay Franze:I mean, that's right. She started off on stage, walked down stairs, you know, walked over to people, turned around, danced. She did all of these things and sang it live where most people would have listened to.
Tiffany Mason:I did remember thinking to myself, like, son of a gun, she's actually really singing it.
Jay Franze:Yeah, I was super impressed. That's a whole new level of appreciation I have for her now. Yeah. All right. Let's go on to the awards themselves and why you actually owe me a steak. Oh. Medium well. I know Jason Zercone would not agree with me, but medium well it is. Also, I like it seasoned, blackened, medium well and blackened with a side of shrimp.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:Okay. You know all about that. Texas Roadhouse. Might not be considered the best steakhouse in the world, but it is my favorite.
Tiffany Mason:It's so good.
Jay Franze:So I've been to a lot of them. Texas Roadhouse is my favorite. Whatever happened to Logan's? I mean, I see those here and there.
Tiffany Mason:They're still around.
Jay Franze:But they're not as prevalent as they used to be.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. Yeah.
Jay Franze:Look at me throwing out words.
Tiffany Mason:I was pretty proud of you when you mentioned it.
Jay Franze:And it was like flawless. I didn't even have to think about it. It just came up.
Tiffany Mason:Well, it was pretty good. It was pretty good.
Jay Franze:Where that came from.
Tiffany Mason:Uh-huh.
Jay Franze:All right.
Tiffany Mason:Hanging out with me for too long.
Jay Franze:I've got the list here. And I have the start. So let's just go ahead and go down the list. Entertainer of the year. Remind everybody who our choices were. Luke Combs, Cody Johnson, Chris Stapleton, Morgan Wallen, and Laney Wilson. We both went with Laney Wilson.
Tiffany Mason:It's a no-brainer. It was a gimme.
Jay Franze:Therefore, we were both correct. But that's when things changed. Next, album of the year. Megan Moroni, Zach Top, Pose Malone, Morgan Wallen, Laney Wilson. Once again, we both went together, but we both went with Morgan Wallen, and we both lost that one. Because it went to Laney Wilson. As an artist, I do believe she is, in my opinion, the better artist. There's probably a lot of controversy there as well. However, I do feel like he had a great album.
Tiffany Mason:Well, 36 songs.
Jay Franze:Great collection. Box set. Oh, if it was her, I well, no, never mind. Moving on. Female vocalist of the year, Kelsey Ballerini, Miranda Lambert, Ella Langley, Megan Moroney, and Laney Wilson. I went with Laney Wilson. You went with Ella Langley. Ella. I went with Laney Wilson. Male vocalist of the year, Luke Combs, Chris Stapleton, Zach Top, Morgan Wallen, or Cody Johnson. We, for whatever reason, did not go over that one, so it doesn't matter, but Cody Johnson was the one who won.
Tiffany Mason:You know, it was funny when the award was announced. I'm like, I don't think we chose on that one.
Jay Franze:We didn't put a vote in for that one. Cody, you're allowed to win that one.
Tiffany Mason:I was proud of him though, because we had talked about him, and I don't feel like his name is as big as his competitors on that one.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:And I was like, okay, Cody is legit.
Jay Franze:Yeah, I mean, you have some some big dogs in there, including Chris Stapleton, man. Good job. All right. This one we did not vote on, but you'll be happy. Vocal group of the year. The Red Clay Strays, Lady A, Little Big Town, Old Dominion, Rasco Flats. The Red Clay Strays.
Tiffany Mason:Is that a tongue twister for you, Jay?
Jay Franze:It is a tongue twister from tongue twister. Tongue twitter? It's a tongue twister for me. I always want to say any two words you put together. Anywho. Okay, now this one I'm happy with. Not a category we voted on, but I'm I'm happy with. I'm proud, let's say. Vocal duo of the year. We have Brooks and Dunn, Brothers Osborne, Dan and Shay, Maddie and Tay, The War and Treaty. The winner is Brooks and Dunn.
Tiffany Mason:I know, I was pretty impressed by that.
Jay Franze:Why is that so impressive?
Tiffany Mason:Because it's like they're standing the test of time. You know, like that's how legit they are.
Jay Franze:Not bad. The most awarded act ever. The most awarded act ever. That's pretty impressive. Congratulations. I agree. And congratulations to Jeff King, guitar player, for gotta give him credit, why not? Agreed. Alright. Fair. He plays a big, big part in that. Wouldn't sound tough and mean if it wasn't for him. Alright, here we go. The one that sealed the deal. Oh god. New artist of the year. Ella Langley, Shabuzi, Tucker Wetmore, Steven Wilson Jr., and Zach Top. And the winner is Zach Top. I chose Zach Top. You chose Ella Langley. Yeah. That sealed the deal for my dinner.
Tiffany Mason:Winner winner steak dinner.
Jay Franze:Winner winner steak dinner. Let's just wrap it up. Single of the year. Yeah, Luke Combs, Megan Moroney, Zach Top, Ella Langley, and Riley Green. Or Laney Wilson. Winner goes to Laney Wilson. Who happens to be the most awarded artist of the night? We were gonna vote on that too, but I think we both went with Laney Wilson. I think that's why we didn't musical event of the year.
Tiffany Mason:What is it?
Jay Franze:Well, you have Riley Green featuring Ella Langley, Brandon Lake featuring Jelly Roll. Cody Johnson featuring Carrie Underwood, Megan Moroney, featuring Kenny Chesney, or Post Malone featuring Blake Shelton. And the winner goes Post Malone featuring Blake Shelton. Now that's a good one. It's Pour Me a Drink. Mm-hmm. No, uh I like it. I may have if I were gonna vote on that one, I would have either have gone with you know what, I probably would have gone with Riley Green featuring Ella Langley. I was gonna say Cody Johnson and Carrie Underwood, but I actually think I like Riley Green and Ella Langley. Don't mind if I do. Yeah. That's pretty solid. I'm kind of hooked on that song right now. Yeah. Alright, let's see. Let's wrap these last few up here. Music video of the year. Megan Moroney, Cody Johnson, Laney Wilson, Chris Stapleton, Ella Langley, and Riley Green. The winner goes to Ella Langley and Riley Green.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:That's the one you were talking about.
Tiffany Mason:Probably so. Yep.
Jay Franze:And then Musician of the Year. Now this is good. I like this. Musician of the Year. You probably will not recognize the names, but these are the musicians that we typically work with in the recording studio in Nashville.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:First one, Paul Franklin. Plays steel guitar. Janine Fleenor. I don't know that name. Jenny? J-E-N-E. Jenny. Jenny? Fleenor.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:Okay. Fiddle.
Tiffany Mason:Maybe it's supposed to be Jenny.
Jay Franze:Jenny? Yeah. Jenny Fleenor. I don't know. Not somebody I worked with, but somebody I did work with is Brent Mason.
Tiffany Mason:Yes.
Jay Franze:He may remember that name as best guitar player.
Tiffany Mason:Oh, I remember from one of our episodes. Yep.
Jay Franze:Brent Mason is an absolutely amazing guitar player. One of the best ever. If I had to go with one, I'd probably go with Jeff King. But Brent Mason is clearly the number one go-to and has been for ages, and by far the best when it comes to what they call chicken picking.
Tiffany Mason:Chicken picking.
Jay Franze:Musician of the Year, Paul Franklin. Congratulations to Paul. Cool. And then last but not least, high up on the mountain, Mr. Vinskill received the Willie Nelson Lifetime Achievement Award.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, that was pretty cool. Not bad. It was cool just to hear what everyone had to say about him. And in Chris Stapleton's tribute or whatever to Vinskill, that he said, you know, this guy has really poured into me and invited me into songwriter workshops that I didn't deserve to be in the room. And so that was really cool that um, you know, that he shared that little piece. I love learning those things about the other artists because we just get to see the stage performances. So it's cool to see a little bit of their character.
Jay Franze:Yeah. I thought it was pretty cool. I was talking to my wife about it, and I told my wife how he's just playing with the Eagles. And she's like, why would he take a step down like that to go from selling out arenas on his own to playing with the Eagles? I'm like, Well, first of all, the Eagles are huge. It's not like he's taking a step down, it's just a lateral move. That's it's probably something that he wants to do. He's probably been a big Eagles fan and just wants to be part of it. But he plays in local bands as well.
Tiffany Mason:Oh, interesting.
Jay Franze:When I say local bands, please don't get me wrong, these are studio musicians who are the best of the best, but they just play locally in Nashville. They just, you know, he was playing at the same bar in Nashville for weeks on, weeks on weeks for years. He just would just play there every week. So he is not one to have an ego and say he can only do you know stadiums or arenas. So he's always one to step in and play wherever and whenever he can. I think he's just a fan of music in general.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, really cool. Well, also, I think that um, you know, when you're the main artist, there's a lot of pressure and a lot of stress that comes with that. And so it's probably nice to just show up and play a little guitar, play a little piano.
Jay Franze:Well, if he's stressed out, he's he's good at hiding it because he's effortless for sure.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. That was something that uh I think I'd actually like to ask you about.
Jay Franze:Uh-oh.
Tiffany Mason:Speaking of like effortless things, and like you know, sometimes people stand up and they just the music just comes out and you just sort of like so you want to know how I live my life so effortlessly. Yes, that's exactly what the next uh example I was gonna share was.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:Um but I noticed that Keith Urban when he came out, he holds his guitar kind of low, but also plays like just effortless. Like he's not actually tripping, but he does like some kind of cool swaggery thing when he comes out with. Yeah, where he kind of drags his foot, does like a skip. Yeah. And I was like, I don't feel like other people hold their guitar that low. So do you think that that's like a Keith Urban thing? Or is it more common that I'm just not noticing it?
Jay Franze:It's more common in the rock world.
Tiffany Mason:To play lower.
Jay Franze:Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay. I mean, if you look at Slash, that's what his guitar is down by his knees at all times. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely more common in the rock. World in Nashville, people are more worried about being pristine and playing as accurately as possible. And in order to do that, the higher up you hold your guitar, the easier it is to play accurately. And technically, when it's across your chest, is where like proper guitar players will tell you it needs to be. Nashville, when you're playing live, probably hold it a little lower over their belly, maybe. Rock stars tend to hold it, you know, between their knees and their crotch.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. I just thought he looked like super cool coming out. And I was like, of course he's got like his t-shirt and his black jeans. I'm like, of course, of course. Like, but you're right.
Jay Franze:It's harder to play when it's like that, especially he, it's like you said, effortless. He's not looking at his hands, he's just walking and playing like, yeah, I got this. I've done this six times.
Tiffany Mason:I don't know how to explain it, but everyone should go back and watch the replay of it because this guy walks out like he's got his hands in his pocket.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:You know, like he's just like strolling along. I'm gonna play this song that I could just do this all day in my sleep.
Jay Franze:It's funny you say it too, because there's one point where he kind of you know throws his head backwards like he's you know, just getting into things. And I was thinking to myself, if I threw my head backwards like that without a guitar, without anything, I would have fallen on my ass. I mean, I would have passed out.
Tiffany Mason:I think he does it also to like fix his hair. Like to get his hair out of his eyes. Sure, but you know, I mean, I think it's another reason. I don't know. I just thought like, wow, you're like the definition of cool right now.
Jay Franze:All right, let's move on to the news.
Tiffany Mason:Okay, well, the news is gonna start out with our girl Lainey Wilson. Just the fact that she got three awards at the 59th Annual CMA Awards. Entertainer of the year, album of the year for Whirlwind, and female vocalist of the year. Those wins make her the third woman to win Entertainer of the Year twice, and the second to win Album of the Year twice. So, congratulations, Laney Wilson.
Jay Franze:She's actually the third woman ever to host the show solo.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. I mean, she held her own.
Jay Franze:Oh, yeah. She nailed it.
Tiffany Mason:They uh they say, you know, like on American Idol, like you have to command the whole stage, you have to take up all the space. That girl took up all the space plus the empty seats in the stadium or in the arena. I mean, she's got a huge personality and she just feels like the epitome of country music. She did a great job. Yeah. Okay, well, Miss Ella Langley and Miranda Lambert, they're plotting a big studio move after their hit single. Ella Langley revealed that she and Miranda Lambert are working on something really cool, more than just songs, following their duet, Choosing Texas. I hope you guys saw the performance of Choosing Texas during the CMAs. I am really loving this song, and I want to see it on the charts, so we'll see if it gets there. But the teaser hints at a deeper creative partnership in the studio, and fans are speculating about an album or a tour. So that's got me.
Jay Franze:They have been working together. Miranda's got, you know, a couple of production credits on her album. Maybe they're putting something together.
Tiffany Mason:Well, they are. They're working on something really cool, Jay.
Jay Franze:Something more than songs. I get it. I want to know what it is. Is she wearing shoes? I don't know. Somebody's gonna tell me, you know, inquiring minds.
Tiffany Mason:Inquiring minds. Yeah, I want to know. Okay, well, the next thing I want to tell you about, Mr. Nate Smith, big fan of him, and Tyler Hubbard, have joined forces on After Midnight. That's the name of their song. Already making waves with a strong first week. The duo rolled out a surprise pop-up in downtown Nashville to mark the release. How fun would that have been? Just hanging out and all of a sudden outlocks Nate Smith and Tyler Hubbard.
Jay Franze:I think it's awesome. I mean, they took a non-traditional approach to recording the song. They kind of made it more of a live approach and they left the A players behind. So we'll see. See how it does.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. Well, we said that uh Morgan had done some non-traditional recording, right?
Jay Franze:Yeah, he likes to record in the dark. It's not that that far off the path, but it is not typical. But the fact that they didn't use A-players, Tim McGraw did that. He used his live band to go in the studio and record.
Tiffany Mason:I love it. Bring it on. I'm all about a new style, a new way of doing things. Uh, and really, I mean, ugh. I get it why they use the studio performers or musicians, sorry, studio musicians, but I wish that they would use their stage musicians. Like the guys that make them sound good on a nightly basis or a concertly basis, you know.
Jay Franze:Well, if we take a look at that for a second, I was talking to Scotty Simpson about that once because he's a studio musician as well as a live player, so is Jeff K. Okay. But when I was talking to Scotty Simpson from the Oak Ridge Boys, he was saying when he's playing in the studio, the responsibility for him is to come up with something new, creative, and cool instantly. Where when he's playing live, it's his responsibility to recreate something cool that somebody else had already created. Okay. So it takes a different mindset a lot of times to be the studio guy to create something from scratch and to play it flawlessly immediately. Where Jeff King is absolutely insane at that. He can create whatever whatever comes to his head, he can put out instantly and flawlessly. Yeah. And that is a special kind of talent. Where then you get uh musicians who play live who are not studio guys who cannot typically pull that off. Where Scott and Jeff are the exception, most of your studio players are not at the same level, or I'm sorry, the live players are not at the same level as the studio players. So they can play and they can play well, but they have to practice and rehearse those songs and then they master them. Where Jeff and Scotty, when they're in the studio, they can just master it immediately.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, what a cool skill.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. Well, I feel like that's a a good eye-opener and a fair explanation of that. So that makes sense to me.
Jay Franze:Yeah. That's what we're here for. We're here to shed a little light.
Tiffany Mason:Shed a little light on the city. Thank you. Well, Mr. Stephen Wilson Jr. shares this priceless advice from Eric Church. The rising star opened up about a defining piece of career advice from Eric Church, which was slow down and enjoy it. And I will say he sang, stand by me. And I feel like he milked that song.
Jay Franze:He slowed down, all right.
Tiffany Mason:He slowed down. I think he was enjoying it. But also, like sometimes I do love when an artist slows down a song and you're just like dying for the next words, right? Like you know the next words, and you're singing along, and they are just like, I don't know how else to say it, but they're like effing with you, you know. Like you're just like, say it, say it. I know the next words, you're just dying, and and they just like linger, and then those words come, and it's almost more rewarding, I feel like, as a listener, to have that happen.
Jay Franze:That's funny you got that advice from Eric Church because until you said that, I didn't really make the connection, but the two of them are in the same rough genre of of country music. They both kind of have that same edgy vibe to them and stuff. They would be good on tour together. Did you know he not Eric Church, but Steven Wilson Jr. Junior? Junior's important junior. I'm a junior.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:Anyways, he was a biologist before he went into country music.
Tiffany Mason:Wow, our country music artists are talented, y'all.
Jay Franze:Who thinks of a country artist as a biologist?
Tiffany Mason:I don't know, but okay. I mean, this guy's got kind of a funky vibe, or the vibe that I caught from the performance. He oh, he just gives off like kind of a creepy vibe. I think his PR needs to work on that a little bit, but you can totally see him take that baseball cap off, put a white lab coat on him, and slick his hair down a little bit, and you can see him holding some beakers and test tubes and trying to figure it out.
Jay Franze:And then he's working with Kenny. Kenny, sir, good to see you. Thanks for joining us tonight.
Tiffany Mason:Good to see you, Kenny. Okay, well, let's talk about Riley Green. Riley Green is heating up the stage with the worst way performance, which we did talk about. They delivered a memorable live take of the number one single Worst Way, the CMA Awards. The song made history as one of only a few solo written number ones in country in recent years.
Jay Franze:That's pretty cool.
Tiffany Mason:It was a great performance.
Jay Franze:I feel like these days every single song out there has got like 60 different co-writers on it. You know, the DoorDash guy who dropped off the food gets a credit on the song because he was providing food during that moment. I don't know, it's just crazy to me. I mean, I can understand you you get a a partner. Like I always found one partner and then stuck with him. Yeah. In my early days, I wrote with this guy named Brett Gordon, very, very talented guy. And then when I made my way to Nashville, I wrote with Jim Cristaldi, the producer that I worked with, who's like I said, the most underrated guitar player ever. This guy's absolutely amazing. But he wrote with thousands of people, but I didn't. I just choose one. It's like, why? Yeah. You get something going. But I get it. You get creativity and different ideas from different people. That's what I tell my wife. I need to go out and be creative. No, not good.
Tiffany Mason:You don't have to go hide and cheat. You can just openly be creative.
Jay Franze:Sorry, babe. I gotta go be creative tonight. Moving on. Just a joke, babe. Just a joke.
Tiffany Mason:Moving on to Vince Gill. He was visibly moved while accepting his CMA Lifetime Achievement Award, the Willie Nelson, sorry, Lifetime Achievement Award. His emotional tribute struck a chord, and his peers, including George Strait, Brandy Carlisle, joined in the tribute at the show. I thought it was funny that somebody said it might have been him, but that it wasn't lost on him that Brandy Carlisle was the one who had done some of his songs because Vince Gildas tend to sing a little bit of a higher register.
Jay Franze:So I think that's one of the reasons why he's never been one of my favorites. I like him more as a guitar player than a vocalist. I have an album or two of his, but he's never been my favorite. I like more of that baritone range.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. So you can sing along? I don't sing along to anything.
Jay Franze:You think I fall in the baritone range?
Tiffany Mason:Maybe.
Jay Franze:I'll take it.
Tiffany Mason:Well, the next group that I want to tell you about is the Red Clay Strays. They got their vocal group Win and hint at changing direction. I don't want them to change direction. But they said that uh they'll eventually make some actual country music too. So the Alabama-based band blends southern rock, soul, and blues, and now they're leaning further towards traditional country.
Jay Franze:It's funny you say that because they were quoted once as saying they don't see themselves as a country band.
Tiffany Mason:I wonder if they're tasting success and they're being well received, and they're like, well, crap, that's where we need to lean in. Maybe that's where they're finally getting the recognition they've been seeking.
Jay Franze:I think also I I produced a record for a guy named Maddie McCree out of South Carolina. Probably my favorite record I ever produced, one of my favorite artists I've ever worked with. And he didn't think of himself as country either. He thought of himself as rock. But I think just being from that part of the country, even when you're playing rock music, you know, it comes across as southern rock and has a country flair. I can't imagine somebody coming out of Alabama and playing anything close to country music and having it not sound like country music.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. Yeah.
Jay Franze:Well, I guess time will tell you the Arctic monkeys. Either way.
Tiffany Mason:Time will tell. The verdict is out. We'll be watching.
Jay Franze:If you're from Alabama, you should be sounding like a southern rock band, but yet somehow you sound like a pop rock band out of London. Whatever.
Tiffany Mason:Well, some people that were not at the CMAs, there's a whole hubbub about these nine shocking absences at the CMAs. And I actually wrote them down. Let me tell you who they were. The fingers are being pointed at Morgan Wallett, Jelly Roll, Post Malone, Blake Shilton, Reba McIntyre, Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood, Kane Brown, and Luke Bryant. Now who? Brian.
Jay Franze:You just can't say it fast.
Tiffany Mason:I can't say it fast. Some people, like Reba filming Happy Place and the award.
Jay Franze:At least that's a legitimate reason.
Tiffany Mason:Yes, some people did. Jason L Gene and his wife Brittany were in Miami on a date night.
Jay Franze:Not a legitimate reason.
Tiffany Mason:What?
Jay Franze:I mean, unless I mean if they're on vacation for like a period of time. And if they're just there for a night for a date, I know.
Tiffany Mason:Right. Right. I'm not sure the exact circumstances.
Jay Franze:Call them and ask. Jason, do me a favor. JFranzi.com, join us. Let us know.
Tiffany Mason:Let us know. What were you and Brittany doing? We will tell you if it was legitimate that you missed.
Jay Franze:We'll tell you if you have a good enough excuse.
Tiffany Mason:We will judge you. Okay. Anyway, there's a whole commotion about these people missing. There was a comment that Britney made, though. So they were talking about the CMA Awards, and on Britney's Instagram, she commented, not much love from that one with raised eyebrows. So not sure, but they opted for a quieter evening rather than walking the red carpet at Nashville's Bridgetone Arena. So they were in Miami, not on a red carpet. I would prefer stand under my toes.
Jay Franze:You just saying that just reminded me. It's funny, the Nashville red carpet in the CMAs, it's it's on Demumbrian, which is between Bridgetone and Convention. Music City Center, right? Music City Center. But what happens is people don't realize the limousines drive around the bridge stone, pick up another artist, drive them down the red carpet, come around, pick up another artist, drive them. You got probably ten limousines that just do this all night long while they're dropping these people off. So if you look close, you'll see the same drivers, same cars coming down.
Tiffany Mason:I was gonna say, yeah.
Jay Franze:But I took Tim and Faith down the red carpet, and I was in a suburban, blacked-out windows, nobody could see anything. But when we we rounded the corner, photographers were taking pictures of the car, which apparently lit up so you could see through the windows, and people could see who was in the car. And as soon as that happened, then the crowd, because there was a set of bleachers along the Mumbrian on the Music City side, the crowd went nuts, and they were screaming so loud that the car was shaken. And I get out to help them out and down the carpet, and it felt like I was with the Beatles. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. It was absolutely amazing. I know you say he's not relevant anymore, but this was absolutely amazing for sure.
Tiffany Mason:Did you try to sign autographs, Jay? Did you think that they were screaming for me?
Jay Franze:They were screaming for me, but the fact that Tim and Faith were there, I'm glad they get to experience what that kind of feeling is like to be around me.
Tiffany Mason:It was nice of you.
Jay Franze:Yeah. I get it. I try to do what I can.
Tiffany Mason:I share the them on your coattails.
Jay Franze:Got it. Yeah, of course.
Tiffany Mason:Well, if you guys did not see the CMAs, I would encourage you to go on to Hulu and watch them. Again, it was hosted by Laney Wilson, and the fans got the vantage point, which songs and artists would appear live on the broadcasts and streaming platforms. We had Shabuzi walking through like a forest or whatever. We had Kelsey Ballerini singing in the rain. Yeah, there was all kinds of stuff that was going on that was really cool, really interesting. Um, I think it was Chris Stapleton's one of his performances where the music was on the sides of him and he was walking down the center. Like there was a lot of cool switch-ups. So, and then eight outfits from Lainey Wilson, like what? While we're on the eight outfits, I really hated her camo dress with the long green gloves. Like, come on. I know she's all country, I get it, but oh man, you just didn't like it. It was not my favorite look for her.
Jay Franze:Had to end it there.
Tiffany Mason:I know. Sorry, hate mail. Go ahead.
Jay Franze:Before we move on, I just have to point out that your mother says yes. Yes. They do all love me. Thank you, Miss Gaffy.
Tiffany Mason:Uh see, that's mom's got some love for Jay.
Jay Franze:All right, moving on. Question of the day. Can you ruin a band name by changing just one letter or adding one letter? Can you ruin a band name? Love you for giving this. By changing or adding one letter. Thank you, Roxanne. All right. Here we go. Let the fun begin. Oh, wait, one more coming from your mother. Oh, she loved the camo dress.
Tiffany Mason:No. It could have been just the green gloves. I'm not sure if it was just the gloves, but I don't know. It's something like you want to feel that award in your hands. You know, you work so hard for it.
Jay Franze:It's not like she didn't have 50 other awards.
Tiffany Mason:That's true.
Jay Franze:All right. Do you want me to tell you the name of the band and what letters were changed, or you want me to just tell you the changed name?
Tiffany Mason:No, I think we gotta do the original and then what we're changing it into.
Jay Franze:All right. Sarah with an H says cold play.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:Mold play.
Tiffany Mason:Mold play.
Jay Franze:I think that starts us off pretty strong, and you can see where we're headed tonight.
Tiffany Mason:Way to go, Sarah.
Jay Franze:Jenna says Arosmith.
Tiffany Mason:Oh, I want to hear this one because I was this was the first one I tried to work on.
Jay Franze:You tried to work on one. She changed the O in Aerosmith to an A, and you have Area Smith. Not quite the same ring. No. Kyle says Fleetwood Mac. No. We have Fleetwood Map. Teresa says U2. U3. Still cool, but a little less cool. I like that one. Megan. Megan didn't quite follow the rules, or maybe she did, but she changed two of the letters. Okay. Same letters, but she changed them. Rascal flats changed to Rascal Fluffs. That's about right. Sorry, Jodon. You know, you're my favorite. Jordan says Bon Jovi to Bon Jovi. Okay, Tina, watch yourself here. She says journey to journeys. Sounds like uh mall shoe store. Oh, wait. It is a mall shoe store.
Tiffany Mason:Oh it seems like that one stings a little, Jay. Yeah. That's all right.
Jay Franze:It's not my favorite band anymore. Dustin. Dustin says the Eagles, the bagels. I like bagels. Holly, thank you for joining us, Holly. Love to have you here. She says guns and roses, buns and roses.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. We've all seen it on the calendar.
Jay Franze:Barry. R-E-M. R-E-M. Says gives that computer error energy.
Tiffany Mason:That's fine. That's exactly where I went in my head with it.
Jay Franze:Heather says, the who? The what? Alyssa says foo fighters? Food fighters? Paige says maroon five? No, maroon six. There's a replacement member that nobody knows about. All right. Scott says Pearl Jam? No, Pearl Ham. Lisa says Toto. Tofu.
Tiffany Mason:I think that's changing two letters.
Jay Franze:Oh, she says T-O-T-O. Oh, it is changing two letters. She's changing the F and the U. F-U. That's what she said. Lucas says the killers. No, the billers. Debbie says Lady A. No, it's Lady O. Bradley says nickelback. No, nickelbag. Now that's all sorts of wrong. Uh Fiona says heart. No, it's heat. Mason, zzy top, zzy tap.
Tiffany Mason:Zy tap.
Jay Franze:Olivia, the rolling stones, the rolling scones. Trevor, Hootie and the Blowfish. Hootie and the Blowfist.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:A little scared. Dennis says Paramore. Paracore.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:Audrey says Kings of Leon. Kings of Lean. Okay. Audrey, come on, go back to the drawing board. Noah says blink 182. Bling 182. Victoria says the doors. No, it's the dooms. Sean says rush. No, it's mush.
Tiffany Mason:Oh my gosh, did you get tickets? Are you going to go see mush?
Jay Franze:Nice. Big Mike. Not just Mike. Big Mike. Big says slip knot. No, it's slips knot. Cody says blink 182. No, it's sync 182.
Tiffany Mason:Sounds like a hater.
Jay Franze:Andrew says Pantera. No, it's Poontera.
Tiffany Mason:Ooh.
Jay Franze:It's a whole different band. It's the female murder.
Tiffany Mason:I'll say.
Jay Franze:Shelly says Alabama shakes? No, it's Alabama Snakes. Ooh. Dave Jackson. Say his full name because he's previous guest of the show. Says it's not kiss, it's piss.
Tiffany Mason:I liked that one.
Jay Franze:Oh, Liz May. I said her last name because, well, I wasn't paying attention. She says four ton blondes.
Tiffany Mason:I love that. Instead of four non-blondes for anybody who didn't connect the dots.
Jay Franze:Sarah, it's not Metallica. It's Metallic. Jay says it's not the Beatles. It's the Beagles.
Tiffany Mason:And I like on that one there was a picture of four dogs in the Beatles the album where they have the like band uniforms on and they're in primary, well, kind of primary colors.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:Funny.
Jay Franze:Daniel says it's not Art Garfunkel. It's Fart Garfunkel. Danny says it's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Fleetwood Mad. You know what? That's probably the better name because they were mad an awful lot.
Tiffany Mason:They were mad a lot. Hey, some great music came out of it.
Jay Franze:Ollie, my friend, glad you're here. You said yes, but you didn't change it. So we need you to change it if you're going to participate, Ollie. You know you're one of my favorites, but you gotta follow the rules. Mark Bodalato. Previous guest of the show. He says it's not mega death, it's mega meth. Alright. And the last, last one on our list, Maya Project Music. It's not tool, it's stool. It's kind of a shit to end on.
Tiffany Mason:Pun intended.
Jay Franze:Pun intended. Oh, mercy me. Alright, that was good. That was fun. I enjoyed it.
Tiffany Mason:Wait, did you come up with any?
Jay Franze:Did I come up with any? No, you know what? I didn't. I didn't even think about it.
Tiffany Mason:Okay, well, let me share two for us.
Jay Franze:Oh you know what? Okay. Go ahead, share your two. Share one for me.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. Well, this one I'm gonna share for you because this feels appropriate. So instead of bad company, you add an L and you get bald company.
Jay Franze:Do you mean bald?
Tiffany Mason:Bald.
Jay Franze:Bald?
Tiffany Mason:As in no hair?
Jay Franze:As in bald.
Tiffany Mason:As in bald.
Jay Franze:Why do you keep saying bald?
Tiffany Mason:Bald.
Jay Franze:Dear God. Woman, we're talking about that accent. Tiffany. You're fired.
Tiffany Mason:Bald, I guess I can't say it.
Jay Franze:All right. Yep. Thanks. Thanks for thinking of me. All right, what's the other one?
Tiffany Mason:Okay, the other one is for the go-go's. Now, on one user they change. That's what I was gonna change it to was the ho-hos. And then I thought, well, it could be the go-hos. If you literally only change one letter.
Jay Franze:Change one letter, the G.
Tiffany Mason:I know, but if you only changed one of the G's, it could be the go-hos.
Jay Franze:Go back to the lot. All right, before we get into much trouble, let's move on to the countdown.
Tiffany Mason:The country charts starting at number 10.
Jay Franze:Oh, that's a good idea.
Tiffany Mason:We actually have Blake Shelton debuting with a new song, Stay Country or Die Trying.
Jay Franze:I like it.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. We have Megan Moroni coming in at number nine with six months later. And I knew the lyrics, but they finally stuck. Okay. Like, you know, I'm all about the words, right? And I think it's funny that it says, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and blonder and hotter. And then it says, but we'll call you six months later. Anyway, funny songs, funny lyrics. I am enjoying it. Spot number eight. Ready for spot number eight, Jay?
Jay Franze:I'm ready for spot number eight.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:Let me count it down for you. Three, two, one.
Tiffany Mason:Well, it's Tucker Wetmore with three, two, one. Spot number seven, Parker McCollum, what kind of man? I do like that song. Okay. Well, Riley Green is Holdin' Steady with Don't Mind If I Do with the beautiful Ella Langley.
Jay Franze:That I like.
Tiffany Mason:That we like. Spot number five with Harmale. The song Cowgirl. I like that song.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:No? Yeah. It's not my favorite. Okay. Fair enough. Spot number four is Mr. Luke Combs Back in the Saddle.
Jay Franze:No, that one I like.
Tiffany Mason:Love it.
Jay Franze:Love it. I like me some comeback song.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. Love it. Spot number three is Laney Wilson. Somewhere. Yeah, she is in some place. Laredo. Chase Matthews with Darlin.
Jay Franze:Chase Matthew. He's singular.
Tiffany Mason:Chase Matthew, that's what I said.
Jay Franze:It was the accent.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, it was the accent. With Darlin. Spot number two, holding steady. And spot number one is my beloved song by Jackson Dean, Heavens to Batsy.
Jay Franze:I like that one. Give them a little bit of applause for that.
Tiffany Mason:Just a little bit. Just a little too.
Jay Franze:I know you don't like it. You want it to be singular. However, yeah. It's plural.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah. Heavens to Batsy.
Jay Franze:All right. We're going to go ahead and move on to the mailbag.
Tiffany Mason:What are the crew members saying?
Jay Franze:Crew members are saying a lot.
Tiffany Mason:Okay. Yikes.
Jay Franze:All right. Let's start off with Riley from Chattanooga.
Tiffany Mason:Love me some Chattanooga.
Jay Franze:Chattanooga. Do you think major labels are signing too many TikTok artists who actually can't perform live? Is this hurting the long-term health of country music?
Tiffany Mason:Hmm. How long is a traditional agreement with a large record label?
Jay Franze:Like anything else, it depends. You could have a one-record deal to see how it's going to go. You could have a three-record deal, or you could have a five-record deal. Or these days, who knows?
Tiffany Mason:So I ask that because I'm thinking of how I said they're on the charts a long time, and you said this is a very short time to be on the charts. And so it's kind of comparing yesteryear or, you know, how it was to how it is nowadays. And I think that there's probably some validity in that question about TikTokers and not being able to perform. But also, aren't there just studio artists? I mean, not everybody goes on tour, do they?
Jay Franze:There are artists who prefer to be studio artists, but they typically aren't the ones making a lot of money. Okay. Because artists these days make their money from touring. Okay. Touring and the sale of merchandise. And even then, there's so many people taking a cut of things these days. Even the venue is taking a cut of your merchandise these days, which is insane. So, yeah, there's so many hands on the pie right now because nobody knows how to make money with the industry anymore because you're no longer selling a physical product. You know, record labels are big on 360 deals, which means they take a piece of everything that you do because there's no physical product for them to produce anymore, and then they have to rely on the other.
Tiffany Mason:What does the number 360 represent?
Jay Franze:That they're taking a piece of everything. So instead of instead of just taking a piece of your mechanical royalties, which is the royalties on the physical product of your CD, they are now taking a piece of your tour, a piece of your merch, a piece of everything that you do. It's common, but remember they are the bank, they are the ones paying for all the stuff that you're doing. Right. They do deserve a piece. The question is, you know, how big of a piece and are they taking so much that the artist can't survive? Yeah. So there has to be that balance in my mind. But do I think that TikTok artists are gonna keep flooding the market? Yes, because I think anybody who has any sort of popularity will flood the market. However, let's talk about talented artists. You mentioned Chase Matthew. Chase Matthew, to me, is a talented artist, but he hasn't reached that line yet. Like we talk about Lainey Wilson as being, you know, still a fairly new artist, but a standout artist. Like there's no doubt she is gonna be every bit as relevant as Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, or those artists that you remember from the 90s, she will be remembered in another decade or two.
Tiffany Mason:Well, when Garth Brooks gave her her award, he said, I have no doubt that your career will be as long as you want it to be.
Jay Franze:Yeah.
Tiffany Mason:You know, he was like, the fans will back you. So, you know, the sky's the limit for you.
Jay Franze:But right now, Chase Matthew hasn't reached that point.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:If he left the industry right now, in a decade or two, nobody's gonna remember who he was.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:There's plenty of artists like that throughout the years, like Steve Holey. I went on the road with Steve Holey with Matt McClure. Matt McClure was their live sound engineer, and I went out and supported Matt. And Steve Holey had a number one hit, Good Morning Beautiful. And nobody knows who Steve Holey is now. You know the song, but you don't know who Steve Holey is because he never reached that point. He never crossed that line. Yeah. At some point, these artists have to cross the line to be remembered. That's the problem that Von Ray had. Von Ray being one of the best rock bands I've ever seen, they went on the road with Nickelback and Creed and Sister Hazel and all these bands from the 90s that everybody remembers, but Von Ray never crossed the line. If they had one more single, they would have crossed the line. Because Creed and Nickelback, they're all going on tour now, and they're just as popular now as they were back in the day. Von Ray, I think they would be popular, but I don't they're just not going to sell out arenas like Creed and Nickelback do. So I think that's the problem we're having.
Tiffany Mason:Nickelbag or Nickelback?
Jay Franze:Either way. All right. Hannah with an H. What's the biggest factor holding indie artists back right now? Is it lack of radio play, lack of funding, or just the streaming algorithms? Well, if we're talking about true indie artists, it's money. That's what the record labels are. They are a bank, they fund things, they have connections. They're a bank with connections. So if you don't have those connections and you don't have the money, you'll never make it as far as a major label artist. But if you have money and you have connections, you have the ability to do it yourself. So I think if you're going to talk about truly what's holding an indie artist back, it's money. Alright, next, Jamie. Love the way the show flows lately. It feels tighter, sharper, and honestly, it's a little bit more fun than national shows. Jamie?
Tiffany Mason:All right.
Jay Franze:I will take that.
Tiffany Mason:Thank you.
Jay Franze:Leila? L E I L A?
Tiffany Mason:Layla.
Jay Franze:Layla or Leela?
Tiffany Mason:Layla.
Jay Franze:Layla. Let's go with Layla. Tiffany. I hate the ones that start off with Tiffany. There's so many that start off with Tiffany. It's like, can you think of a different way to start something off? Tiffany. Whatever you're doing with your on-air energy lately, woo. It's giving seasoned host flair and chaos in the best way. I love it. I don't even know what that means.
Tiffany Mason:Well, there has been definitely chaos. Don't know what it means.
Jay Franze:Wes, how much does char position really matter anymore? Are artists still chasing billboard the way they used to? Or is it just the hype? Is that hype fading? I would say I don't think char position really matters anymore. I think that's a controversial stance, but I don't think it really does matter anymore. I think it matters if you want to get paid. If you are a songwriter.
Tiffany Mason:What puts them on the chart?
Jay Franze:The money that gets behind an artist, like a record label promoting their artist, I think that has a lot to do with it. You have the ones that make it naturally, but it's fewer and further between.
Tiffany Mason:So do you think that the better unit of measurement is streaming?
Jay Franze:You know what? Oh man, I I would hate to say it, but yeah, I mean, but even that can be faked. That can be faked very easily. You can buy streams, record labels are buying streams. I mean, it's ridiculous. When these people are hitting millions of streams, a lot of that is bull. So you know, I hate to say that too, but it is. It's it's bull. So it's kind of unfortunate. But that's okay.
Tiffany Mason:Okay, so wait, what was the original comment?
Jay Franze:How much does char position really matter?
Tiffany Mason:So not that much.
Jay Franze:Are artists chasing Billboard the way they used to? Or is the hype fading?
Tiffany Mason:I think the hype is fading. I think it's a nice bragging rate. You know, it's like fun to post somewhere.
Jay Franze:I think it's great to have number one plaques and number one parties and all that stuff if you're hitting number one. Yep. But if we take it away from the artist and go back to the songwriter, it means a lot. Because that songwriter can say they had a number one hit. And if that songwriter's getting a number one hit, then other artists want that songwriter to write for them. Not to mention that that songwriter's getting a payday. Now that payday may not be what it used to be.
Tiffany Mason:So maybe the artists are not pursuing the charts, but maybe the songwriters are pursuing the charts.
Jay Franze:I mean the charts definitely still matter to the songwriter.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:All right. Zane Big Country. Zane, Big Country. He's got a last name too, but I'm not gonna read it.
Tiffany Mason:He's got himself a Ford 350. 350.
Jay Franze:Nice, super duty. Jay, your questions sound like they come from someone who's been in the trenches. It makes the artist open up in a way you don't hear anywhere else.
Tiffany Mason:I would agree with that. I think you have a good way of building trust. And when the artist trusts you, they're more willing to drop their guard and be a little bit more authentic. So I would agree with that.
Jay Franze:He mentions McBride and the Ride. McBride and the Ride had a couple stories that were released during that episode that you will not hear anywhere else. Running around naked through a hotel or talking about having a small penis. Oh, yeah. So two things that you probably wouldn't find anywhere else. I will take that as a compliment. Thank you, big country. Big country used to be an MMA fighter.
Tiffany Mason:Oh wow, cool.
Jay Franze:Don't know if it's that big country. If it is, I'll be thrilled. Hey, big country, go ahead and throw that in the comments.
Tiffany Mason:Let us know.
Jay Franze:Aaron, Tiffany. I mean, it starts off. We can't even just throw that a little later in the comments.
Tiffany Mason:They want to know. They know. They're like, I'm gonna get her attention.
Jay Franze:Aaron says, Tiffany deserves her own segment called Tiff's Truth Bombs. Now we know that's not gonna happen because Tiffany doesn't like Tiff. But Tiffany deserves her own segment called Tiff's Truth Bombs. Okay. Tell us some truth bombs, girl.
Tiffany Mason:I'll tell you LA. You know, I'm one of those people, if my mouth doesn't say it, my face will. So sometimes I gotta just let the truth out.
Jay Franze:DJ Longhaul. DJ Longhall. You think so?
Tiffany Mason:Or he's packing.
Jay Franze:It says haul. Long haul. Long haul. What's your take on genre blending? Is country becoming more open-minded or is it losing its core sound? I would say it's losing its core sound. I'm more of a purist. I want if I want to hear pop music, I'll turn on a pop station. If I want to hear you know RB or hip hop, I'll turn on those. But at the same time, it's hard because I like some of those songs. I just have a hard time calling them really country anymore.
Tiffany Mason:I also think though, like with Laney Wilson, Zach Top, they're bringing country back.
Jay Franze:I don't know if that was necessary.
Tiffany Mason:That's not country. Um, but it does feel like that. It does feel like that. Um, I don't know, country of roots, like they're more strong with those artists.
Jay Franze:Yeah, I I mean I know all music uh evolves. But if all music you know starts collaborating and morphing into each other, then we're gonna just end up with one style of music.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah.
Jay Franze:I prefer keeping the genres split. I like country music being country music.
Tiffany Mason:I want people to collab still, but if you're gonna be a pop artist and collab with a country artist, you're the feature, then it should sound country. If you're the pop artist and it's a country artist being featured, then it should probably sound like pop. Like I want the main artist to stay in their lane, and then the feature person can just kind of you know have a spotlight in the pop song or a spotlight in the country song. But I would agree with you.
Jay Franze:What about when you get an artist like Chase Matthew, who does the country club music and there's no featured artist? It's just Chase with uh, you know, club beat behind it.
Tiffany Mason:I then I'm with you. I want it to sound more country.
Jay Franze:You know, I don't mind inspiration or, you know, like when Jason Aldean adds a little flair to a song, but I don't want the song to be 100% that flair I want. Otherwise, it's no longer flair. You just recorded a pop song.
Tiffany Mason:Well, it's funny, my mother-in-law is visiting and made a good point about country music. Well, yeah, about country music, and she was saying how she really appreciates, you know, the 90s artists, and she was like, when they sing, you can really tell who it is. And she said, with all the synth and everything that goes into some of these songs, you know, you don't hear real instruments and the voices are starting to sound similar to each other. And I was like, okay, I think there's some validity in that statement.
Jay Franze:Yes, I've always said when people ask me, you know, what my favorite music is, even my daughter was asked me that the other day. My daughter Bella, my 15-year-old eldest daughter, was asking me what my favorite style of music was. And I always say rock or hard rock and country. Those are my my favorites, rock and country. But I think it's traditional instruments. Like even when you do folk music or you do bluegrass music, as long as it's traditional instruments, I can get behind it. It's when you start using a bunch of non-traditional instruments or samples or you know, things like that where I kind of lose my my interest. You're no longer my favorite. Let's put it that way. All right, I'm highlighting a few here that I think are good for us to end off with. Let's see, I've got three more.
Tiffany Mason:Okay.
Jay Franze:All right, let's start with. We must be popular with truckers. You think that's a thing? Highway Harper.
Tiffany Mason:You know what? They are on the road a long time, and they need something other than the radio to keep them. They need two cool cats. Do me a favor.
Jay Franze:I want you to honk that horn right now. As you pass through town, honk it three times. I want to know you're here. All right. Highway Harper says, J man, when you're passionate about an artist that you believe in, that's when the show takes on a whole new gear. More of that, please. When is an artist worth talking about? We want to talk about them for sure. All right. Um L I A N A.
Tiffany Mason:Lena? Elena?
Jay Franze:Lisa? Laura?
Tiffany Mason:Marie.
Jay Franze:Marie. There you go. Marie says, no. Liana? I don't know. I feel like Liana? Liana? Let's go with Liana. Okay. Liana. And if we're wrong, please put it in the comments. We don't mean to butcher it. We truly do want to treat you with respect. We just don't know how to do that. For multiple reasons, we don't know how treat you with respect.
Tiffany Mason:It's mostly Jay. You know, like how they say, like, it's me, it's not you. Yeah. That's what they're saying. It's definitely me.
Jay Franze:Liana says, with so many artists recording remotely, do you think that the Nashville Studio magic is starting to disappear? Or is it just evolving? Ooh, Liana, you hit a big one there. Unfortunately. I think it is disappearing. This has been something going on, you know, let's let's say for a while now. Let's say the past 20 years. It's been getting more and more where record labels and artists don't want to pay the big studio prices anymore. So what they've been doing is they go in the studio to record their basic tracks. Which means that they go in the studio with the eight musicians, they play the basics of the song, and then the producers have been taking those recordings back to their home and doing the overdubs, whether that be the guitar solos or utility players, a fiddle or a mandolin. And then they do the vocals and the background vocals. So they do that because of how easy it is these days with Pro Tool systems being so readily available that these people can now go home and record. So that's been going on for quite a while. But now it's taking that step even further and further with people programming music with AI being able to play music. People can now take a non-treated environment and create a very good sounding product. So, yes, you're losing the magic of those eight players in the room playing the basic tracks of those songs. And even when the producers were taking those eight players from the studio and taking them home, you're losing the magic of the singer and the background vocals and the fiddle player all being in the big studio with those players and spending time recording a song together as a as a team. You turned it into more of an individual layering sport versus a team effort. So do I think it's losing its magic? Unfortunately, you know, I really do think it is. Sorry.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, and with like how we've been talking about how AI, you know, making tracks that way. Um shoot, I was gonna make another point.
Jay Franze:Uh it hurts sometimes. I think unfortunately, especially in Nashville with all the big studios closing, we're gonna get less and less and less of that as time goes on.
Tiffany Mason:That was my other point. Thank you.
Jay Franze:Oh, you're so welcome.
Tiffany Mason:Yes, that music row has changed so much. Yeah. So I think the landscape, the actual physical landscape is starting to change as well.
Jay Franze:All right. I said I would give you one more, and then I saw that it starts with the word Tiffany.
Tiffany Mason:Oh gosh.
Jay Franze:So I m moved on to see if I could find another one.
Tiffany Mason:He dog.
Jay Franze:And I found another one that starts with the word Tiffany. So we can either do two more, or I can tell you the two names and you can choose which one.
Tiffany Mason:Um, we can do one. Tell me the two names, and I'll choose. Well, for sake of you know, listener entertainment.
Jay Franze:Tina or the real Maggie Mae.
Tiffany Mason:Wow, how fun is it to say the real Maggie Mae? Well, the real Maggie Mae, please stand up. Please stand up.
Jay Franze:All right. Tiffany, you keep the show grounded. You add the heart in the perspective that we didn't know we needed.
Tiffany Mason:Aw. Well, you're very welcome, Maggie Mae.
Jay Franze:Oh. And Tina says, Tiffany. I can't bring up her name and not read her comment. Tiffany, thank you for being the voice of the listener. I swear you're asking the questions that I'm thinking.
Tiffany Mason:Oh, good. Good. Happy to do so. There you go. Sometimes it's intimidating, honestly, because Jay, you're like so experienced and know all the right terminology. And you know, you've been there, done that, and have all this experience. And I'm just like, I like music.
Jay Franze:What is going on with you this week, my friend?
Tiffany Mason:Well, I finally got to go see Steven Quinn. You guys have heard me talk about him and brag about him, and I finally got to go. I almost got to go on Friday night, I think Friday night, and then that ended up falling through. So I was like, okay, I'm just gonna stick to my original plan. I'm gonna go on Sunday, but I thought my daughter had a flag football game, and she did not. So she actually came with me and we got to go check out Steven Quinn and listen. And she was ecstatic because he played some Morgan Wallen cover tunes. So she was, you know, over the moon excited. No, and then it was really difficult. Okay.
Jay Franze:Does she realize that her night out was really gonna be parent neglect?
Tiffany Mason:Well, it wouldn't have been full parent neglect. She plays two games.
Jay Franze:Yes.
Tiffany Mason:She plays two games. I would have seen one full game and watched half of the other. Yeah. So at that point, my parental duties have been fulfilled and I would be leaving her with her father. So zero guilt, and I would have gone on my married pay. But this was more fun to have her come with. And you know, I played some of his music for her. So it was fun to have her hear him play it live. And then her friend, who has taken vocal lessons for years, and she looked at me and she's like, he can really sing. And I was like, right? He sounds so good. So it was fun that, you know, she has some vocal knowledge and could vouch what I think sounds good actually is good. And he just has a ton of personality. So he was having a good time. His family was there, friends were there, and of course, myself. So we had a good time. Of course, of course, because we all know as Chris Kizia sings, turn the night on. I'm turning the night on.
Jay Franze:So it's gonna rub its hair.
Tiffany Mason:And then and then tonight, my little baby granddaughter. I can't even believe I am a grandmother, but I am. And she turned one. 84. So we got to yep, about 85. And I got to um I we got to celebrate her and watch her dig into the cake for the first time. Nothing's better when the baby than when the baby realizes like, wait a minute.
Jay Franze:Smash cake.
Tiffany Mason:Yes, smash cake. And they realize that they can like devour the whole cake. So she started, you know, petite where they just lick a little bit of frosting and then she just went in for it like three or four times for just mouthfuls. So that was really awesome. So very good week here. And actually, Stephen Quinn is going to be performing again on Sunday before he heads back up to Nashville. So I think I'm gonna try to catch him one more time.
Jay Franze:Not bad.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, I'm very excited. Did you end up going to Laurie's Roadhouse? Laurie's Roadhouse.
Jay Franze:Laurie's Roadhouse. Laurie. L-O-R-I apostrophe. Laurie. Laurie. Laurie's Roadhouse. Yes, I went to Laurie's Roadhouse. I took my daughter Bella.
Tiffany Mason:Nice. Which is somebody finally went with you.
Jay Franze:So good time for me. And it's always funny for me to take my, well, this one was 15, but I took my 11-year-old to see Johnny James to a bar.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, yeah.
Jay Franze:I'm parent of the year for sure. We were walking in, Bella goes, Do I get to drink beer tonight?
Tiffany Mason:Now, do you ever get dirty looks like, sir, you are way too old to be dating this young girl?
Jay Franze:Well, I thought you were gonna say dirty looks for taking a minor into a bar. Bella looks like she's old enough to be in a bar.
Tiffany Mason:Right.
Jay Franze:She doesn't look like she's old enough to be dating me.
Tiffany Mason:So well, sometimes they don't look old enough to date the men that they're dating, but they're still dating them. And I just remember my dad used to get just dirty looks. Like he'd be like, Can I take you out for lunch? We'd go to lunch. I'm having lunch with my dad. And the people would just give him just nasty looks like you should not be dating her.
Jay Franze:I like to think that people realize that it's my daughter, but no, I don't even want to think about it. No, it's my daughter. No, I don't get dirty looks at all. People all know that. I mean, helps that I can make her wear a hat that says daughter on it, but you know.
Tiffany Mason:Yeah, this is my daughter.
Jay Franze:On the back, it says I'm still 12. Don't look here, I'm 12.
Tiffany Mason:The other day somebody asked Hannah how old she was, and the person was like, Oh, I would have guessed you like literally five years older than what she actually is, and I was like, That's a problem.
Jay Franze:That's when you say stop. You know what? You shouldn't be thinking about it.
Tiffany Mason:Right. All right, but yes, let's not worry about how old she is.
Jay Franze:I took my daughter Bella to see Cory Hooker in the Cadillac Preachers.
Tiffany Mason:Okay, great name. Sure, she loved that.
Jay Franze:It's a good name, and she did enjoy it. It was fun.
Tiffany Mason:How did you rope her into coming to see them? Because if I would have told Hannah that name, she'd been like, no.
Jay Franze:I think it was more of I said, Hey, I'm gonna go to Laurie's Roadhouse tonight. I'd like to take you. You want to check it out? You know, I took her and she actually had dog training. This was a Friday night, so she had dog training. I had to wait for her to come home for the dog training. So we got there and we ordered some dinner, and there was a single, you know, an artist playing a solo gig with just an acoustic guitar. We didn't know if that was Corey or not, because at this time we did not know who Cory Hooker was. Now the name says and the Cadillac Preachers, so I assumed it was a full band. So when my daughter and I were talking, I'm like, I hope it wasn't just a solo gig tonight. I was kind of excited to see the band. But the solo artist was really good. I don't know who it was. I need to find out. But we we watched that and we watched like the remaining three songs, and then Corey and the band came on, and we got to see the the full band play. It was very good, and his wife was selling merch, and it was handmade merch. So, I mean, it really a hands-on team for sure. It reminded What does that mean?
Tiffany Mason:Like a t-shirt that his wife pressed the transfers or what?
Jay Franze:Yeah, I don't know. Like she painted them. I mean, how was it handmade? Stitch stuff. I mean, she did okay. I mean, she did it all. I mean, it looked really, really impressive, but it had a home homemade feel to it. It was really, really nice, really cool. Cool. So, and she was a very nice person too. But we sat there, we watched the show, it was very good. Like I said, I've never seen them before. This was something that I just went there thinking, you know, hey, this sounds like it could be a cool night. Yeah. So we went, we enjoyed it. I reached out to him after the fact, told him I enjoyed it, and we started talking, and I asked him to come on the show. So he is gonna be coming on the show. Fine. We will get to talk to him. I think it's tomorrow night. Or was it Thursday? I think it was Thursday. We were gonna do Thanksgiving night.
Tiffany Mason:No, so no, our families would not be happy with us.
Jay Franze:My family's never happy with me. But, anyways, yes, Cory Hooker and the Cadillac Preachers, they were a very good band. It was very fun, and like I said, he has agreed to come on the show.
Tiffany Mason:Awesome.
Jay Franze:Looking forward to that. All right, let's crash it.
Tiffany Mason:Let's crash it.
Jay Franze:All right, folks, we have reached the top of the hour. We've actually reached the top of hour number two, which does mean we have reached the end of the show. If you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend. I know we say it a lot, but if you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend. Miss Tiffany, if you have not, tell two. Tell two. You can reach out to the two of us over at jfranzie.com. We will be happy to keep this conversation going. Actually, we'd probably like to talk about something else. Yeah. Reach out to us over there. We'll talk to you about something else too. Either way, whatever works for you. You can also find our socials and anything else you want to know about us over there, over at jfranzie.com. Miss Tiffany, my friend, do you have any final words for us tonight?
Tiffany Mason:Yes, it's been another great episode in the books. We appreciate you tuning in and being part of the crew. We are very thankful for our crew members as we approach Thanksgiving. I hope you guys all have an awesome Thanksgiving, an awesome week, and we'll see you next week.
Jay Franze:On that note, folks, have a good night. Thanks for listening to the Jay Franzi Show. Make sure you visit us at JFranzi.com. Follow, connect, and say hello.