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40 Most Played Songs of 2025, Best Lead Singer, and Country Music News

• Jay Franze / Tiffany Mason • Episode 186

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The biggest country hits of 2025 tell a story the charts won’t say out loud: radio still gives men the mic. We dig into the top spins, trace the patterns behind programming decisions, and ask whether “audience demand” is real taste or a habit formed by gatekeepers. From Morgan Wallen’s multi-track dominance to a rare female breakout, we map how rotation rules, label strategies, and collaboration trends keep certain voices front and center while others fight uphill.

We also widen the lens beyond airplay. Miranda Lambert’s new unscripted series brings her storytelling grit to TV, proving artists can grow cultural impact even when radio lanes narrow. Bailey Zimmerman’s viral generosity toward his mom, Jesse Keith Whitley’s hard restart, and the passing of Opry great Stu Phillips remind us why country resonates: real stakes, real lives, and communities that show up. Add in a spirited debate on performance and vocal power—a live bracket spanning Freddie Mercury, Steve Perry, Prince, and Geoff Tate—and we hit the sweet spot where craft and showmanship meet legacy and data. Spoiler: a theatrical rock titan takes the crown.

You’ll also get a clear explainer on RIAA certifications, a peek into Cody Johnson’s authenticity test for outside cuts, quick-hit chart rundowns across country and indie lanes, and a stack of listener questions on A&R, artist development costs, and the manager roles that actually move careers. We keep it candid, practical, and human—equal parts industry intel and fan-heart fuel.

If this conversation challenged your assumptions or gave you something worth sharing, tap follow, send it to a friend, and leave a quick review. Tell us: who deserves more spins, and who’s your all-time lead singer? Your take might kick off next week’s bracket.

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Jay Franze:

And we are coming at you live. I am Jay Franzi, and uh with me tonight the Patrick to my Spongebob, my beautiful co-host, Miss Tiffany Mason.

SPEAKER_06:

Hey, SpongeBob. Maybe we shouldn't do that.

Jay Franze:

If you are new to the show, this is your source for the latest news, reviews, and interviews. If you would like to join in, comment, or fire off any questions, please head over to jfranzi.com. Wait a minute. Bop, bop.

SPEAKER_03:

Wait. All of a sudden I'm having a moment. Do you think there's a loose connection between Beavis and Butthead and SpongeBob and Patrick? Because Patrick, right? Beavis or Butthead, I don't know what, whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh must be Butthead, because he's like, hey, Beavis. And I feel like Patrick is like, hey, Spongebob. I think I feel like it's a similar technically they're cousins.

SPEAKER_03:

SpongeBob and Patrick? Or Beavis and Beavis?

Jay Franze:

Beavis and Patrick.

SPEAKER_02:

What are you talking about?

Jay Franze:

They're cousins. In real life? Do you not pay any attention to any of that stuff?

SPEAKER_02:

I guess not. No, I have no idea. Total sex.

Jay Franze:

Why do you believe everything I say?

SPEAKER_02:

Because I trust you, Jenny.

Jay Franze:

That's frustrating.

SPEAKER_03:

And don't you see gullible right here? Right here on my forehead? Gullible. Nice.

Jay Franze:

Alright. Before we get started, before we get any more crazy in our shenanigans. Let me tell you about the question of the day. Question of the day. Who is the best lead singer of all time? Who is the best lead singer of all time? This has been brought to you by Stephen.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Thank you, Stephen.

Jay Franze:

Alright, we're gonna go ahead and kick this off with an article. Imagine that.

SPEAKER_03:

No. Oh, seriously. Well, something different tonight.

Jay Franze:

This is an article that I found that we're gonna review. The 40 most played songs of 2025 with a twist. These songs reveal a disturbing trend.

SPEAKER_03:

Mmm, let's see if we can spot the trend.

Jay Franze:

Let's see if we can spot the trend. So do you want me to go over that portion first or at the end?

SPEAKER_03:

I kind of like it at the beginning, so then we have criteria. We know what we're looking for.

Jay Franze:

Well, you just said you wanted to see if you could spot the trend, which would insinuate that we're gonna do the unveiling of the channel.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, okay, let's keep everybody at the edge of their seat. Okay. Let's do that. Okay.

Jay Franze:

We're not doing all 40, right? Let's do 39.

SPEAKER_03:

Dear Lord, I hope not. 39?

Jay Franze:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. That's a more a more well-rounded number.

Jay Franze:

We're gonna do the top 20. If you want to see the rest of them, maybe I'll put the link in the show notes.

SPEAKER_02:

TFB.

Jay Franze:

Maybe. Alright. Number 20, backseat driver, Kane Brown.

SPEAKER_03:

Love it.

Jay Franze:

Okay, so no, no trend yet. Number 19, Friends Like That. John Morgan and Jason Ldean.

SPEAKER_03:

I can't pull up the song, so I don't know.

Jay Franze:

Trend yet? No, it's too soon for a trend. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Everybody's in a truck.

Jay Franze:

Number 18, Country House, Sam Hunt.

SPEAKER_03:

Ooh, I love Country House. Country House backseat driver. Again, I feel like it's family. But you said it was a disturbing trend, right?

Jay Franze:

Did I say disturbing?

SPEAKER_03:

Family can be disturbing. That's true.

Jay Franze:

If you meant mine, it does say disturbing.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, disturbing trend. Okay. Disturbing trend. Country house. He's chopping wood. He's going around his fresh patch of beans.

Jay Franze:

You said wood. Number 17. I never lie. Zach Dolph.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh no trend. No trend there.

Jay Franze:

Oh, I'm seeing a trend already.

SPEAKER_03:

Everything's by Morgan. No. You see a trend already, just in the titles?

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I see a trend already. I don't know if it's the trend, but I see a trend.

SPEAKER_03:

I already speculated.

Jay Franze:

I haven't seen a female on this list yet. It's all male.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. I don't think that's it.

Jay Franze:

Okay, moving on.

SPEAKER_03:

Nah, debunked.

Jay Franze:

Number 16. Single again. Josh Josh Cross. Ross. Let me make sure I say this one. Josh Cross. Again, we both know we like the song. We're both fans of him. A bar song. Shaboozy.

SPEAKER_03:

Your your theory still tracks.

Jay Franze:

Alright, moving on. Am I okay? Megan Moroni. Megan! We have a female.

SPEAKER_03:

We've got boobs. Okay. Am I okay? Thinking with backseat driver. I'm thinking with shabbozy. I don't know. I don't know.

Jay Franze:

Let's continue.

SPEAKER_03:

They all have AI incorporated.

Jay Franze:

Could be.

SPEAKER_03:

That could be disturbing.

Jay Franze:

Oh, number 13. What you didn't break, Nate Smith. Miss Kathy, are you with me?

SPEAKER_03:

Fix what you didn't break.

Jay Franze:

Says what you didn't break.

SPEAKER_03:

I know. I just thought the title was Fix What You Didn't Break.

Jay Franze:

Miss Kathy, you here? Number 12. Forever to me, Cole Swindow.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know the trend, Jay.

Jay Franze:

We only have one female.

SPEAKER_03:

But there's still a female.

Jay Franze:

Okay, I'm still going with it.

SPEAKER_03:

And maybe for 2025, but it's already debunked for 2026 because Ella Laney who was the bombshell from last week? Carter Faith and Miranda Lambert.

Jay Franze:

This is the most played songs. So you have to think radio. Just because they have singles out doesn't mean that they make the list.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, okay.

Jay Franze:

Number 11, Park, Tyler Hubbard.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

That's a song that it took you a while to come around to because you finally listened to the lyrics.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. I like it. Just came on the other day and I was like, ooh, I like this song now.

Jay Franze:

Numero ten.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh.

Jay Franze:

Whiskey drink. Chasing Alvine.

SPEAKER_03:

Come on, whiskey drink.

Jay Franze:

He's wearing a hat. I don't think that's the trend.

SPEAKER_03:

You just said wearing a hat and you're wearing a hat that has a T on it. Is it T for Tiffany?

Jay Franze:

It is. It is T for Tiffany.

SPEAKER_03:

I need to get me a baseball cap with a J. Yes.

Jay Franze:

Oh, so wrong. Alright. Biting my tongue. It's too early in the show.

SPEAKER_03:

Sorry. Talk about hats. You distracted me. Pretty butterfly. Couldn't help myself.

Jay Franze:

Happen to me, number nine, Russell Dickerson.

SPEAKER_03:

Russ. Good old Russ.

Jay Franze:

Good old Russ.

SPEAKER_03:

Happen to me. They do drive a truck to the concert, but.

Jay Franze:

Number eight.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh.

Jay Franze:

Just in case, Morgan Walton.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I like that song. I feel like I say that like 72 times throughout an episode, but I can't help it. I really like that. Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze:

If we didn't like it, we wouldn't be doing this stuff.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Jay Franze:

Number seven. Hometown home.

SPEAKER_03:

Low cash. Hometown home. I don't know, I was still talking about family, but a couple of them don't, so that doesn't work.

Jay Franze:

Number six. After all the bars are closed, Thomas Wright.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know. See, this is why I'm thinking criteria beforehand, even though it's more fun to be able to do that.

Jay Franze:

But it's not a criteria thing.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, most disturbing trend.

Jay Franze:

You want to know the trend beforehand and then see it play true.

SPEAKER_03:

When I read a book, sometimes start over. No, no. When I read a book, sometimes I will read the last couple pages because I'm like, what the hell happens? And then I will go back and I will read it for details. Like, okay, now I can handle it. And when my friends get ready to tell me stories, I'm like, cut to the chase and then tell me the whole story. Otherwise, the entire time I'm like, okay, so did you talk to him? So did you talk to him? If she'd be like, okay, so I talked to him and this is what happened. Then I'd be like, okay, cool. So sometimes I do need people to cut to the chase, and then you can unfold all the details you want, and then I am uh grounds for listening.

Jay Franze:

I can understand that. Reading a book? No.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jay Franze:

No, sorry. Your mother says she is here, by the way.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, hello, Mom.

Jay Franze:

Alright, number six. After all the bars are closed, Thomas Retz. Moving on to numero five. Liar. Jelly roll.

SPEAKER_03:

You know you liar. I don't know anything but other than the chorus, so I don't know. But it is all men except for Megan.

Jay Franze:

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

Number four.

SPEAKER_03:

Quattro.

Jay Franze:

Good news.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh.

Jay Franze:

Shabuzi number four. Good news.

SPEAKER_03:

I was gonna say positive message, but you're a liar. That's not a positive message. So yeah.

Jay Franze:

You are looking way too deep into this. It's gotta be something about radio. Why are these songs the most played songs on the radio?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I'm thinking maybe like if America's trying to come back to a simpler time and be more family focused, maybe that's why they're liking songs more about family. That's why I was thinking about that.

Jay Franze:

I think it's what we've been discussing all along that women don't get the fair shake. That labels and radio still are have it in their head that it's a man's world when it comes to the radio.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep. Yeah. No, I know, I knew where you were going with it, but I was trying to think of something other than that. I'd like to argue with you, Jay. I what would I agree with you?

Jay Franze:

You are a woman. You are the second wife, apparently. Number three, I'm the problem. Says Morgan Wallen.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank God you finally admit to it.

Jay Franze:

Clip that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Ah, number two, love somebody. Morgan Wallen. Now we're starting to see a trend.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, it's a Morgan Wallen dominated chart.

Jay Franze:

And number one. High road.

unknown:

Ah, I love it.

Jay Franze:

Co-Witzel, Jesse Murph.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, now tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.

Jay Franze:

Another trend, possibly. There's a lot of um collaborations. There's typically not that many collaborations.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, amen had a collaboration, right?

Jay Franze:

Stop the presses, folks. Kathy. Kathy says, I agree with Jay.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze:

With the fact that it's a man's world.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

At least on country radio, I think it is.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Spill de beans.

Jay Franze:

Alright. Why male artists still dominate country radio airplay?

SPEAKER_03:

You're right.

Jay Franze:

It's a programming thing. Or could it possibly be audience demand? Which is what we were talking about as well.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I think it's both. I think it's programming and audience demand. I don't think the radio would care what they program if the audience was demanding something else.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

But the the radio is specifically doing we've talked about in the past how record labels say they already have their female artist.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I think you would find it pretty hard pressed to play you know two female artists in a row on the radio. I think you're gonna hear male vocalists, you know, maybe two, three songs before you hear a female vocalist on the radio. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh when most people lose their hearing, do they lose high pitch first or low pitch first?

Jay Franze:

High pitch.

SPEAKER_03:

That's what I was thinking. So maybe it's like we can all hear the lower notes for the longer of our life.

Jay Franze:

I will tell you this. Carrie Underwood, her vocal range, as much as I love her, her fundamental frequency of her voice hurts my ears. And the fundamental frequency of a female vocal is painful to a male's ear.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I mean, good night, folks.

Jay Franze:

I'm just showing. I'm just throwing that out there. Mystery so I'm wondering why your husband gets mad every time you talk to him. Maybe talking to a deeper register or something.

SPEAKER_03:

I was singing along to a Carrie Underwood song, and I was like, God, I match her so well on all of her songs.

SPEAKER_06:

That's why it hurts so bad.

SPEAKER_03:

Mysteries solved on many levels.

Jay Franze:

The role of traditional radio still rules. Contrast between the charts and performance in now streaming. If we're looking at popularity, it is still a male-dominated world. Radio programmers often avoid playing too many tracks by the same artist too close together. This is why they're saying artists like Morgan Wallen, it's impressive that he's got multiple songs that are highest played throughout the year because you can't play them back to back.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

Jay Franze:

So they're saying new artists have a better chance of having their songs listed on this list.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

So that's good for Morgan.

SPEAKER_03:

Wait, how's that good for Morgan?

Jay Franze:

Because he's got multiple. That he was able to do it. Yeah, that he's got multiple songs on this list. Yeah. Now there are other female artists, Ella Langley, Megan Moroney, but what I didn't know, let's take a glance at what's above twenty.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Just to see. Twenty-one, John Party, Blake Shelton, Jelly Roll, Jordan Davis, Jackson Dean. I'm going from twenty up, just in case you're wondering.

SPEAKER_03:

Was it Havens de Batsy?

Jay Franze:

Yes, it actually was. Number twenty-five. Um twenty-six would be Dylan Marlowe in Dylan Scott. Jelly Roll again, Dylan Scott again, Scotty McCreary featuring Hootie and the Blowfish. Post Malone, Luke Bryan, Corey Kent, Jordan Davis, Ella Langley.

SPEAKER_03:

There's my girl.

Jay Franze:

There's another female. Luke Combs, Cody Johnson, Post Malone again, Riley Green, Bailey Zimmerman, and Drew Baldridge. Nonetheless. Females. There's not too many females on the list. Now, why is Laney Wilson not on this list? I find that hard to believe.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't. Just because of the timeline, I think. Next year, Jay. Next year. She'll get them next year. 2026, when we get ready in December. Cut this, mark it, whatever.

Jay Franze:

Producer, clip that. Bring it back.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep.

Jay Franze:

Alright.

SPEAKER_03:

Very exciting. Miss Miranda Lambert. She is working with Hulu for a series. She's going to be the executive producer on an unscripted drama from her shopkeeper management company, The Premises, described as little big lies gone honky tonk. So I don't know if you watched that, but it was a very good series. I think there's only two seasons, sadly. The series focuses on women helping a friend escape an abusive marriage, leading them to a Texas town full of secrets. The show is heavily inspired by her music-driven storytelling and Texas heritage. So that'll be pretty good. I could see because of my mama's broken heart, I just feel like that fits in to this. Like it's hard when somebody sings a song and you think that that is the epitome of them, but it's just a song at the end of the day that they're performing. Like Luke Combs sings a song uh Where the Wild Things Are, and he's talking about his brother on a motorcycle, and his brother hits the guardrail and ends up passing away, and they bury him.

Jay Franze:

He doesn't have a brother.

SPEAKER_03:

I know. So I looked it up and I was like, gosh, I wonder if if Luke Combs really went through this. So I looked it up and it was like, no, he doesn't have a brother. He never went through that. So I think it's funny that I think that Little Big Lies has very much of that mama's broken heart vibe to it, even though it could just be a song at the end of the day.

Jay Franze:

I'd like to see more from her.

SPEAKER_03:

Seems like she's very much expanding her resume.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I like that. I like the fact that she's succeeding because she had a lull for a little while and came back strong. I like it. I like her. I like her a lot.

SPEAKER_03:

Bailey Zimmerman had a great year. Great songs came out, and it was really fun. I don't know if you saw it on social media, but he gifted his mom a house and a car. A Cadillac. Yes. It was really cool to see a Cadillac Escalade. So of course, Christmas is not about presents or material items. But to be able to do something like that for your mom is so special. And it's obvious just how surprised and appreciative Christy is. I'm sure it's not something she ever could have imagined. And I have to think it was an amazing feeling for Bailey to be able to do that for his mama. Like, how cool to be like, here's a house. But wait, there's more. He had it in the garage and he had the garage door come up and someone drove out the escalade and she was like, What?

Jay Franze:

Yes, if I got my mother a car and a house, it'd be a matchbox and Legos. It's all right though. Keeps her busy.

SPEAKER_03:

Keeps her brain sharp. Okay, well, we're gonna turn the page a little bit. We're gonna go on a downward note, but. But still good. Okay. So Jesse Keith Whitley back on his feet. He is healthy and sober and ready for 2026, but he did have a serious hospital stay. Country singer shared that he's now sober, healthy, and focused on family and music. His update struck a powerful chord with his fans. Now Keith Whitley passed from alcohol-related, you know. It said in the article that, you know, while some people are s sympathetic to what he's going through or what he went through, other people are not saying, like, you saw your dad go through it. Why? Right. Yeah.

Jay Franze:

You mirror what your parents do.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

Jay Franze:

I mean, we talk about Keith Whitley. Do you realize his mother's Laurie Morgan?

SPEAKER_03:

No.

Jay Franze:

Huh?

SPEAKER_03:

Are you pulling my chain again?

Jay Franze:

No, not this time.

SPEAKER_03:

Now I can't trust you.

Jay Franze:

I would.

SPEAKER_03:

You can trust me.

unknown:

No.

Jay Franze:

You can trust me.

SPEAKER_03:

No. No. No. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on me. Oh.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Shame on you. Shame on you. But fool me three times, shame on me.

Jay Franze:

Don't worry. We'll get the third in there. We'll get all three in there.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, you ready for the next one?

Jay Franze:

No. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Well, it's gonna be kind of sad. Uh, country music lost a treasured voice as grand old Opry member Stu Phillips passed away on Christmas Day. The Canadian singers, career, touch fans across generations.

Jay Franze:

He was one of the longest serving members on the Opry, too. It's sad. It's sad.

SPEAKER_03:

Did you know Stu?

Jay Franze:

I did not know Stu. Still sad. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, oh, for sure. The loss of anybody is sad.

Jay Franze:

He was a minister.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah. Well, maybe it's fitting that the day that Christ was born is when he passed. That's a nice way to think about it. Well, let's talk about Miss Lady Wilson. I was very excited. Jay, did you see her perform with Snoop at the Lions Vikings game on Christmas Day? Jay.

Jay Franze:

I did not because I don't have your Netflix. Oh. However, I heard she is being trashed over it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and I don't really understand because it was amazing. Maybe like people are saying it was like one of their favorite performances, and I've got to agree. It was tasteful.

Jay Franze:

But what is it they were saying she imitated or stole from Beyoncé?

SPEAKER_03:

I think something about the way she dressed. But she wore one of her like little unit jumpsuits like Elvis.

Jay Franze:

Was bell bottoms and boots.

SPEAKER_03:

It was white, it was bell bottom, and it had all kinds of red gems on it.

Jay Franze:

Miss Kathy, I love you.

SPEAKER_03:

What'd she say?

SPEAKER_01:

Daddy Jade.

Jay Franze:

Now we get something going on. Alright.

SPEAKER_01:

Now you are gonna have to fix what his wife broke, mom.

Jay Franze:

She's already fixed it.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh yeah, I don't know. Hate is gonna hate. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, Jay? I will go back to it.

Jay Franze:

I will. And it's also weird, she performed with Snoop.

SPEAKER_03:

It was so good. The whole thing was so good. Also, I'm gonna butcher it, but I think it's Andre Bucelli was there. So like we had country, we had rap, and we had opera. Like it was so good. It was so good. Everyone did their own little song. Snoop did not like sing with Laney. Laney sang her own song. Although I did think it was kind of weird that she did write in on a sleigh on duck's lap. And I was like, why is Duck there?

Jay Franze:

This is an extra don't need.

SPEAKER_03:

He was dressed as Santa. Yeah, I that part I didn't think was necessary. Yeah, yeah. Little fiance, what you want. So she wants to be married, that's what she wants. Yeah. I loved it. I think she should have done everything she did, and I love that Laney is like such a spitfire that she's just like, take it or leave it, is who I am. I don't feel like she lets the social media get to her.

Jay Franze:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

I feel like that's cool.

Jay Franze:

When people were talking about her ass and stuff. I think it was bothering her, but she got over it quick.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Okay. Thank you.

Jay Franze:

Thank you, Miss Kathy.

SPEAKER_03:

Wink, oink, all right.

Jay Franze:

She's winking at me.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, she was saying Duck was just being Santa. Just Santa.

Jay Franze:

Whatever. I'll take it. I'll take a wink.

SPEAKER_03:

This is a man desperate for some attention, man.

Jay Franze:

Have you met my wife? Babe, just a joke.

SPEAKER_03:

Just a joke.

Jay Franze:

Just a joke.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, Trisha Yearwood had a busy 2025. She yielded two albums.

Jay Franze:

Not on the radio.

SPEAKER_03:

No, right? She had the one song that I liked, Mirror, I believe is what it was called. But yeah, Yearwood revealed that what began as plans for a single album turned into two full projects this year, including a holiday record and her creative flow took over. Maybe that's what happened when Morgan Wallen put 37 songs on three albums and released them all at the same time.

Jay Franze:

Yeah. I like Trisha Yearwood. She's a good example of somebody who, you know, reached their peak, fell off, but she was high enough at that time, like Carrie Under would would be as well, that they're high enough at that peak that they can take years off and still come back. Whereas somebody like Megan Moroni, if she took time off now, there'd be no coming back.

SPEAKER_03:

Nope. Agreed. Yep. Yep. Oh, I had something so funny to say. Oh, I came back already.

Jay Franze:

I think that's the funny part.

SPEAKER_03:

I was gonna say they left on a high note.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

You're right.

SPEAKER_01:

That was some funny stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Tiffany, you're fired.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep, they left on a high note, and that's why they can come back. Because that's where they still are. Like, you know, like uh when you meet somebody's kids, and the last time you saw them, they're like three and four, and then like ten years go by and you think they're still three and four. It's like we still think of Carrie Underwood like Claire up here. So when she comes back, we're just like, eh, there she goes, right back where she was.

Jay Franze:

It's like Shania Twain could come back right now.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes. She did last year. She toured.

Jay Franze:

She didn't make the top 40 list. She wasn't on the radio.

SPEAKER_03:

That's true. That's true. Okay. Well, a little funny ha ha behind the scenes look and a humorous holiday interview. Ha ha ha. Tyler Farr admitted to skinny dipping, and yes, peeing in fellow artist Jason Aldean's pool, underscoring the playful friendship between the two.

Jay Franze:

Okay. I can understand skinny dipping. Fine, you jump in the pool, but peeing in it as well. Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

I will never forget, as little kids, we'd go camping like almost every single weekend. And I loved when they had a pool. And for the longest time, I could not figure out that little sign that says like O-O-L, and it says, Notice there's no pee in our pool, please keep it that way. And I would be like, ooh, ooh. I would be like, it's missing the pea.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

The pea must have fallen off. No, there's no pee in the pool. Please keep it that way.

Jay Franze:

You ever go skinny dipping?

SPEAKER_02:

Hmm. Nope. Did you ever go skinny dipping, Jay?

Jay Franze:

I'm sure I have. Never have I ever. I cannot remember it a time, but yes, I'm sure I have.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, let's talk about Cody Johnson. So when he's looking for tracks, despite being written by somebody else, Johnson turns to the people closest to him, and it's not just about their opinion. He has to be able to trick them into believing that he has penned the song. It's an experiment he has done for years, and it has served him well. So he presents the song to people he loves, they give feedback. If they think he wrote it, he's in.

Jay Franze:

I always like it when I find a song somebody else wrote, and I go, Man, I wish I wrote that. You know, I like those moments, but then it also hurts because I wish I wrote that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Well, you know, Ella Langley was recently interviewed um talking about choosing Texas, and she was talking about how she and Miranda Lambert were goofing around and how she said like just one thing, and then Miranda riffed off of that, and then she riffed off of what Miranda said, and she's like, It was the easiest song I've written, like my whole career. She said we had it written in about 45 minutes. And then what's the one with Riley Green? Don't Don't Mind If You Do?

Jay Franze:

Oh, yeah, yeah. With Hello Langley.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, she said that was another one that was one of the quickest ones that she wrote. So you know, it hopes. I don't know.

Jay Franze:

I've woken up in the middle of the night with a song in my head and literally just turn roll over and sing it into a recorder or whatever and done. And then I've had some that have taken weeks.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I wrote a song this week in I took the whole week to make it just the way I wanted it to be. So you just never know. Sometimes they just spill out and sometimes they're like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Well, I think Taylor said that she's sat on songs for years before. Maybe you just need the right life event to round out the song, and then you can go, okay, now I can really appreciate it, or now, you know, more soul in it.

Jay Franze:

I like the songs more when they mean something to me. You know, when I've lived something or when I've experienced something or when I've seen something happen rather than trying to make it up.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Okay. Well, the next thing is Anna Christina Cash teams with Emilio Estefan Jr. for a bilingual holiday single. So they are joining together on a festive bilingual single blending Latin flair and seasonal country charm. I like when things are blended like that. I also wish that I knew part of Felice Navidad. I know like the main course, but I want to know the whole song, and I had it explained to me. Lots of times, if I know the story, I can remember the words, but no. I don't know. But I like it. And I did not know there was an Emilio Estefan Jr. The kid I dated in high school, everybody said looked like Emilio Estefan. Well, let's end on a high note, and I'm really hoping to pick your brain a little bit on this. Morgan Wellen became R I A's highest certified country artist ever. Jay, what is R IAA?

Jay Franze:

R-I-A-A. Recording Industry Association of America. They are the ones that track all of the songs, the plays, the sales, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03:

Will you please say what it is again? Recording industry?

Jay Franze:

Recording Industry Association of America.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

So yes, they are the ones that keep track of everything. They are the ones who who certify the platinum and gold records and all of that stuff. So I don't know if you remember when we were in Bob Bullock's studio, previous guest of the show. When we were in his studio, all of his plaques say R-I-A-A certified on them.

SPEAKER_03:

Ah okay. I think I do actually remember that.

Jay Franze:

A lot of people have plaques in their studio that are not certified. And that doesn't matter. I mean, you can have a plaque just to show that you worked on a project.

SPEAKER_01:

Sure.

Jay Franze:

I have probably, I don't know, 20 plaques. I'm looking over in my garage. I got about 20 plaques in my garage because I refuse to hang them up. That are, you know, just given to me from artists that I worked on their projects. It's very nice of them and I appreciate it. But one that is certified gold or platinum, those are the ones that have the sticker or the stamp on them.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Alright, so best lead singer of all time by Stefan. Stephen. Sorry. I'll do it every time, Stephen. However, he says best, so that means competition.

SPEAKER_03:

Paper.

Jay Franze:

Paper, pen. Alright, shall we talk about this best lead singer of all time?

SPEAKER_03:

Best, best, best.

Jay Franze:

Best. First one, right out of the gate. Mark says Freddie Mercury. Lead singer of Queen. Now, great voice. Great front man. Deserves to be on the list for sure. Angela went straight for Whitney Houston. Oh, Derek from Cincinnati. Chris Cornell.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Chris Cornell.

Jay Franze:

Alright. I'm going to go with Gene. This is the way I'm going to handle this in the future. Just so everybody knows.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow.

Jay Franze:

If you are typing in a name that I don't understand, I'm going to make one up. I'm going to look at the letters, and my dyslexic self is going to put them together in a way that means something to me.

SPEAKER_01:

You do you, Jay.

Jay Franze:

This says M Gene. Assuming Gene being the middle name. It also has a last name. I won't read it. But it is Duke.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

She feels so strongly about her decision that she did it twice. Freddie Mercury.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. I'll give it three marks.

Jay Franze:

Now we have a trend. Pammy 2512 says, I love Freddie, but I gotta go with Mick Jagger.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh.

Jay Franze:

Alright. Waterseeker 99 says Freddie Mercury.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh snap.

Jay Franze:

Aiden, Elvis Presley fan, says Freddie Mercury.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, trend.

Jay Franze:

Gabriel says Luciano Pavarotti.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, okay.

Jay Franze:

We're definitely jumping genres at this point. But that's okay. T nice sixty-one, says Freddy.

SPEAKER_03:

Should we just give it to Freddie?

Jay Franze:

Oh, Maya Project Music.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

Jay Franze:

Chris Cornell. Miss Kathy says, okay, you know I can't just pick one.

SPEAKER_03:

I come by it honestly, Jay.

Jay Franze:

She says if we're going with country music, she's gonna go with Johnny Cash.

SPEAKER_03:

Mmm.

Jay Franze:

If we're going with rock music, she's gonna go with Steve Perry.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Band Journey.

SPEAKER_03:

She's trying to get extra br bonus.

Jay Franze:

Alright. Cindy. See a name that I can pronounce. Just throwing that out there. Cindy says, you aren't gonna like this, but Stevie Nicks, Freddie Mercury. Third, Axl Rose. Talk about a variety. Cindy's got some some variety in her selections for sure.

SPEAKER_03:

So was she say say the say a little bit?

Jay Franze:

Stevie Nicks, Freddie Mercury, Axl Rose.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

In that order.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Christine John Fogarty.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

I don't know. I don't I've never thought of John Fogarty as the best front person or the best vocal.

SPEAKER_03:

Want him off the list? No, I'm not sure. I am just throwing it out there. No, you got yeah, chunk.

Jay Franze:

June. June says Elvis.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh.

Jay Franze:

I think that's a good choice. All right, Michael D. Thank you for coming back yet again. He says, well, my obvious answer is Steve Perry. Michael D. is a huge journey fan, and I appreciate him for that. However, there are so many other singers that could be mentioned for this as well.

unknown:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Scott says, and J.R. Richards. Says, however, there are many that he could say. Alright, Mike. Again, not the same Mike, no Mike D. This is Mike M. Okay. I think I know Mike M.

SPEAKER_03:

Multima Michaels.

Jay Franze:

I think Mike M. Mike Martin. I'm just gonna say his name. He works in the entertainment industry. He was the production manager for Stomp.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, oh. I saw Stomp.

unknown:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Thank you, Mike, for joining us. I appreciate it. He says, Dare I say? Bon Jovi when he was in his prime.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm.

Jay Franze:

And then he goes to the show. All right. Misty. Misty says Lizzie Hill.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I know you want it on there.

Jay Franze:

Well, yes, absolutely. Tristan. Tristan Marie. Future guest of the show. She will be. She'll be here. She says Freddie Mercury.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Scotty Simpson. Both names because well, previous guest of the show and bass player for the Oak Ridge Boys. He says Paul Rogers.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you know Paul Rogers?

Jay Franze:

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you want Paul Rogers on the list?

Jay Franze:

Paul Rogers probably deserves to be on the list. Dave Jackson. Again, both names, previous guest of the show, founder of school of podcasting.com. If you need a podcast, go see Dave. He says if we're going to go for a singer, it's definitely Steve Perry. If we're going to go for a frontman, it would be Freddie Mercury.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm going to give a vote to both.

Jay Franze:

And he said it would be just edging out David Lee Roth or Paul Stanley.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh. Okay.

Jay Franze:

Now, I can understand David Lee Roth. I don't know if I understand Paul Stanley, and I know Mike D. is a huge KISS fan. Paul Stanley being the guitar player and singer for KISS. Mike B. Three Mics No Ice.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh wow. Okay.

Jay Franze:

Brian from Lexington. Lexington, Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03:

One two three Main Street.

Jay Franze:

His phone number's five five five. Stephanie from Frankfurt, Kentucky. Catholic. Where you work? Where I work. Look at you. You you can be learned. Stephanie says Barbara Streisand.

SPEAKER_03:

Barbara. Oh, oh, oh. Let me just point out a trend.

Jay Franze:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Let's let's Mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, mail, Steven X. Mail, mail, mail, mail, Lizzie Hale.

Jay Franze:

There you go.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, who did she just say? I interrupted myself.

Jay Franze:

Barbara Streisand.

SPEAKER_03:

Barbara.

Jay Franze:

Oh. Tom says Steve Perry.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Rocalooch. Thank you, Rocalooch. She says Adele.

SPEAKER_03:

Ooh. Love me some Adele.

Jay Franze:

Jason says Marvin Gaye. Kelly says Celine Dion.

SPEAKER_03:

Ooh.

Jay Franze:

Mike B., our fourth Mike.

SPEAKER_03:

Says the Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, and no Mike.

Jay Franze:

Right. Says the obvious choice would have to be Bob Dylan.

SPEAKER_02:

Obviously.

Jay Franze:

I think he is being funny. Sarah with an H says Axel Rose.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Evans says Michael Jackson. And last but not least, Lisa says Prince.

SPEAKER_03:

Prince.

Jay Franze:

Alright. What do you say? Oh, no, you first. You know the rules.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Well. Per the usual. I got 26?

Jay Franze:

Or nothing?

SPEAKER_03:

I actually only have one. Only one came to mind. I don't know where this came from, though. This is very left field, and I don't I don't know, but I'm feeling compelled to still share. Meatloaf.

Jay Franze:

Whoa. Did you go back and listen to Paradise by the Dashboard Light?

SPEAKER_01:

Anything for loaf.

Jay Franze:

Did you go back and listen to it?

SPEAKER_01:

No.

Jay Franze:

No, you didn't, did you?

SPEAKER_01:

Why? Because it was the best.

Jay Franze:

No, that's what we were talking about last week. Meatloaf. Paradise by the dashboard light. I did go back and listen to the light. Started to play in the middle of the show.

SPEAKER_03:

Dashboard light. Paradise by dashboard light or something.

Jay Franze:

Paradise by the dashboard light.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I did go back and listen to it. Remember, I was like, I don't know it.

Jay Franze:

You listened to it during the show. You needed to go back and listen to it after the fact.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, again, I did.

Jay Franze:

Alright.

SPEAKER_03:

Um So no, it wasn't inspired by that.

Jay Franze:

I am gonna lean on a couple of the people here. Mike, Dave, Dave Jackson. I would say Steve Perry or Jeff Tate would be my choices. Steve Perry has got the best voice ever when it comes to a vocalist, and I think he was a great frontman. But Jeff Tate, absolutely amazing voice, and absolutely amazing frontman. Matter of fact, he's very theatric and they have like rock opera.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, right.

Jay Franze:

So he could kind of edge out for that reason.

SPEAKER_02:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

So let's put both of them on the list if you don't mind.

SPEAKER_02:

They're there.

Jay Franze:

Alright. And then I guess let's do them two at a time.

SPEAKER_03:

Alright. Paul Rogers or Paul Stanley?

Jay Franze:

Rogers.

SPEAKER_03:

Paul Rogers or Barbara Streisand.

Jay Franze:

Ooh. This is a tough one. Barbara's got the better voice. Paul was probably the better. Well, Barbara was a great show.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, and we just said vocals.

Jay Franze:

We didn't really say you made me change it to Frontman. Frontman, so Barbara.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Because it's vo to me that's vocals and performance. Performance or pizzazz or charisma.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Barbara Streisand or Bon Jovi?

Jay Franze:

I'm gonna go with Barbara.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Barbara or Stevie Nicks. Take it easy.

Jay Franze:

Barbara.

SPEAKER_03:

You answered too fast.

Jay Franze:

I didn't have to think about it.

SPEAKER_03:

Barbara or Axl Rose.

Jay Franze:

That's a tough one. Oh, I need to go with Axel just because of Miss Kathy, but I think Barbara.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh wow, okay. Okay. Barbara or Adele? Barbara. Okay. Barbara or Johnny Cash.

Jay Franze:

I'm still gonna go with Barbara. Better voice, like vocal range and everything, and she had a lot of charisma and put on a show.

SPEAKER_03:

Agreed. Uh Barbara Streisand or Bob Dylan.

Jay Franze:

Oh, please. Bob Dylan really made the list? Yeah, Barbara for sure.

SPEAKER_03:

I was being generous. Okay, Barbara Streisand or Michael Jackson.

Jay Franze:

Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Michael Jackson or Prince.

Jay Franze:

Ooh. I'm gonna go with Oh, that's a tough one. I am gonna go with uh Michael Jackson, even though that is as close as it's gonna come.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Michael Jackson or Jeff Tate.

Jay Franze:

Jeff Tate.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Jeff Tate or Celine Dion.

Jay Franze:

Ooh, that's an odd pairing. I'm gonna go with Jeff Tate. They both have amazing voices. They both put on a good show, but Jeff puts on a show.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Okay, Jeff Tate or Lizzie Hale.

Jay Franze:

Man, you do this to me every time. I love Lizzie Hill. I know. And Lizzie Hill has got an amazing vocal. I mean, vocal talent, vocal range, vocal everything. She puts on a good show, but Jeff Tate puts on the better show.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Jeff Tate or Steve Perry.

Jay Franze:

You suck.

SPEAKER_03:

You really boost my self-esteem, Jay.

Jay Franze:

I do what I can. Steve Perry, best vocalist ever, put on a great show. Jeff Tate is right up there with him, in my opinion. I'm gonna oh, I'm gonna have to go with Jeff Tate. Okay. If we're including on stage performances and all that stuff, just Operation Mind Crime and that whole thing that he put together, I have to go with it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, the creativity. Jeff Tate or Elvis?

Jay Franze:

Ooh.

SPEAKER_03:

How are you gonna beat those hip thrusts?

Jay Franze:

I think I have to go with Jeff Tate only because he's got a better voice.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Jeff Tate or Mick Jagger.

Jay Franze:

Jeff Tate.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Jeff Tate or Chris Cornell.

Jay Franze:

I'm still gonna go with Jeff Tate.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Jeff Tate or Maya Project Music.

SPEAKER_03:

Whitney Houston.

Jay Franze:

I'm gonna go with Jeff Tate only. You know, the vocals, they're right up there with each other. Yep. But performance-wise and everything, it's hard to beat everything that Jeff Tate does.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, and I need a drum roll, please.

Jay Franze:

Oh, drum roll.

SPEAKER_03:

Jeff Tate or Freddie Mercury.

Jay Franze:

You did that on purpose, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03:

Maybe.

Jay Franze:

Have we ever had a tie on the show? No, because if it was gonna be a tie, I would go with Jeff or Steve Perry. Or Freddie. Three-way tie. No, I'm sticking with Jeff Tate.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Okay. Jeff Tate is our winner. We should post that on the social post. Post the winner. I would like to point out dinner.

Jay Franze:

Very, very few country artists were put up on this list.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I think the whole front front singer alluded more to rock, like just generally speaking.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, I mean, because Kerry Underwood, you know.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Garth Brooks?

Jay Franze:

Well, showman for sure. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm yeah, I'm thinking more showman.

Jay Franze:

He was a demo singer in Nashville, so I mean he can sing.

SPEAKER_03:

No, you're right. You're right.

Jay Franze:

Um Kelly Clarkson would have been a good one, too.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

But again, if we're if we're including the show, which is where Jeff Tate really shines. Mm-hmm. I mean, his voice is amazing. And still to this day, he's performing here, his final go-around, apparently. He's going to be performing here in a a couple months. And I'm very tempted to go to it. But I mean, he still to this day, his voice, it's like he's never skipped a beat.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

You know, where Steve Perry, you can hear, he's still an amazing singer, but you can hear the wear on his voice. I don't hear the wear on Jeff Tate's voice.

SPEAKER_03:

Same age. Or performing roughly the same amount of time. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's talk about the charts. Charts. Let's go country charts and let's start at number 10. Hudson Westbrook is going to kick us off with the song House Again. And number nine is Blake Shelton, Stay Country or Die Trying.

Jay Franze:

Something about that John boat thing bothers me. And your friend and your boat both got the came John. No, come up with a better lyric.

SPEAKER_03:

Come up with a better lyric. Oh yeah, Mr. Boston Boy. Your Boston is showing.

SPEAKER_00:

Tiffany. You're fired.

SPEAKER_03:

No Trump. Okay, numero Ocho, Mega Moroni. Six months later.

Jay Franze:

I like it.

SPEAKER_03:

Make you blonder and smarter and hotter. Okay. Number seven is Hardy with a favorite country song. That's my favorite.

Jay Franze:

Is it really your favorite?

SPEAKER_03:

It's not my favorite, but I do kind of like it. When it comes on the radio, it feels like old, familiar. You know, it just feels good. Like a worn-in baseball glove. I don't know. I like it.

Jay Franze:

Like an old blanket.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. It's not my favorite, but I do like it. And number six, Mr. Chase Matthew with Darlin. Darlin. Vasica, you darling. Uh number five. Uh Tucker Wetmore. Three, two, one.

Jay Franze:

Go.

SPEAKER_03:

We don't normally have much to say about this song.

Jay Franze:

You know what? I don't mind the song, but it is not my favorite country song.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. I am a bigger fan of number four by Parmony called Cowgirl. Yeah. It's very uh, you know, bubblegummy. It's also got no meat to it, like Darlin. Right. But, you know, it's fun to sing along to. Well, a song that does have some meat to it is Mr. Riley Green in spot number three singing with his girl Ella Langley. I guess it's not his girl, but like his friend. Uh don't mind if I do. Okay, uh spot number two is gonna be Parker McCollum with what kind of man.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_03:

Parker McCollum with what kind of man. And the song we talked about, the song that has not given Laney Wilson the most plays ever in 2025, but it's gotten a lot of plays. I know. Spot number one, Laney Wilson, somewhere over Laredo. That's enough. That's enough. Cut that crap off. No full clap for you. Okay. The indie charts, spot number 10, The Church on Cumberland Road by Shenandoah and Nickelback. And seeing those two names, that's gotta be a good song.

Jay Franze:

Now, if it's Nickelback, is that the whole band?

SPEAKER_03:

Coat Lab. Probably. Just like Scottie McCreary and Hooting the Blowfish.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, but they came in to sing. Like, what's the bass player of Nickelback gonna do? Or the drummer? Are they gonna come in and are they playing?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I think so.

Jay Franze:

I'm gonna need to go check it out now.

SPEAKER_03:

Damn, I hate homework. I love homework. Because it means new music. Okay, guys, I can see him copy and pasting it, so he's really gonna make it homework.

SPEAKER_04:

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. Well, while he does that, fills out his homework. We're gonna go to spot number nine. Said no redneck ever by Aaron Goodvin. From spot number nine to spot number eight, smells like whiskey by Jesse G. Jesse G. Jesse G. From spot 12 to spot seven. So this guy's having a good moment. Could have been love. It could've been love. No, that's not what it is. By Brayden Hole. So it's by a dude. So it's not gonna be that song. Spot six, holding steady at spot six, Life's Highway by Soul Circus Cowboys with Andy Griggs. Well, the next one I really do like. It is from spot seven to spot number five, Perfume on My Jersey by Caleb Lathrop. You know what I notice about the indie charts versus the country countdown? Is that um the country charts seem to vary a lot, and they don't get to stick in any spot for a lengthy amount of time where it seems like the indie charts move a little slower.

Jay Franze:

The way it should be. You work that hard to get up to the top of the list, you can't just fall off.

SPEAKER_03:

One week later.

Jay Franze:

Okay, I have an answer for you.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

Jay Franze:

Yes, the whole Nickelback band participated in the collaboration with Shenandoah.

SPEAKER_02:

Good. Now we can all sleep tonight.

Jay Franze:

Chad is on vocals, and the rest of the band added their rock sound featured alongside of Shenandoah.

SPEAKER_03:

Nice.

Jay Franze:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, because I suppose, I mean, the point is relevant because they're both kind of bands, so yeah. Spot number four, and that is read by Jet Jergensmeyer.

SPEAKER_06:

Jergensmeyer.

SPEAKER_03:

Sorry, couldn't just well, spot number three from spot four is second hand smoke by Alex Miller.

Jay Franze:

Now you're just messing with me.

SPEAKER_03:

No! It's so unnatural for me to pause that long. I like to fill all space with noise. Okay, spot number two. Climbing from spot ten. Way to go. Is Kelly and Sarah with three sheets to the wind? Back it up. Number two. Three sheets to the wind by Kelly and Sarah.

Jay Franze:

Hey Kelly. Hey Sarah. Is it Sarah with an H?

SPEAKER_03:

Sarah with an H. Spot number one. Hell That I Call Home by Porter Martin. How are you gonna give him a longer clap than Laney Wilson?

Jay Franze:

Only because I forgot to shut it off. We talked about the length of time people stay on the Cindy chart. Where's Billy Joe Jones?

SPEAKER_03:

Hmm, touche. Shigan.

Jay Franze:

That's awful quick.

SPEAKER_03:

It's because the road was on. She's gonna be able to do that.

Jay Franze:

Number one, number two, number one, goodbye.

SPEAKER_03:

That's how it goes.

Jay Franze:

Ooh, that's rough. Billy Joe, you know you're still number one to us.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

Just throwing that out there.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep. We don't ditch you once the spotlight goes away.

Jay Franze:

She told me Merry Christmas.

SPEAKER_03:

She did? That was nice.

Jay Franze:

If you would like to send us a mailbag, some feedback, send it to feedback at jfranzi.com. We will be happy to read yours as well as Mark's and everybody else's. Mark says there's a big difference between gossip and context. And the context that you give is what keeps me coming back. Nice. Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Daniel, when Tiffany said that this is a PR nightmare, it had me laughing because, well, she's 100% right. Reference.

SPEAKER_01:

I love when people tell me I'm right. Yes.

Jay Franze:

It doesn't happen that often. Chris says, if you can't sell out a 200 cap room consistently, then well, you're not ready for radio, and streams do not equal fans.

SPEAKER_03:

Call our truth right there.

Jay Franze:

At least he's not dropping F-bombs this week. Angela, I love how the show flows. It feels like a real conversation. Not listening to bullet points.

SPEAKER_03:

You're welcome.

Jay Franze:

We should probably try some bullet points on time. Might flow a little smoother. Lisa says Tiffety's perspective always balances Jay's industry knowledge. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

We're like a yin and yang.

Jay Franze:

Or something.

SPEAKER_03:

Do you want to be yin or yang?

Jay Franze:

Huh. Haven't thought about that before. I thought I was going to say yin, but I think I'm going to go with yang.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah. I think you're more yang. I think I'm more yin.

Jay Franze:

Maybe my yang is yin. I don't know. Moving on, Mike D. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate it once again here for you know feedback as well. Not enough people talk about how expensive waiting in the music business is. Jay nailed this point how stalling careers is expensive when we were talking about record labels not wanting to produce artists or not wanting to develop artists because they could quit, or if they're not ready, they're not ready to let them go.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

Thank you, Mike D.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I guess I should have thought about that, but it didn't really occur to me until you said those exact words. But yeah, I mean they call it a ten-year town. I can only imagine how much money you spend in ten years.

Jay Franze:

Developing somebody. Rocalooch. Thank you, Miss Rocalooch. We always love having you here. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03:

And we like saying your name, Rocalooch.

Jay Franze:

I do. Although she says Rachel every week. She has never told us if she likes it. Rocalooch is a good one. Did you just make it up? No, Rocalooch is Rachel in Italian. We had that conversation.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I forget things sometimes.

Jay Franze:

That's true, you do. Rocalooch is Rachel Rachel in Italian. Or at least I That's what my family told me. I don't know if that's true.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, regardless, now she is Rocoluc.

Jay Franze:

Rocoluc, yes. But yes, my family is calling somebody Rocoluc. I said, Who is that? What are you talking about? They're like, Rachel. It's Rocoluc in Italian. I said, Oh, okay. Anyways, Rocoluc.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, we are very bilingual, Rocoluc and Numero Ocho. Not so much.

Jay Franze:

Numero eight. I put the show on during my commute, and I end up sitting in the driveway until it ends.

SPEAKER_01:

That's awesome.

Jay Franze:

I'm sorry. Sorry, we put it on the show.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm not. She's sorry. I say you're welcome.

Jay Franze:

Tom says labels don't need to develop anymore. They need filters. Too many artists, not enough patience. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

I think I would like more about that statement.

Jay Franze:

Giving Tom homework now.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Well, it's a man.

unknown:

Nice.

Jay Franze:

You are horrible. Dan says Jay, in your book, a story about learning the music business the hard way should be required listening for anybody moving to Nashville. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for reading my book. Thank you for buying my book. That's really the more important thing.

SPEAKER_03:

That was a really good book.

Jay Franze:

Was it though?

SPEAKER_03:

I thought it really was.

Jay Franze:

Alright. Sweet.

SPEAKER_03:

A very good manual. You shouldn't even call it a book. You should just call it a manual.

Jay Franze:

Kevin, are artist managers becoming more like an additional band member? I like it better when they're like an additional band member. Put a little skin in the game, be an extra member, go on the road with them, participate in everything, have everything firsthand. Now, what most people don't realize is there's two managers, your career manager and a road manager. So you have the person who's on the road with you at all times, and then you have the actual company that's managing you. Like when you were talking about the Laney Wilson documentary, and that person managing her, that's probably the road manager.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Keeping her in line when she's on the road, booking her hotels and arranging the travel and telling her what time she needs to go to catering and all that type of stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I'm sure the person handling the business side of the world is a company. Sitting in an office. A full company sitting in an office somewhere.

SPEAKER_04:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

But yes. Multiple managers. You can also have a finance manager.

SPEAKER_03:

That seems important.

Jay Franze:

It does seem like you'd be important. You need to realize too that a lot of artists, most artists, go broke.

SPEAKER_02:

I believe it.

Jay Franze:

They run out of money. Well, especially in the pop and rock world. Holy cow, they do such stupid things. You know, um what was the guy um You Can't Touch This?

SPEAKER_03:

MC Hammer.

Jay Franze:

Thank you. MC Hammer. He used to be my neighbor, by the way.

SPEAKER_03:

Cool.

Jay Franze:

Yeah, when I lived in California, he was my neighbor. But MC Hammer, he made millions and made such poor financial decisions he went broke. He's a minister at the church out there.

SPEAKER_03:

That's crazy.

Jay Franze:

So you want to see MC Hammer, go to California and go to church.

SPEAKER_03:

How many references to Can't Touch Us do you think he makes or too legit to quit?

Jay Franze:

I don't know. You think he's doing it or do you think people are doing it to him? I would hope people are doing it to him, but I have a feeling he's probably the one doing it. Trying to bring it back up. Angela. I didn't expect to care about the behind-the-scenes stuff, but now I love it. Mark, Mark D. Still don't know if it's the Mark D, but I'm gonna treat you like you are. Tiffany, quietly calling out the nonsense, is my favorite segment, even when it's not really a segment.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

I told Jay we should have a segment called Tiffanyisms, and he said the whole show is it Tiffanyism. Tiffanyisms.

Jay Franze:

Sarah with an H. This show makes me feel smarter without making me feel stupid.

SPEAKER_02:

Well that's good because I usually feel more stupid afterwards.

Jay Franze:

More stupid? Stupid or which is it? Is it more stupid or stupider?

SPEAKER_02:

I think you can use both. More stupid. Yeah.

Jay Franze:

Brian says, Jay, do you think artists should still be chasing publishing deals? I don't necessarily think artists chase publishing deals. I think artists chase record deals, and I think songwriters chase publishing deals. Do I think writers should chase publishing deals? Yes. Without a publishing deal, or not necessarily a publishing deal, like traditional, where you go to Nashville, you get signed by a publishing company, you sit in a room with two or three other people and you write songs, you know, every day at ten o'clock. Yes, that's one way of doing a publishing deal. But I had a publishing deal where I would just write songs and whatever I wrote, I would give to the publisher, they would publish them, and then they would try to put them in TV shows and movies, where in Nashville they try to put them in the hands of artists to cut them. So it's the publisher that makes the connections. You don't have those connections. That's what the deal is all about. So unless you have those kind of connections, yes, I think it's important to chase the publishing deal if you're a writer. If you're an artist, not so much. If you're an artist, you're the one going to the publishing company saying, Give me some songs.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

So, or your producer is anyway. Evan, name I have not seen here. Thank you, Evan. Social media managers are more powerful than AR right now. And that scares me.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

I don't know if there have been some famous or AR reps or people who are truly talented as an AR rep. But most AR reps are young kids who just have their finger on the pulse of what's going on at the moment. And I don't oh, it scares me. AR people scare me. Because they have no business sense. They're not musicians. They're just people who go to clubs and tell you who's doing well. And record labels fly through them. I mean, they're just disposable. Yes, there are the exceptions, so you can save the hate mail. But for the most part, they're disposable.

SPEAKER_03:

It'd be scary to be someone pursuing that position.

Jay Franze:

Well, yeah, I don't know. That's just it. I don't know if people pursue it. I think I think you're just, oh, you're at the label, you're doing something else, or you're an intern or something anyway. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

Then they give you like a fun title, like you want to be part of AR.

Jay Franze:

Yeah. You're young enough to go to the clubs here, you do it.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I thought you were saying I was young enough at first.

SPEAKER_01:

You're not young enough to go to the clubs.

SPEAKER_03:

No.

Jay Franze:

Dear God, no, you're with me.

SPEAKER_03:

Part of the old fogey crowd.

Jay Franze:

Wait, part of the old foge crowd. I had somebody text me today saying, you know, what are you doing for New Year's Eve? I said, probably going to bed at nine. They said, Yeah, me too. I said, Yeah, because we're old.

SPEAKER_03:

I know. I was kind of picking on my husband, Tahanna, that I was like, Well, dad won't be awake. I'll be by myself. Happy 2026. And then she was like, Well, why don't you go over to your friend's house? And I was like, No, that's too much work. I was like, Oh, then I'm gonna kiss somebody else.

Jay Franze:

Oh, Michelle.

SPEAKER_01:

It's for the young kids.

Jay Franze:

Michelle D. I'm starting to see the trend. Anyways, Michelle says Jay doesn't sugarcoat, but he doesn't crush dreams either.

SPEAKER_03:

Because he's the yang.

Jay Franze:

The yang to your yin. Oh, Rick. Rick says, I came for the artist, stayed for the conversation. This feels like kind of show that ages well.

SPEAKER_01:

Because we're we're aging well like fine wine.

Jay Franze:

I think we're falling apart. All right, two more. Angela. Thank you for joining us, Angela. I love when Tiffany pushes back just a little. It keeps the conversation sharp and honest.

SPEAKER_01:

That's why there's not many women in radio because they push back. Right.

Jay Franze:

Maybe if you sat back and relaxed a little.

unknown:

I don't know.

Jay Franze:

All right. And we're gonna end with Marie. This show feels like a mentorship. Dis oh, disguised. Sorry. My dyslexia. I saw a disgust.

SPEAKER_01:

See, it's tricky sometimes.

Jay Franze:

No, it's I'm I I swear I have to be dyslexic. I do not read words based on letters. I read them by shape.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. That's crazy.

Jay Franze:

That's a weird thing to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze:

This show feels like mentorship disguised as entertainment.

SPEAKER_06:

It's a little weird.

SPEAKER_03:

Sorry. It's a little weird. Sorry, I was noticing my mom is still on. Is she? Which it's late for her.

Jay Franze:

Oh, you're the kind of wine. That's making me want more. Miss Kathy. Oh, girl. Let's see if you can make it to the end. All right. On that note, let's discuss what's going on.

SPEAKER_03:

What's going on?

Jay Franze:

Okay. Billy Joe Jones.

SPEAKER_03:

Texas.

Jay Franze:

She's playing in Texas and Florida.

SPEAKER_02:

Fargo?

Jay Franze:

Fargo.

SPEAKER_02:

Farlow.

Jay Franze:

Florida.

SPEAKER_02:

Florida. Well, Florida. See? Florida.

Jay Franze:

Florida. How else do you say it?

SPEAKER_02:

It was your accent. Was it?

Jay Franze:

It was my accent. Oh.

SPEAKER_02:

It was your accent, and I was only half listening.

Jay Franze:

Anyways, Miss Billy Joe Jones, family member here at the show, will be playing on my birthday in Texas. Snap. There you go. She will also be playing a couple days after my birthday in Texas. Then she heads to Florida for at least three dates. Wow. Four dates.

SPEAKER_03:

But I think she's real far south, right? Fort Lauderdale.

Jay Franze:

Going to Key West.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Must be nice. I'll be up here.

Jay Franze:

Mm-hmm. Alright. Trey Calloway. Trey Calloway will be back in Tennessee. He'll be in Nashville. He will also be live streaming. He likes to do that. He's also playing on my birthday.

SPEAKER_03:

I want to live stream one of his shows.

Jay Franze:

He's live streaming one of my on my birthday.

SPEAKER_03:

I can't wait that long.

Jay Franze:

Because it's Tennessee Central Time, it's a late start time for me, too. Anyways, Trey Calloway, definitely worth seeing. For sure. Alright, Chad Bushnell. He is playing New Year's Eve at Rafter 3C Arena.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh. Ooh.

Jay Franze:

Hank's Honky Tonk in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I know where that is.

Jay Franze:

Do you?

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. Is that where your father-in-law lives?

Jay Franze:

Smyrna. Very close.

SPEAKER_03:

Did you first live in Murph Murphrees?

Jay Franze:

I lived in Murfreesboro.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

Jay Franze:

I bought a house in Murfreesboro.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes.

Jay Franze:

I probably shouldn't have done that. I bought a house in Murfreesboro. I was literally, I kid you not, I was just out for a drive. And I I lived in Bellevue, I think, at the time, Bellevue, which is on the far side, west side of Nashville, Tennessee. And I was just out driving, like for hours, just listening to music and driving around. I had no idea where I was. And I was in Smyrna of all places. And I saw townhomes for sale. So I stopped in to talk, met this lady, and she was very nice. And I said, Well, I was looking at a house, but I see these townhouses. She goes, Well, if you want a house, I could show you where I live. We have some houses for sale there. I said, Sure. Next thing you know, I'm following her. I have no idea where I'm going. And it's Murfreesboro. And I'm like, oh, these are really nice. I like this. Brand new development was really nice. I'm like, yeah, I like this. So I said, Yeah, I'll take it. Right there, right on the spot.

SPEAKER_04:

I'll take it.

Jay Franze:

So I filled out everything, took the house. I I was, I mean, this thing was beautiful. I loved it. And then I drove back to where I was living. It took me forever. I was like, where the hell did I just buy a house? So I went from from the far west side to the far east side.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you did.

Jay Franze:

So there you go.

SPEAKER_01:

That's crazy.

Jay Franze:

Sorry. Chad Bush, no. He'll be playing in Murphy's Boro. Oh, McKenzie Phipps.

SPEAKER_01:

Jay's fate changed forever.

Jay Franze:

Yeah. McKenzie Phipps, she will also be in Nashville. She will be um Margaritaville, Old Red, Margaret Vita, Margaritaville, and back to Old Red. Nice. And then Terry McBride. He will be playing in Texas.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh snap.

Jay Franze:

Nice. I would like to see Terry McBride play. I've never seen him play live. I would like to see him. If you have an opportunity to go back and listen to his episode of McBride and the Ride, they tell some of the best stories. Some of the all-time best stories for this show for sure. Alright, and we'll end it here on the Oak Ridge Boys. They will be in Texas, Texas, Texas, Texas.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, praise Jesus. First of all, it's a big state. But also, the last time we talked about their tour dates, it was like ping ponging.

Jay Franze:

Oh, yeah. They're gonna be in Texas for the next four shows, and then they go to Nashville for at least three, and that's all I see. I guess I could click on more. So yeah, and then they go to Florida.

SPEAKER_03:

Florida.

Jay Franze:

How far is Plant City? How far is Plant City from you?

SPEAKER_03:

Not that far.

Jay Franze:

There you go.

SPEAKER_03:

Maybe 40 minutes, maybe.

Jay Franze:

Want to meet up with Scotty? Nice.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Sounds good.

Jay Franze:

February 26th.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh. No. Well, you're gonna figure out oh, yeah, you're gonna find out why I can't. It's a big deal.

unknown:

Oh hell.

SPEAKER_03:

You wanna talk about what's going on?

Jay Franze:

No.

unknown:

No at all.

Jay Franze:

Oh, they're coming back to Ohio again?

SPEAKER_03:

You're supposed to say yes.

Jay Franze:

Oh, am I? Alright. Yeah. Go ahead. Tell me what's going on.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, on February 26th, I will be at the ViceStar Veterans Memorial Arena listening to the one, the only, the Nashville kid, Nate Margotzi, because Mr. Mason gifted me tickets for my birthday.

Jay Franze:

There you go. Yeah. Did it come with Christmas wrapping?

SPEAKER_03:

It did not come with Christmas wrapping. Actually, I'll throw him under the bus. I'm so sorry, Sean. He actually got up, put it in a Walmart bag, and he tied the handles. He was in the process of getting sick. So I gotta give him a big pass.

SPEAKER_02:

And he was like, here you go.

Jay Franze:

That's all right. I I had a present for the wife from the baby. Yeah. And it was the most horrendous rapping job ever. I mean, I was like, okay, whatever, here you go. Wife didn't mind.

SPEAKER_03:

No. Nope. It's not about the gift wrap. It's about what's inside.

Jay Franze:

Nate Bragazzi.

SPEAKER_03:

Nate. Bragazzi.

Jay Franze:

It's gonna be a good show.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I cannot freaking wait. I feel like just seeing him stand, just anticipating his next word is funny to me. Like I don't know what he's gonna say, but I know it's gonna be like side-splitting funny. So I'm I'm super excited about it. On the 24th, my birthday, got the Nate tickets, and then for Christmas, little Hannah got Dylan Scott tickets, and I'm really excited about that one because it is a rodeo beforehand, and then they'll shut down the rodeo portion and it will turn into the Dylan Scott concert. So that sounds really fun.

Jay Franze:

I was torn. I was torn, Nate or Dylan. I was like, ooh, I don't know which I'd rather see. And I was thinking, I'd probably rather see Nate.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I'm with you.

Jay Franze:

If I had to pick. As soon as you threw in rodeo, now I was like, hmm.

SPEAKER_03:

I know. I know. I know. It should be a pretty good time. So I'm very excited about that. Hannah says, Is it close to us? And I said, not really. And she goes, are we getting a hotel room? And I said, Well, it's 40 minutes, Hannah. I'm like, we're not getting a hotel room for 40 minutes. And she was like, I don't know if she made a face or whatever. I said, you know, I just wish you getting tickets would just be enough. Like, it's not enough just to go to the concert. We need to have a hotel and a whole experience.

Jay Franze:

Yes, yes, you do. Mommy daughter date.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay. And then the last thing I was gonna tell you guys about is, you know, I feel like I've just been beating this Stephen Quinn thing like a dead horse, but it just keeps coming up every time I turn around. So I'm scrolling through social media today, and I'm like, you know, I was waiting for a file to upload, so while I'm doing that, I'm just scrolling social media.

Jay Franze:

While you're supposed to be working.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. And then I see a picture that Steven has posted and he's like hugging the American flag. And I was like, what? And it's like, I love this nation. I can't believe I'm so honored to be performing the national anthem at the Jaguars game this Sunday. I was like, are you kidding me? This is incredible news. So I commented, I tried to share it to my stories. Uh about six hours later, my phone shows it's still 45% uploaded to Facebook. I'm not sure what's going on. I turned my phone off, I turn it back on, and it's still staying status. So it may show up in my stories, it may not. It may post, you know, in the next 24 hours. We'll see. No clue what's going on there. Um, but I was like, no, no, no, I gotta call him, I gotta call him. So I called him and I was like, hey, just want to tell you, congratulations. That's really cool. So, anyways, it was a nice little warm, fuzzy moment today to see him making big strides.

SPEAKER_04:

Aww.

SPEAKER_03:

I know, I felt like a proud little mom. I know. Speaking of proud mom, proud dad, uh, I feel like you had some fun this weekend and you were proud of Luciana for the line dancing.

Jay Franze:

Line dancing. I took Bella and Lucy to line dancing tonight. Right before the show.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, Snap.

Jay Franze:

Yes. We rushed back here to make sure we made it back on time.

SPEAKER_03:

Jay.

Jay Franze:

Every Tuesday at Laurie's Roadhouse, if for those in Cincinnati who want to meet up with me, Laurie's Roadhouse. We went there and they give lessons, line dancing lessons from seven to eight for beginners, and then from eight to nine for the experts.

SPEAKER_03:

We must be on the same wavelength because I've been trying to go to this place just down the street for line dancing for beginners Wednesday nights. We both had line dancing on the brain.

Jay Franze:

Well, the kids have this week off from school still.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

Jay Franze:

And from their traditional dance classes. So we had the opportunity and we took it to go take them there. Now again, this is my 15-year-old and my 11-year-old. I'm taking to a bar. So it's it's always a little odd. But Lucy, they have a mechanical bull now.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes.

Jay Franze:

And Lucy was like because I took Lucy to see Chris Linton on Saturday night. The artist I told you for last week that I would like to go check out. So I went to check him out. He was very good, by the way. But Lucy saw the bull. Anybody gonna ride it? I'm like, I'm sure they will. Give it a little, give it a little bit. Somebody will get up there. Well, they did. They started forming a line. She's like, they're all signing something. I'm like, yeah, it's called a waiver.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

And she's like, what's a waiver for? I said, because odds have it somebody's gonna get hurt.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

Jay Franze:

And she goes, Oh, I'm not signing a waiver. I said, Well, you're not riding the bull. She goes, Why not? Is it because my socks are dirty? I said, No, it's because if you get hurt, your mother will kill me. An 11-year-old at a bar riding a bull explained that to the school. Yeah. No, you're not riding a bull. Anyways, Chris's show, Chris Linton, was a very good show. He played some some really good music, and they were line dancing there as well, and Lucy got involved in that. It took her a little while. Like tonight she just ran up there and got right in the middle of 250 people.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh wow.

Jay Franze:

But the other night there was only like ten people doing line dancing when everybody else was watching the show. So she did get up there eventually with them and was line dancing. Picks it up very fast, so I'm very impressed. Anyways, we should probably crash this thing at some point. Should we crash it?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh let's land it tonight. Let's land it. I'm not in the mood for a dramatic ending.

Jay Franze:

All right. Very good. Well, we have done it. We have reached top of the hour. We've actually passed top of the hour. Top of the hour number dose.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Yeah. Par for the course.

Jay Franze:

Which does mean we have reached the end of the show. If you've enjoyed tonight's show, well, please tell a friend. If you have not, Miss Tiffany.

SPEAKER_00:

Tell two.

Jay Franze:

Tell two. As always, you can reach out to both of us. We will be happy to keep this or any other conversation going for that matter. You can do all of this over at jfranzie.com. You can even find our socials. You can find it all. jfranzi.com. Miss Tiffany, do you have any final words for us tonight?

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, it's always a good day when we get to hang out with anybody from the crew. Well, I guess all the crew. Thank you for spending time with us. And we will see you next week again on Wednesday now. We're back to Wednesdays.

Jay Franze:

Thanks for listening to the Jay Franzi Show. Make sure you visit us at JFranzi.com. Follow, connect, and say hello.

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