Jay Franze: 0:45

And we are coming at you live. I am Jay Franzi, and uh with me tonight the Timmy to my George, my beautiful co-host, Mr. Tiffany Mason.

SPEAKER_03: 0:55

Hello.

Jay Franze: 0:57

If you are new to the show, this wonderful show, this is your source for the latest news, reviews, and interviews. And if you would like to join in, comment, or fire off any questions, please head over to jfranzie and calm. All right, my friend, tradition has it. Before we get started, I must tell you about the question of the day.

SPEAKER_03: 1:16

Please.

Jay Franze: 1:17

The question of the day comes to us from Kristen. And if you would like to submit a question of the day, please feel free to send that to feedback at jfranzie.com. Kristen asks, What is the best music documentary of all time? What is the best music documentary of all time? She includes the word best, so that makes it a competition.

SPEAKER_03: 1:40

Pen and paper.

Jay Franze: 1:41

I don't really know how this can be a competition, but we'll go with it. We'll just maybe pick our tops, top fives, tens, twenties, a hundred. I don't know. Let's not get it. Fair enough. Don't tell me your answer now. Wait until a little later. And if you would like to join our shenanigans and put your answers in the comment section, please go ahead and do that, and we will read your comments off as well. Shall we get started?

SPEAKER_03: 2:06

Please.

Jay Franze: 2:07

Alright, let's talk about artists who like to fight their record labels. I cannot imagine that this is a good business move. However, it's in the news, so I'd like to discuss it. Fifteen country artists who fought their own record labels.

SPEAKER_02: 2:24

Let's see who it is.

Jay Franze: 2:26

Okay. I was just wondering if you're worth me, my friend. Something here. All right. Yes, I need your validation, is what I need.

SPEAKER_03: 2:37

A validator.

Jay Franze: 2:38

You really are a second wife, you know that? All right. The first on our list. I don't think this goes in any particular order, so just the first one on our list. Who is half of the best country duo of all time?

SPEAKER_03: 2:55

I want to say big and rich. Really? Damn it. Okay.

Jay Franze: 3:00

It's too early to be fired, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03: 3:02

Okay. Button's right there. Okay, start it over again.

Jay Franze: 3:05

Kenny and Dolly. Kenny and Dolly. So Kenny Rogers. I was going to say the first one on our list. It's too late now. Kenny Rogers. He sued Capitol. Oh my God. This was in 2012, he sued Capitol for unpaid royalties in a total of$400,000. Doesn't seem like that much these days for an artist to be suing a record label over. But these were unpaid royalties, and he claimed that the label underreported his digital earnings.

SPEAKER_03: 3:34

I mean,$400,000 is anything to sneeze at.

Jay Franze: 3:38

I mean, maybe for Kenny, but also for a major artist that makes millions. Yeah, I would think, you know, do you ruin the reputation with the record label over$400,000? Apparently you do.

SPEAKER_03: 3:51

I think I would.

Jay Franze: 3:54

All right. Fair enough. The next on the list is Travis Tritt, one of my favorites. Travis, he sued Category 5 records. That was his record label? Or at least it was up until 2007.

SPEAKER_03: 4:07

Wow.

Jay Franze: 4:08

In 2007, which is when the label shut down.

SPEAKER_03: 4:12

So the label shut down and then he sued them?

Jay Franze: 4:14

Well, what happened is they released his record and then closed it. They don't promote his record, they don't do anything to his record. So therefore, his career pretty much came to a halt at that point.

SPEAKER_04: 4:24

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 4:26

He eventually sued them and regained the rights to his master.

SPEAKER_02: 4:30

Cool.

Jay Franze: 4:30

I don't know if it if it helped the damage or not. Probably not. Because his his career slowed down in the 2000s. So it could have been the momentum of the record. We don't know.

SPEAKER_04: 4:41

Mm-hmm. Oh.

Jay Franze: 4:42

Alright. Brad Paisley. He sued Sony Records. Wow. I used to go to parties at Sony Records every week. There were some really, really cool parties. That's where I first met Travis Tripp.

SPEAKER_03: 4:53

Oh, wow. Yahtzee, that takes a lot of guts in order to sue your record label. Dang.

Jay Franze: 5:00

Well, he sued his in 2010 for 10 million plus in unpaid royalties.

SPEAKER_03: 5:08

Whoa.

Jay Franze: 5:10

That's different than that 400,000.

SPEAKER_03: 5:12

It's a little different. There's a little span in there.

Jay Franze: 5:14

Yeah. So good for you, Brad. Later focused on his digital royalties. The outcome is unclear.

SPEAKER_03: 5:22

Whoa.

Jay Franze: 5:23

But Paisley eventually moved from Sony over to EMI.

SPEAKER_03: 5:27

Interesting.

Jay Franze: 5:28

All right. Leanne Rhymes. Leanne Rhymes was on Curb Records. It's the home of Lee Bryce.

unknown: 5:35

Oh.

Jay Franze: 5:36

Leanne Rhymes sued her father and her manager in 2000 for misappropriation of money and later sued her record company for release because she signed her contract as a minor and the judge dismissed it. But she did finally reconcile with her father.

SPEAKER_03: 5:53

Wow, praise Jesus.

Jay Franze: 5:55

There you go. Another artist on Curb Records, Mr. Tim McGraw. Oh. So the record label sued McGraw in 2011 for breach of contract.

SPEAKER_03: 6:09

Oh wow.

Jay Franze: 6:10

McGraw countersued, calling the contract unfair. McGraw won in 2013.

SPEAKER_03: 6:18

Good for him.

Jay Franze: 6:18

So this was a two-year battle. Freeing him to sign with Big Machine. Yikes. Katie Armager, the label sued her for breach of contract in 2016. She countersued with a sexual harassment claim and allegations against her label. The multi-lawsuit battle ended in 2019, but it doesn't say why. It was settled. Both sides settled. Steve Earl and the others versus Universal Music Group. It was a class action lawsuit over a 2008 fire that destroyed their 800 plus master tapes.

SPEAKER_03: 6:57

Holy crap.

Jay Franze: 6:59

That would not have been good. I can understand. So Steve Earl and others would be all of the other record uh artists that run that.

SPEAKER_03: 7:08

799.

Jay Franze: 7:10

Right. Holy cow. That's a big deal. I used to worry about that all the time. I worked at a studio in Boston that kept all of their recordings there. At this time was two-inch tape. These boxes, they cost a couple hundred dollars for the tape alone. Once you put the material on them, they're priceless.

SPEAKER_03: 7:27

Right.

Jay Franze: 7:28

And they were just stacked like on shelves like a library. No protection, no nothing. And they were wooden shelves and uh heavily wooden. I mean, it looked like a cabin, but everything was wood. So yeah, could have been a problem.

SPEAKER_04: 7:41

Wow.

Jay Franze: 7:42

Anyways, artists claim that UMG hid the fire and withheld insurance payouts. The case was dismissed in 2020.

SPEAKER_03: 7:52

Whoa. Because some other things were going on in 2020. And they were like, we don't have time for this.

Jay Franze: 7:57

We don't have time for this crap. It was a long fight.

SPEAKER_03: 8:00

It was a long fight.

Jay Franze: 8:01

2008 to 2020.

SPEAKER_02: 8:03

Yeah, 12 years.

Jay Franze: 8:05

Alright. You may may have heard of this artist, Garth. Garth Brooks. Name sounds very familiar.

SPEAKER_03: 8:12

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 8:13

Garth Brooks versus Liberty Records. Negotiated a groundbreaking deal in 1993, gave up advances in exchange for 50% of his royalties. This was unheard of at the time.

SPEAKER_03: 8:25

Whoa.

Jay Franze: 8:27

Moving on. Toby Keith versus Mercury Records. Mercury rejected an album that Keith submitted. Keith asked it to be released, or he was going to move. Keith moved over to DreamWorks. The public feud with Mercury lasted for years.

SPEAKER_03: 8:44

It's like a divorce and fighting over kids.

Jay Franze: 8:51

I was going to say money does things to people. Next is Tanya Tucker versus Capitol Records. Sued in 1998, claiming her album was neglected in favor of other artists. Rumored to be Garth Brooks. So they're saying when Garth Brooks came out, they shelved Tanya Tucker to promote Garth. That happens all the time. All the time. I don't really know if you can sue the record label for that. That's their preference of how they run the business.

SPEAKER_04: 9:22

Right.

Jay Franze: 9:23

It says it was settled quietly, and she left the label.

SPEAKER_03: 9:28

She was probably asked to leave the label, and then she also gave them a middle finger and left the label.

Jay Franze: 9:35

Yeah, I'm sure she she left. I'm sure that was part of the quietly.

SPEAKER_04: 9:39

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 9:40

We quietly have a conversation that you're going to be leaving. We will let you leave and sign with another label or something else you want to do. But we are not going to put your record up. That's unfortunate. All right, here's another one.

SPEAKER_03: 9:54

Well, maybe they already had their woman artist.

Jay Franze: 9:58

They had another woman ready to go. That's the good thing about being a woman, is if one woman doesn't work out, there's a line of them waiting. Oh, another curb record artist, Jody Messina versus Curb Records. Claim that Curb spaced her albums too far apart, hurting the momentum. She left the label behind in 2012, but said the damage was already done. I've never never really heard of her artist complaining about the spacing. I mean, that's right. She had a lot of momentum at the time. A lot of the Phil Vassar songs. Phil Vassar was hot at the time and wrote all of her songs. I don't know. That's a good one. That one I actually find interesting. I would like to know what the normal spacing of the releases would be versus what she was doing.

SPEAKER_03: 10:51

Yeah, there's a little meat to dig into on there.

unknown: 10:54

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 10:54

Jody, give us a call. jfrancy.com. Hop on now if you want. We know you're listening.

SPEAKER_03: 10:59

We'll give you a platform to share your story.

Jay Franze: 11:01

We'll talk about it. We know you're back on the road. Got plenty of things to talk about. All right. Next, the chicks, or as they say here, the Dixie chicks versus Sony Nashville. Again, Sony Records, that was the big record label in Nashville when I was there. They threw the best parties and weekly parties in their office. It was amazing. I mean, the vice president at the time was a guy named Jack, and he had this big neon sign in his office. It said Jack's place. You could see it from the road. Oh, cool. And Mondays at five o'clock, when you know business was over, that light came on, and everybody flooded his office and sat there and with a huge bar. That's the bar where Billy Ray Cyrus used to give me drinks. So I mean it was a cool thing. I met Billy Ray Cyrus, Travis Trit, and Montgomery Gentry. All of them. That's where I got to do a I designed a t-shirt for the Montgomery Gentry tour.

SPEAKER_03: 11:57

Oh, cool.

Jay Franze: 11:58

It's pretty interesting. I don't know whatever happened of it, and I don't have a copy of it, so there you go.

SPEAKER_03: 12:03

Aww. How are you not gonna save a copy for yourself?

Jay Franze: 12:07

I don't know. I didn't make them, I just designed it. Alright, Dixie Chicks. Accuse Sony of under-reporting sales to avoid paying royalties. Common theme. Sony sued them for breach of contract. This was settled in 2002 with a$20 million bonus. So it sounds like they won.

SPEAKER_03: 12:31

Mm-hmm. Wow. That's quite a bonus. I guess they did have to split it three ways.

Jay Franze: 12:39

So to be fair, that was probably split 300 ways with all the people that are truly involved. Yeah. Wow. Next one's kind of um a big deal.

SPEAKER_02: 12:51

Okay.

Jay Franze: 12:52

So brace yourself. Put your seatbelt on. Taylor Swift versus Big Machine Records.

SPEAKER_02: 12:58

I wondered when this was gonna come up. This one, and there's one other one I'm You're waiting on. Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze: 13:06

Left Big Machine, then the label sold her masters to Scooter Braun. Swift publicly objected and began re-recording her earlier hits calling them Taylor's version.

SPEAKER_03: 13:19

Love it. Love it.

Jay Franze: 13:22

And then she eventually got them back.

SPEAKER_03: 13:24

Great.

Jay Franze: 13:25

She's got the original masters back now.

SPEAKER_03: 13:27

Well, yeah, because they lost all their value. Well I mean not to her, but not to her. Right. Right.

Jay Franze: 13:33

But if she's a few years, she's telling her fans now they no longer have to go to the Taylor versions. They can go to any version they want now.

SPEAKER_03: 13:38

Well now we all belong to her. Now we all have a hill to die on, though, and we want to stay with Taylor's version.

Jay Franze: 13:44

Yeah. Okay. Either way, she's making money. That's right. I don't think she's hurt by the decision. But it was unfair because she offered to buy the tapes from the record label and they went ahead and sold them to Scooter. Yeah. And then she tried to buy them from him, and it didn't work out.

SPEAKER_02: 14:01

People.

Jay Franze: 14:02

I am glad it finally worked out for her. Alright, next, Mark Chestnut vs. Decca Records.

SPEAKER_03: 14:08

Decca Records.

Jay Franze: 14:10

Decca. Decca. Decca Records. Decca. It's an earlier label. But Mark Chestnut vs. Decca Records. His hit, I Don't Want to Miss a Thing, didn't match the sales expectations.

SPEAKER_03: 14:24

Oops.

Jay Franze: 14:25

He refused to record another pop cover and asked that he be released from his record contract.

SPEAKER_03: 14:32

Oh wow. He tried it, it didn't work out, and he was over it.

Jay Franze: 14:37

He says if we're not going to release another country record, then I'm out.

SPEAKER_03: 14:40

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 14:41

Good for him.

SPEAKER_03: 14:42

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 14:43

And that's probably why we didn't hear much from him after after that.

SPEAKER_03: 14:47

It's all making a lot of sense. When we stopped hearing from people, their record label may have had something to do with it.

Jay Franze: 14:53

It's always a dispute like that.

SPEAKER_03: 14:54

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 14:55

Alright. Last on our list, Morgan Wallen.

SPEAKER_02: 14:59

Oh.

Jay Franze: 15:01

Morgan Wallen versus Panacea Records. Old recordings from a small early career deal were re-released in 2024. Wallen called the move gross and greedy. So basically what he's saying is he did some demos or some early recordings with his record label. It didn't go anywhere. He finally got a record deal, went in and recorded some, you know, real natural quality, polished music. And once that happened, this company then went ahead and re-released the earlier stuff. Basically, to do a money grab and catch people off guard that were looking for Morgan Wallin. Yeah. That happens a lot. All the production companies I worked for, they would always hold on to those recordings, and when that artist, if that artist ever hit big, then they would go ahead and re-release that material.

SPEAKER_03: 15:50

Now, how does it resurface or whatever?

Jay Franze: 15:54

Say I had um a small record label, you know, small independently owned record label, and I sign you as an artist.

SPEAKER_02: 16:01

Oh, I was hoping you were gonna use me as the example.

Jay Franze: 16:03

You would be the first place I would go, or the first one I would want to go to. So I sign you, we go into the studio, maybe we do a demo of three songs or something, uh-huh, and we try to get interest from a major label and see if we can get somebody to buy out your contract with me. And if that doesn't work, then maybe we go ahead and rec finish recording the album and then you go on tour, and this as an independent label, I would promote that tour or whatever, try to help you. Yep. Well, what happened in this particular case is he went ahead and recorded however many songs it was. Yep. He then took the next step to the major label. When he did, that earlier label went ahead and released his music.

SPEAKER_03: 16:48

Was it previously released?

Jay Franze: 16:50

I don't know. It says re-released.

SPEAKER_03: 16:52

Yeah. So how do you re-release it? Do you just slap a new date on it?

Jay Franze: 16:58

Say in 2018, they recorded this record, they tried to get some interest and couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_04: 17:03

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 17:04

And then he gets the record deal and they say, Oh, let's go ahead and try and get some interest again. And then they submit it to you know, radio stations and so forth.

SPEAKER_03: 17:12

Got it. Got it.

Jay Franze: 17:13

Happens all the time.

SPEAKER_03: 17:15

I believe that.

Jay Franze: 17:17

Well, that was kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_03: 17:18

That was very interesting, actually.

Jay Franze: 17:20

I would like to know a little bit more about some of those. Maybe one day we'll do a case study. We'll take it just a step further.

SPEAKER_03: 17:27

Ooh.

Jay Franze: 17:28

In the meantime, let's go ahead and move on to the news.

SPEAKER_03: 17:31

Let's go ahead and move on to the news. I want to tell you about Margot Price. She is eyeing up the glammy glory and jokes about being.

Jay Franze: 17:40

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, she's doing what?

SPEAKER_03: 17:45

She's eyeing up Grammy Glory. What did I say? Okay.

Jay Franze: 17:49

Glammy.

SPEAKER_03: 17:50

Glammy. Glammy glory.

Jay Franze: 17:53

Just wondering if that's what you truly meant. Grammy Glory. She's all glammed out.

SPEAKER_03: 17:59

And she's joking about beating the Nelsons, Willie and Lucas, of course. So she is nominated for two 2026 Grammys, including Best Traditional Country Album, Hard Headed Woman. And Marg's feeling fully present and ready to shine this award season.

Jay Franze: 18:17

I like her because she's got a witty sense of humor to her.

SPEAKER_03: 18:20

Well, she must if she's joking about beating the Nelsons. That's kind of fun.

Jay Franze: 18:24

Yeah, no, it's pretty it's definitely cool. I like that a lot.

SPEAKER_03: 18:27

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 18:28

She's an outspoken woman all around, but I like her sense of humor.

SPEAKER_03: 18:33

Well, another person that we see a lot of is Mr. Jelly Roll, and he is joining Netflix's Star Search as a judge. I actually just heard this on the radio tonight, and I was like, wait, what? So the runway hitmaker is stepping into TV last week or the week before. We reported that he was on a cooking show. Now he's gonna be on Netflix Star Search, stepping into TV, judging the reboot of the iconic talent show Star Search, bringing country credibility to prime streaming real estate. Don't we already have a lot of country credibility?

Jay Franze: 19:09

Do we have any at Star Search?

SPEAKER_03: 19:12

Well, we don't because it's just it's coming back. Oldie Buddy Goody resurfacing.

Jay Franze: 19:16

Star Search was never really a country show. No, no. We we had Nashville Star. That was country.

SPEAKER_03: 19:22

That was country. One of my favorite songs came from that show by Melissa Lawson. What if it all goes right?

Jay Franze: 19:31

Who's the artist that we were talking about?

unknown: 19:34

Oh.

Jay Franze: 19:35

I don't know. Shouldn't have brought it up. I don't remember his name.

SPEAKER_03: 19:38

Good job.

Jay Franze: 19:39

He was a big artist. Big artist. I'll think about it. I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_03: 19:43

Okay.

Jay Franze: 19:44

But he won Nashville Star. That's why it's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03: 19:47

Oh, very cool.

Jay Franze: 19:48

Oh, and it's not cool now.

SPEAKER_03: 19:50

Why?

Jay Franze: 19:51

Winner of Star.

SPEAKER_03: 19:56

So because years have gone by now, it's not cool?

Jay Franze: 19:58

No, it's Chris Young. It's because I was trying to tell you his name and you were like, Oh, no big deal now. And I'm like, Well, okay.

SPEAKER_04: 20:06

Yeah. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 20:07

You were dissing my story because I couldn't remember who it was, but it was Chris Young, thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 20:11

Yeah. Okay.

Jay Franze: 20:12

Well, still trying to get him on the show.

SPEAKER_03: 20:14

Now we know.

Jay Franze: 20:15

Let's move on to your next story.

SPEAKER_03: 20:16

Okay, well, something I do know is Zach Bryan secretly tied the knot, and it was beautifully personal. So the country superstar married Samantha Leonard in San Sebastian, Spain, adding a heartfelt tribute to his late mother during the ceremony on December 31st. I would not want to get married on any holiday.

Jay Franze: 20:41

No, I don't think I would either. Whoa, whoa, I shared that?

SPEAKER_03: 20:54

Yeah. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 20:55

Did I?

SPEAKER_03: 20:55

Yeah, because we talked about me having a Christmas birthday, and you said, You have a Christmas birthday, and I said, Is it? And you said, Yeah, and I said, Close enough. So I was gonna say, with both of us having Christmas birthdays, we wouldn't want to share our wedding day too with a holiday.

Jay Franze: 21:15

Okay, fine. I don't like sharing my wedding day with my wife.

SPEAKER_03: 21:20

I think that is one of the things that is unavoidable.

SPEAKER_04: 21:25

All right, fine.

SPEAKER_03: 21:27

Well, we talked about Garth Brooks, and he is teasing about possibly coming back on tour. So the legend on all of his social media, he's been saying, you know, like new year, new songs, maybe a new major tour, and he's saying, quote, it's all on the table. So stay tuned. Oh my gosh, can you imagine how expensive those tickets are gonna be?

Jay Franze: 21:50

Yeah, they'll they'll be through the roof for sure. Yeah. I mean, he quit his or put his career on pause, we'll say, at the height of his career to focus on his family and all that stuff. And I appreciate that. I give him all the credit in the world for doing it. But he still writes and produces songs the entire time. I don't know, and he's still he's with Trisha now, right?

SPEAKER_03: 22:10

Yeah. Is that when he that was the family he quit? Was that his height?

Jay Franze: 22:14

Which one which one is he trying to take care of? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04: 22:19

Oh your mother says I should have asked her about Chris.

Jay Franze: 22:25

Yeah, that's true. You were part of that show. I asked you to come on, you didn't. Yeah. But you know.

SPEAKER_04: 22:30

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 22:30

But that's all right, Miss Kathy. I appreciate you being here. And I appreciate your voicemail, by the way. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03: 22:36

Yeah, what the hell? Sending in voicemails, mom?

Jay Franze: 22:39

You move on, Tiffany.

SPEAKER_03: 22:41

What's next? Well, what is next is we are talking about Jason Aldeen, and I'm excited he's teasing about new songs and a new duet with Britney, his wife. So fans are buzzing after Aldeen shared early details on multiple new tracks dropping this month, uh, January, including a duet with his wife. I love Kane Brown's duet with his wife, so I can't wait to hear the duet with Jason and Britney.

Jay Franze: 23:09

Now, was Britney a singer before all this stuff, or is it just a novelty thing they're doing?

SPEAKER_03: 23:15

I do not know. Last I knew she was selling the news like an infomercial on social media.

unknown: 23:24

Okay.

Jay Franze: 23:25

Well, I didn't know if she was trying to get a deal or something at the same time he was, or if she just sings at home. And he thought, hey, let's go do this together. Either way, it should be interesting. I would like to hear it.

SPEAKER_03: 23:36

Yeah, me too. I think it'll be good. Okay, CRS announces expanded new faces of country music in 2026 lineup. So six rising stars, including Ella Langley, Kelsey Hart, and more, will shine at the Country Radio Seminar Showcase in March in Nashville. Now, crew members may be asking themselves, what is CRS?

Jay Franze: 24:02

So what is CRS?

SPEAKER_03: 24:05

It is the country music seminar, like I said. It is where country music professionals is it though? Country radio seminar? Did I say something wrong?

Jay Franze: 24:13

There you go. You say country music.

SPEAKER_03: 24:15

Oh, country radio, sorry, seminar. Okay. Uh so yes.

Jay Franze: 24:19

It's no fun when you catch yourself. I wanted to catch it.

SPEAKER_03: 24:23

Catch me anytime, Jay. Country music professionals.

Jay Franze: 24:27

Fall into my arms.

SPEAKER_03: 24:29

You had to lift some weights to catch the amount of weight that'd be falling in your arms. Okay. Country music professionals, radio, labels, and artists network, learn, and advance the industry through educational panels, new music showcases, and business strategy sessions focusing on digital trends, career growth, and best practices, all while featuring big performances like the famous New Faces show for emerging artists. How freaking cool.

Jay Franze: 25:02

How freaking cool.

SPEAKER_03: 25:03

How freaking cool. Agreed. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 25:11

Well, too many things going on this year. Stay tuned. It's a good problem to have.

SPEAKER_03: 25:16

It is a good problem to have.

Jay Franze: 25:17

You gotta pick and choose the battles.

SPEAKER_03: 25:20

Okay, people. We told you Maddie and Tay are splitting up. Splitsville. That's right, splitzville. Maddie, she's trying to, she's going towards the light.

SPEAKER_04: 25:30

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03: 25:34

She's staying in the spotlight. Tay is wanting to focus on her young family, but they are going. They still need money. They still need money. They're going to um honor their last tour dates in 2026. There are 10 remaining shows. It's a testament to their loyal fan base and their work ethic.

Jay Franze: 25:54

I thought they were still gonna tour. You know, they I mean they're finishing their already scheduled dates, but I thought they were gonna, you know, go ahead and schedule another tour.

SPEAKER_03: 26:03

No.

Jay Franze: 26:04

No.

SPEAKER_03: 26:04

No. It's alright. No, Tay's gotta focus on the fam. Might see Maddie out on tour. Okay, well, I guess Tyler Hubbard's out there on social media running his mouth. Why the real reason Florida Georgia line split. Um they said And you know what?

Jay Franze: 26:22

They were just talking about a reunion.

SPEAKER_03: 26:24

Oh, were they?

Jay Franze: 26:25

So this doesn't sound like a reunion's possible.

SPEAKER_03: 26:28

Well, maybe he was, you know, doing it lighthearted or something. I mean, really, it just came down to um I can't remember the other half of Florida Georgia Line. Help a girlfriend out.

Jay Franze: 26:40

Brian Kelly.

SPEAKER_03: 26:42

Yes. So one of them wanted to go out on their own and still have Florida Georgia line, and the other one said, no, that's stupid, because then they're competing against each other. And so supposedly that's the whole non-dramatic reason why they split.

SPEAKER_04: 27:01

Alright.

Jay Franze: 27:03

I mean, you know, sometimes the news isn't sexy, and this one it's not very sexy, but it kills me when bands get together, they become successful, and then they all want to do a solo project because they think, well, I could be just as successful without the band or the person. Yeah. I mean, even rock bands like the band Kiss in the day, each member, including the drummer, all released their own record. And I think the most successful song released out of all their individual records was from the drummer.

SPEAKER_02: 27:36

That's awesome.

Jay Franze: 27:37

So I don't know. There you go. But the solo projects almost never, and I know there's exceptions, but they almost never go as well as the band did.

SPEAKER_03: 27:47

Do you want to talk to Maddie about that?

Jay Franze: 27:50

No, let them find out on their own.

SPEAKER_03: 27:55

Well, we have high hopes for Maddie going forward.

Jay Franze: 27:57

Yes, no, we appreciate that. And Tyler is obviously doing well.

SPEAKER_03: 28:02

So yeah, he is doing good. Okay. Well, Keith Urban, he is spreading New Year's cheer with special hospital visits in Nashville. So the chart-topping artist made a surprise appearance at the children's hospital in Vanderbilt in Nashville. And he was performing for patients, answering questions, and took pictures, donated a guitar to support the hospital's music therapy program. So that's pretty cool.

Jay Franze: 28:31

That is very cool. Uh-oh. We get Mr. Botelato chime in. I think he's saying that I was wrong. Let's find out.

SPEAKER_04: 28:40

Nope.

Jay Franze: 28:41

Nope. Most successful from Kiss solo was Ace's Back in the New York Groove. Okay. Thank you, Mark. I've heard of it, but I thought Beth. I thought Beth was the most successful song. Mark, tell me about Beth. What did that come in second? I don't know. Help her brother out.

SPEAKER_03: 29:02

While are we wah wah wah wah wah. While we are waiting to hear from Mark.

Jay Franze: 29:09

We don't have to wait. He already gave it a thumbs up.

SPEAKER_03: 29:11

Oh, look at that.

Jay Franze: 29:11

So apparently I was number two. I'm always number two to Mark's number one.

SPEAKER_03: 29:15

Number two. Okay. Well, my number one, I think, right now is Ella Langley. I mean, I know it was Laney Wilson, but girlfriend's got me. Ella Langley. Surprise country twist on the side.

Jay Franze: 29:27

She's coming on strong.

SPEAKER_03: 29:28

She is. She is.

Jay Franze: 29:30

Like personality-wise, like I'm hearing more about her, more and more about her.

SPEAKER_03: 29:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh her social media is pretty good, just like Laney Wilson's. And, you know, like she'll just barely riff a song, and it sounds exactly like it's off the radio. And that is impressive to me because, you know, auto-tune and whatever else. And I love anybody who can just sing effortlessly. Like she just sings and just like falls out of her face. Like she is, it just seems so effortless. And I'm just so jealous of that. Anyways. So she was on TikTok and she did a copy of Never Gonna Give You Up. And if you'll please hold one moment. I told Jay before the show I was gonna grab a prop.

Jay Franze: 30:13

When you say props, it always scares me.

SPEAKER_03: 30:15

Don't be scared. This is one of my favorite shirts. It's Rick Astley. Never gonna give you up.

Jay Franze: 30:23

Okay, pronounce the T woman.

SPEAKER_03: 30:26

Rick Astley. Thank you.

Jay Franze: 30:30

Go ahead. Hold the shirt up. I want to finish reading.

SPEAKER_03: 30:32

Okay. Well, it's just the lyrics. I don't know if you can see it or not, but anyways. So I was invited to go skating a couple years ago with my girlfriend, and I thought this shirt just happened to pop up on. I don't know, I buy tons of crap off of Facebook. Something it popped up on Facebook, and I was like, I gotta have it. I gotta have it, especially if we're going skating, because that was like such a popular song. Anyway, her rendition of it is very country. It's like kind of acoustic. She's playing along. I don't know. Sounded great. Because, I mean, basically because it was Ella Langley.

Jay Franze: 31:06

Question of the day brought to us by Kristen. Kristen says, What is the best music documentary? What is the best music documentary?

SPEAKER_03: 31:15

What is it? What is it?

Jay Franze: 31:16

Nope, I'm not telling you now, but I'm gonna give you the option to give your choice now, or would you like to wait till later?

SPEAKER_03: 31:23

Um, I'll give you mine now because it's very uneventful. I've only watched a few. I haven't watched very many, and I personally liked the Aussie one. I watched Aussie. I've probably watched maybe five total my whole life. And I don't know. Thought it was interesting. I didn't realize all the crap that happened to his back. So, you know, that was very interesting for me to realize like it all went downhill after he had that first back correction surgery. So yeah.

Jay Franze: 31:54

It sounds painful. Fair enough. We're gonna move on to other people's choices. Alright, we're gonna start off with Michael D. Mike D, as we call him. He says, I'm a big fan of the Eagles documentary. Thank you for joining us yet again, Mike. I do appreciate it. And I believe that would be one check out. I have not seen that documentary, but I put it on my list, and you should put it on this list.

SPEAKER_03: 32:19

Well, I feel like next time is we need to say what streaming service. I mean, I guess we can all look it up. We all have phones and computers.

Jay Franze: 32:28

Way too much. I too much homework. Ginger. Ginger says, Well, I have three. I think Ginger's your cousin.

SPEAKER_03: 32:37

I was gonna say, she must be Teen Tiffany.

Jay Franze: 32:41

Ginger says, The Wrecking Crew, History of the Eagles, and the Bee Gees. You were not the biggest fan of the Bee Gees, especially when it came to Barbara Streisand. You said no. No. Giuseppe. Giuseppe says, Alright, Miss Tiffany. And Devo, and it's on Netflix.

SPEAKER_03: 33:04

Oh, okay. I like it. Thank you.

Jay Franze: 33:07

Thank you, Giuseppe, for playing along with our shenanigans. June says, the day the music died. Oh. Alright. Here we go. James. The James.

SPEAKER_03: 33:20

Question of the day, James.

Jay Franze: 33:22

Question of the day, James says it might get loud.

SPEAKER_03: 33:27

Does it say which group?

Jay Franze: 33:28

Multiple groups. Jimmy Page, the Eagles, Jack White.

SPEAKER_03: 33:32

Oh.

Jay Franze: 33:32

But it's it talks about that time in music.

SPEAKER_03: 33:36

Ooh, I'm gonna check it out.

Jay Franze: 33:38

It would be a good one to check out. I watch a lot of documentaries. A lot of them, so I'm very, very thankful for this question, Kristen. Alright. Moving on to Holly.

SPEAKER_03: 33:51

Ooh, hey Holly.

Jay Franze: 33:52

Holly's a big fan of yours.

SPEAKER_03: 33:55

I don't understand it, but have you met me, Jay?

Jay Franze: 34:00

Yes. That's why I don't understand it.

SPEAKER_03: 34:02

That's not a love.

Jay Franze: 34:04

Holly says Woodstock.

SPEAKER_03: 34:06

Okay. That'd probably be a good one.

Jay Franze: 34:09

See the year I was born.

SPEAKER_03: 34:11

42.

Jay Franze: 34:15

42? I'm not that old. I mean, I'm old, but I'm not that old. Okay, so maybe I am. Joe says, once we were brothers.

SPEAKER_03: 34:27

Does it say what group?

Jay Franze: 34:28

Robbie Robertson and the band. Mark. Mark Bodalato.

SPEAKER_03: 34:34

Bottom.

Jay Franze: 34:35

Previous guest of the show, and the one who corrects me about facts during the news. Thank you, Mark. He says, Sound City. That was a really good one. I did see it. It's about a recording studio in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_03: 34:51

Oh, cool.

Jay Franze: 34:52

And all the bands that came in and out of that studio through the years and recorded their music. Alright, moving on. Carter says, Dig, searching for Sugar Man. It was about an artist called Rodriguez. Not really too famous here in the States, but he just kind of disappeared. Joanne, thank you for joining us, Joanne. Good to see you. She says, Laurel Canyon, a place in time. We talk about the music scene in Laurel Canyon.

SPEAKER_03: 35:23

I don't really want to ask, but I'm gonna. What is Laurel Canyon?

Jay Franze: 35:28

It's a city in Los Angeles or an area of Los Angeles. It was Hoppin' in the 60s and 70s.

SPEAKER_03: 35:36

You know what I wasn't really thinking about was documentary of locations. I was just thinking documentaries of people. I kind of like this idea of locations almost better because there's another one that I listened to. I think it was actually about celebrities, maybe Phoenix, River Phoenix. And um they kind of were talking about oh, what was the popular place in LA? If I said it, you would know it was a club.

Jay Franze: 36:06

Oh there's a whole bunch of them. The whiskey.

SPEAKER_03: 36:09

Not the whiskey. Anyway, so this is a good idea.

Jay Franze: 36:14

Viper room.

SPEAKER_03: 36:15

Yes. God, I love you, Mark. God, yes. Good job.

Jay Franze: 36:22

Yes. So Laurel Canyon. That's where Jackson Brown, Don Henley, Mackenzie Phipps, not Mackenzie Phipps, Michelle Phipps. Michelle Phillips, not Mackenzie Phipps. That's my um dyslexia right there. That's a perfect example. Mackenzie Phipps, Michelle Phillips.

SPEAKER_03: 36:42

Yeah. Easy mix-up.

Jay Franze: 36:45

Anthony says, spinal tap. I laugh because I didn't hear you laugh. Twice. I laughed on the inside.

SPEAKER_03: 36:55

Because you did what twice?

Jay Franze: 36:57

He said it twice.

SPEAKER_03: 36:58

Oh.

Jay Franze: 36:59

He put it here and he put it on the socials just to make sure that I would see it. He gives an or. Or a year and a half in the life of Metallica.

SPEAKER_03: 37:11

Ooh.

Jay Franze: 37:12

He said that one for you.

SPEAKER_03: 37:15

Yeah. Thank you. I thank you.

Jay Franze: 37:18

Maya Project Music. Take a guess.

SPEAKER_03: 37:23

Um.

Jay Franze: 37:26

Wrong. Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_03: 37:28

Oh, nope. That's not what I was going to say. Oh, rumors. There we go. Fleet went back. That's what I was going to say.

Jay Franze: 37:34

No, you would have been wrong. Anna Marie. Anna Marie says, Does We Are Spinal Tap count?

SPEAKER_03: 37:41

Ooh. Two votes for that one.

Jay Franze: 37:43

You know, they're asking because it's a mockumentary.

SPEAKER_03: 37:46

Oh.

Jay Franze: 37:48

It's iconic. I mean, it's a big deal. Anyways, you haven't seen it, so go watch it.

SPEAKER_03: 37:55

I I've got my I've got a lot of homework.

Jay Franze: 37:58

We we will discuss it in an upcoming episode. Alright, let's see. Corey. Corey says Suburbia. Penelope Spheres. Do we know the me neither? Nothing about it. I am me and nobody else. Says the original filming of Woodstock.

SPEAKER_03: 38:22

Oh. I wonder if that's the other Woodstock one that another person had mentioned.

Jay Franze: 38:28

Yeah, it's the same one.

SPEAKER_03: 38:29

Ah, got it. Okay. I am me and no one else.

Jay Franze: 38:32

That's the the person. That's their.

SPEAKER_03: 38:36

Oh my god.

Jay Franze: 38:38

I am me and no one else, or I am me and nobody else says the original filming of Woodstock.

SPEAKER_03: 38:44

Wow.

Jay Franze: 38:45

You are easily confused.

SPEAKER_03: 38:47

Yes. It's late, Jay.

Jay Franze: 38:50

It's not late.

SPEAKER_03: 38:51

It's late.

Jay Franze: 38:51

Another two hours to go.

SPEAKER_03: 38:53

Two hours to go. I got this.

Jay Franze: 38:55

Alright. Adrian says the Beatles.

SPEAKER_03: 38:58

Adrian.

Jay Franze: 39:00

Mark is chiming back in saying the go-go's. I would like to see that.

SPEAKER_03: 39:06

Oh, I'd like to see the Millie Vanilli one.

Jay Franze: 39:10

Why?

SPEAKER_03: 39:12

Because that was my my growing up.

Jay Franze: 39:16

I love the go-go's though. That was one of the first recordings I ever purchased on my own.

SPEAKER_03: 39:19

Oh my gosh.

Jay Franze: 39:21

I think it was a cassette tape.

SPEAKER_03: 39:24

Not an A-track.

Jay Franze: 39:26

Not an A-treck. Could have been. Could have been I'm that old. Thank you. I love you like a bad rash. Like a stub toe. Whichever version of these things you want, just tell me. Jess says, some kind of monster. That's a documentary with Metallica where they had a therapist, and that's where I lost all my respect. Mark, while you're out there, tell me what you thought of some kind of monster. Did it make you like Metallica more or less? I know you're a big fan. Made me like them less. Just something about them grown men going around fighting with each other and going through a therapist just weirded me out. He says exactly what you just said. Yeah. Just weird. It wasn't that they were being Vulnerable. I'm all all for that. I mean, this was just grown men arguing and fighting, and they just brought in a therapist as like a referee.

SPEAKER_03: 40:19

Okay, yeah.

Jay Franze: 40:20

It was very weird.

SPEAKER_03: 40:21

I am such a sucker for real reality TV, but I really don't like when everyone starts to argue. I want them to be interviewed and talk trash behind the other person's back.

Jay Franze: 40:32

Oh, behind the back.

SPEAKER_03: 40:33

But I don't want to actually watch them actually argue.

Jay Franze: 40:38

Alright. Not Mark B, but Mark E says, Under the volcano. It's about studio engineers. I've not heard of it, but for that reason alone, I would like to check it out. Lindsay from Florence, Kentucky. Right down the road from me. I drive through Florence Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03: 40:58

Why don't they meet you at Laurie's Roadhouse ever?

Jay Franze: 41:01

I don't know. Lindsay? Talk to me. Talk to me. She says, Miss Americana.

SPEAKER_03: 41:07

I don't know.

Jay Franze: 41:09

Sounds like a Taylor Swift thing, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03: 41:12

I don't know.

Jay Franze: 41:13

Dave says this is Spinal Tap. It's fake, but somehow the most accurate music documentary ever. Alright. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 41:25

Yes, Miss Miss Americana, Taylor Swift, 2020.

Jay Franze: 41:30

Thank you, Mark. Alright, so I'm gonna throw in mine. My favorite was Tom Dowd. Tom Dowd was a recording engineer, one of the earlier ones, but he was an absolutely amazing recording engineer. So if you have an interest in some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, Tom Dowd, not only an amazing engineer, but it was a great documentary.

SPEAKER_03: 41:58

So how do you spell Dowd?

Jay Franze: 42:00

D-O-W-D.

SPEAKER_03: 42:03

Okay. Got it. Did you want me to go through the whole list? Are we gonna narrow this down?

Jay Franze: 42:11

I don't know if it's if it's something that we need to do a fight.

SPEAKER_03: 42:16

But I did write them down from my own record so I can go view them.

Jay Franze: 42:20

But if we were gonna pick a winner, let's just jump right to the winner. We'll say this is spinal tap.

SPEAKER_03: 42:25

Fair.

Jay Franze: 42:27

So this is spinal tap is definitely the one worth checking out out of all of them. If you could only check out one, that would be the one to do.

SPEAKER_02: 42:36

Okay.

Jay Franze: 42:37

Mark says, even though it's a mockumentary, everyone in the industry swears, swears it's about them. Sorry, Mark. You know me. I don't know how to read.

SPEAKER_03: 42:51

Let's talk about the country music charts. Let's start with number 10. What do you think?

Jay Franze: 42:56

Oh, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_03: 42:57

Okay. Number 10, ooh, is Zach Top, Good Times and Tan Lines.

Jay Franze: 43:03

Nice. Good for you, Zach. I know. Out time you made it.

SPEAKER_03: 43:07

Oh, yeah.

Jay Franze: 43:08

That song seems like it's faded out a little bit, and yet now it's appearing on the charts.

SPEAKER_03: 43:12

I would agree. I'm surprised to see it, but okay. Better leave than ever. Well, in spot number nine, we have Hudson Westbrook with House Again. I heard that song today.

Jay Franze: 43:24

It's your favorite.

SPEAKER_03: 43:25

I don't know. It's okay. Now there's next one. Fan. Big fan. Numero 8. George Burge. It won't be long. It won't be long. It won't be long.

Jay Franze: 43:39

Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_03: 43:41

I don't know what the words are in between. It's fine. I need time to learn them still.

Jay Franze: 43:45

You saying that the words are the most important part.

SPEAKER_03: 43:48

I know, I just haven't learned them yet.

unknown: 43:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 43:50

The story is you fall in love and it won't be long. You're having a baby, it won't be long, and then they're gonna be gone. And then they talk about his advice from I think his grandfather, or maybe his dad, but his grandfather, saying, um It's a Cats in the Cradle song. Yes, yes, yes. Oh my oh Jay, yes. Oh my god, you just gave me even more appreciation for that song. That's exactly right.

Jay Franze: 44:22

Cats in the Cradle. Re-released by George Birch.

SPEAKER_03: 44:26

It won't be long.

Jay Franze: 44:32

High Mountain Breezes.

SPEAKER_03: 44:33

Oh, really? Okay, cool. I'll have to check that out. I like that song a lot. Okay, well the next one is going to be from spot six to spot seven. Slipped a spot.

Jay Franze: 44:47

Tell us, darling.

SPEAKER_03: 44:48

Chase Matthew with the song Darlin.

unknown: 44:51

Nice.

SPEAKER_03: 44:51

Like that song. Don't like that he says, Does he drive your Mercedes? What does that have to do with it? Like, I don't I don't understand. Anyways.

Jay Franze: 45:00

If she's a country chick, what's she doing driving a Mercedes?

SPEAKER_03: 45:02

Right? I mean, he drives a Chevy.

Jay Franze: 45:05

He drives a ridgeline.

SPEAKER_03: 45:08

Oh my god. Okay. Bleak Shelton in spot number six with Stay Country or Die Tryin'. We all know I love that one.

Jay Franze: 45:19

I I like that song. I just can't get over some of the cheesy lyrics.

SPEAKER_03: 45:24

Uh spot number five from spot number eight. So she's moving up the charts. Megan Moroni was six months later. And you know, I listened to it again, and I know that you got mad about the turns of tabled.

Jay Franze: 45:36

No, I don't I don't dislike it. I'm just saying it strikes me as odd. That's all. The lyrics I think are clever are when she says, When you couldn't care more, I couldn't care less.

SPEAKER_03: 45:49

Ooh. I like those lyrics too.

Jay Franze: 45:52

Specifically because most people get that saying wrong when they say, I could care less. No, you couldn't care less. So the fact that I don't know who wrote it, but whoever wrote the song, I thought that was a very clever line.

SPEAKER_03: 46:03

And she does a great job recording it. Okay, spot number four is Mr. Hardy with favorite country song. It's a good song. It's not my favorite.

Jay Franze: 46:17

It's not my favorite country song, but it's a good song. Yeah, we we've killed it. We've played that one to death.

SPEAKER_03: 46:22

Okay, spot number three is Parmaly with Cowgirl. I love that song. Yeah. And spot number two is Riley Green, Don't Mind If I Do, with Ella Langley.

Jay Franze: 46:40

Great song, great performance, great everything. Great everything. Why do we have to have the cheesy sound effects?

SPEAKER_03: 46:45

Because they're so good. They're so good. They make the show.

Jay Franze: 46:50

You say so.

SPEAKER_03: 46:52

And spot number one, Tucker Wetmore with three, two, one. Give him a sort of thing.

Jay Franze: 47:03

You don't like that song.

SPEAKER_03: 47:04

You gave him full.

Jay Franze: 47:05

No, I mean we can get about three-quarters of it, but you're over there, you know, killing it. It's a major chart. I was gonna go back to giving them a full applause, but you know, hey.

SPEAKER_03: 47:15

No, uh, not for 3, 2, 1. How did he even get to spot number one?

Jay Franze: 47:20

Money.

SPEAKER_03: 47:21

They clearly did not consult me.

Jay Franze: 47:23

Miss Kathy says the sound effects are good. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 47:26

Thank you, Mom. That's what makes it fun.

Jay Franze: 47:28

She's got three excited marks after.

SPEAKER_03: 47:31

I am her daughter. Yeah. Okay, let's go to the indie charts. And can we start at number 10? We can start off at number 10, and it is going to be I Want It All by Skip Ewing.

Jay Franze: 47:48

Oh, Skip, good to see you joining our chart.

SPEAKER_03: 47:50

Do you know Skip?

Jay Franze: 47:52

No. But it's still impressive.

SPEAKER_03: 47:56

It's still impressive. Okay, and spot number nine is going to be Too Good, Too Bad by Jason Scott and the High Heat. Nice. They must be from Florida. Spot number eight is going to be the song Steady by Jenna Paulette. I cannot wait till this comes out on the Spotify playlist because I have some homework. Give me work. Yeah, I have some homework to do here. You have homework so that I can do my homework. Okay. The spot number seven from spot number six is going to be Second Hand Smoke by Alex Miller.

Jay Franze: 48:34

Not a bad song. Not a bad. Okay. We're moving up. I got it. We're moving up.

SPEAKER_03: 48:40

Um spot number six is going to be Smells Like Whiskey by Jesse G. Okay. Climbed up a spot.

Jay Franze: 48:47

Half the people I know in Kentucky. Actually, they smell like bourbon. Sorry. I don't want to offend anybody.

SPEAKER_03: 48:53

I get it straight. Man, you're in bourbon country. Whiskey in Kentucky. Come on.

Jay Franze: 48:57

It was a slip of the whiskey in Tennessee. It's bourbon in Kentucky.

SPEAKER_03: 49:02

All right. Uh spot number five.

Jay Franze: 49:04

It's just a trip down the highway.

SPEAKER_03: 49:06

Well, if you're talking about the song Life's Highway, that is the next song I was going to tell you about.

Jay Franze: 49:11

Imagine that.

SPEAKER_03: 49:12

I know. What a beautiful segue.

Jay Franze: 49:14

Do you know that the guy who invented the segue died on the segue?

SPEAKER_03: 49:19

Stop. Oh my gosh.

Jay Franze: 49:21

I'm just saying, throwing that out there.

SPEAKER_03: 49:24

Okay, spot number five, Life's Highway. It is by Soul Circus Cowboys with Andy Griggs.

Jay Franze: 49:31

We gotta stop the presses here.

SPEAKER_03: 49:33

Okay.

Jay Franze: 49:34

Mark, Mark Botilato says that Sandy just came in to say goodnight and said happy almost birthday. Oh thank you, Miss Sandy. I appreciate it and I appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03: 49:44

Two days away.

Jay Franze: 49:45

Next time stay a little longer.

SPEAKER_03: 49:48

Good night, Sandy.

Jay Franze: 49:50

Good night, Sandy.

SPEAKER_03: 49:52

Okay, spot number four. It is gonna go to Could've Been Love by Bradenhole. Spot number three. Perfume on my jersey. Now Caleb, Caleb Lathrop. This this has been hanging around for a while. So that's yeah.

Jay Franze: 50:09

Unlike Miss Billy Joe Jones.

SPEAKER_03: 50:10

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 50:12

Saying she should still be on this list. Yeah. Yeah. To drop from like two to off the list completely is no not acceptable. Put her back, please.

SPEAKER_03: 50:21

Put her back. Well, spot number two. Three Sheets to the Wind by Kelly and Sarah. Wait for it. Wait for it. Spot number two.

Jay Franze: 50:35

Oh, you want it again? There you go.

SPEAKER_02: 50:42

Three Sheets to the Wind.

Jay Franze: 50:45

Oh, I'm sorry. Did you have something to say?

SPEAKER_03: 50:48

Yeah. Our second spot is going to be Three Sheets to the Wind by Kelly and Sarah.

Jay Franze: 50:54

Sarah with an H.

SPEAKER_03: 50:55

Sarah with an H. Nothing gets by you. No. No.

Jay Franze: 51:00

I met a Hannah today, Hannah with an H.

unknown: 51:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_03: 51:03

At the end? Because Hannah always starts with an H.

Jay Franze: 51:06

Hannah always has an H, but this one added at the end. I thought that was implied. But okay, no. So yes, it was Hannah. She was my waitress.

SPEAKER_03: 51:13

Oh, wow.

Jay Franze: 51:14

She was very nice. Well. I asked her if it was Hannah with an H. She said yes. And she says, you know what? I've been asked that a lot lately.

SPEAKER_03: 51:20

Oh. I feel like I've seen a lot of Hannah's without the H at the end lately. So maybe that's why she's getting asked.

SPEAKER_04: 51:27

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 51:27

I don't know. Okay. Well, spot number one is going to go to Hell That I Call Home by Porter Martin.

unknown: 51:36

Oh.

Jay Franze: 51:38

A little bit of applause for Porter. Maybe a little bit more.

unknown: 51:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 51:43

Not too much. Not too much. Don't get overzealous.

Jay Franze: 51:46

Carried away. Don't get carried away. He got some applause.

SPEAKER_03: 51:53

All right. Tell me, what's in that mailbag?

Jay Franze: 51:57

All right. Mike. Mike from Lexington, Kentucky. Nice. You're right down the road. Come by, say hello. Not my house, Mike. That's creepy.

SPEAKER_02: 52:08

Don't make it awkward.

Jay Franze: 52:09

Just wanted to say the pacing of the show lately is perfect. Nothing drags, nothing feels rushed.

SPEAKER_03: 52:15

We aim for perfection.

Jay Franze: 52:17

We do. We never hit it.

unknown: 52:20

We aim for it.

Jay Franze: 52:23

Speaking of Sarah with an H.

SPEAKER_03: 52:25

Yeah, tell me.

Jay Franze: 52:26

Good to see you here again. Thank you. She says, Jay's producer instincts come through even when he's not asking questions. Okay. Don't know what that means. Chris from Cincinnati, Ohio. Too many artists want numbers before they earn trust. Amanda from Clarksville, Tennessee.

SPEAKER_03: 52:46

Oh.

Jay Franze: 52:47

I had an employee get mugged in Clarksville this week.

SPEAKER_03: 52:50

Oh, snap. I have an ornament hanging on my tree from Clarksville.

Jay Franze: 52:57

Alright. Jay, Tiffany's reactions are your secret sauce. Dear God, I hope not.

SPEAKER_03: 53:06

I find that I crack myself up. Like I'll be listening to the episode back and then I'll react to something that I laughed just because I laughed.

Jay Franze: 53:17

Brian says, Do artists still move to Nashville, or is that mindset officially outdated? Well, I think we've talked about this before. I think if you want to be part of the industry, you need to be where the industry hangs out, and in this case, they hang out in Nashville. So yeah, I think that's still something you should be doing. Yep. You got other places like Austin, which might have a great live scene and everything, but the recording, the industry, the record labels, they're all in in Nashville. Kelly from Frankfurt, Kentucky, she says, I appreciate that you don't trash artists when reviewing their songs. You're honest, but you're not cruel.

SPEAKER_03: 53:53

Yep. We nice. I am, but anyway.

Jay Franze: 53:57

Yeah, yeah. Specifically, I mean, I think she mentioned that in there. He says Tiffany. No.

SPEAKER_03: 54:05

She's a you guys.

Jay Franze: 54:07

Oh, Jason says Tiffany. Jason says, Jason from Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville. They say Louisville here. Louisville. Not Louisville, not Louisville. No.

SPEAKER_03: 54:18

Louisville.

Jay Franze: 54:19

Now, growing up in Boston, we always called it Louisville, and it's because of Louisville Slugger. Right. The baseball bats that are made here. They call it Louisville Slugger. Shouldn't it be called Louisville? But no, they call it Louisville. Like a mouth, mouthful of marbles. Yep. Which works perfect for me, by the way. Jason from Louisville, Kentucky says, I love Tiffany.

SPEAKER_03: 54:41

Jason.

Jay Franze: 54:42

That's all.

SPEAKER_03: 54:43

Oh. Well, thank you, Jason.

Jay Franze: 54:48

Jason? She's at 323 Main Street. Emily from Murfreesboro, Tennessee.

SPEAKER_03: 54:56

Ooh, I know where that is.

Jay Franze: 54:57

Longtime listener.

SPEAKER_03: 54:59

First time commenter. First doesn't say that though.

Jay Franze: 55:03

It would have been perfect if it did, though. Just says longtime listener. This show feels like you're not trying to prove anything to anyone. You're just talking about things you love.

SPEAKER_04: 55:11

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 55:12

True statement. We don't care. We've got nothing to lose. You're not going to hurt our career. I don't think it could get any worse. You want to cancel us? Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02: 55:24

Try.

Jay Franze: 55:26

Oh. Mark, Mark E, not the Mark B. This is Mark E.

SPEAKER_02: 55:32

But what about Mark D?

Jay Franze: 55:34

Do we have a Mark D? We do have a Mark D, that's right. Michael and Michelle's brother. Oh no, this is Mark E.

SPEAKER_03: 55:43

We have Mark Alphabet Soup, is what we have.

Jay Franze: 55:45

A lot of marks and a lot of mics. Not enough Ike. Mark E from Ashland, Kentucky, says, Why do so many artists spend money on PR before they've even figured out what makes them any different?

SPEAKER_03: 56:00

Because they just get excited. They think that's the next step, but if you slow down, you realize there's a couple steps before that.

Jay Franze: 56:08

Sarah also with an H, but not the Sarah with an H. This is Sarah with an H M.

SPEAKER_03: 56:13

Oh.

Jay Franze: 56:14

So should we just say Sarah M? I mean, it wouldn't be fair to Sarah with an H with every Sarah Sarah.

SPEAKER_03: 56:19

I feel like yes. Thank you.

Jay Franze: 56:21

I think Sarah M from Nashville, Tennessee. People like to fill in that box. I like it. Too many artists blame algorithms when the real issue is consistency. All right. Chris. Chris D.

SPEAKER_03: 56:37

Okay. Is it Christy or Chris D?

Jay Franze: 56:42

Chris D. Just Chris. How about that? With an S?

SPEAKER_02: 56:50

With an S.

SPEAKER_03: 56:51

With a C.

Jay Franze: 56:54

We're only worried about what comes at the end, not at the beginning.

SPEAKER_03: 56:56

Okay, okay, okay, okay. I took it too far.

Jay Franze: 56:59

You took it too far. Jay, your sarcasm is perfectly calibrated. It never turns mean, but it does keep things honest. I'll take that. I I am proud of my sarcasm. Yes. My dry sense of humor.

SPEAKER_03: 57:16

You come by honestly from Boston.

Jay Franze: 57:18

There you go. It's your roots. I've learned to live with it at this point. I've tried to stop, you know, especially my wife doesn't like it. Oh. She doesn't like me being sarcastic. She's always apologizing for me when we go to restaurants and stuff. She apologizes to wait staff. I'm like, they have fun. Yeah. Just making them smile. Nothing wrong with that. She gets embarrassed. Easy. Amanda, also from Clarksville, Tennessee, says the chemistry between you and Tiffany feels real. It's not forced. Might not be forced on her side, but I'm forcing the hell out of it. Oh. Rob says, I like the fact that the show respects legacy artists and it gives them a space.

SPEAKER_04: 58:04

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 58:05

I think he's referring to artists like the Oak Ridge Boys.

SPEAKER_04: 58:08

Yeah.

Jay Franze: 58:08

Or the nitty-gritty dirt band. McBride and the Ride, I think, would even be considered a legacy artist.

SPEAKER_03: 58:15

I feel like they just they all put their time in, so you know.

Jay Franze: 58:18

They're great people. They're got great stories. They get better stories than the new artists.

SPEAKER_03: 58:22

Oh, for sure.

unknown: 58:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 58:24

That was before social media. That was before your cell phones could be tracked.

Jay Franze: 58:30

I want to talk to the new artists, but I mean, don't get me wrong, I do. They're great people, but they don't have stories yet. Live on the road for 20, 30 years, and then come back and tell me the stories. McBride and the Ride, I will still say to this day, if you want to hear the best stories, go listen to that episode. They told them some real winners there for sure. Kelly. Kelly says, I love Tiffany.

SPEAKER_03: 58:55

Yeah, well, I mean, there's a lot to love, Jay.

Jay Franze: 59:00

I don't know if that's true. You lost a lot of weight. There's not enough to love anymore. Another mark.

SPEAKER_03: 59:10

E, F, K.

Jay Franze: 59:12

You were right on the mind the first time. You should have stopped. Marky E.

SPEAKER_03: 59:17

Marky Mark.

Jay Franze: 59:19

Is touring still the best way for an independent artist to grow, or are there smarter paths now? I always say touring is the best way. Get in front of people, develop relationships, play your music, get people to like it. I think it it's very easy to put a song on social media and have a bunch of people thumb it up. But most people aren't even listening to it. Or if they do stop and listen, even think it's great. They thumb it up and they move on. But if you see somebody in a club or a small venue and you play and then you talk to them and develop that relationship, they're gonna come back over and over again. And to me, the biggest and best example of that is the band Cersei. They play, I mean, out of the 365 days a year, they probably play 300 of those days. And it's venues, small venues across Country and their audience loves them. They've got the biggest die-hard audience ever.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:19

Well, I was gonna say also, we do business with or we purchase things from people that we know like and trust, right? So when you are on stage and people can get a feel for who you are as an artist, what your voice sounds like, all those kinds of things, you make a much larger impact on the audience, each individual person in the audience, than if they saw you on social media, just like you're saying. You know, I just think that that builds that relationship that much stronger, and like I said, you get to make a much bigger impact on the audience than if they just saw you while they're randomly scrolling on their lunch break or something. And now they've got like memories attached to that night, and you know it's like a memory with a beat.

Jay Franze: 1:01:03

Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Lastly, Dave says, I trust your taste, even though I don't agree with it. Well, thank you, Dave. I don't know how to take that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:21

You're saying you got the the street cred to back up your opinions, but he doesn't necessarily agree with all of them.

Jay Franze: 1:01:29

Yeah. I get it. Can't agree with me all the time.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:32

No.

Jay Franze: 1:01:33

You can't be right all the time.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:34

No, Lord knows I try, but no.

Jay Franze: 1:01:38

Alright, moving on. What is going on?

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:41

What's going on?

Jay Franze: 1:01:43

Let's just talk about a couple of our favorite artists.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:47

Please. Where can we catch them? What are they doing? What are they playing?

Jay Franze: 1:01:51

Where let's start with one named Billy Joe Jones.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:56

Turquoise.

Jay Franze: 1:01:57

She's playing this Friday, January 9th.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:01

On your birthday?

Jay Franze: 1:02:04

You know what? It is my birthday.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:05

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Jay Franze: 1:02:07

And you know, I think she doesn't have it written here, but I believe it's a birthday celebration. It doesn't say that, but I'm fairly certain that's what she means.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:17

She's gonna be in Texas, probably singing. She is in Texas. Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:02:22

Yeah. However, she is then moving on to Florida.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:27

Oh woohoo!

Jay Franze: 1:02:29

So you have an opportunity.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:31

No, I think she's gonna be a little bit more than herself.

Jay Franze: 1:02:34

Slim opportunity, but you have one. Yes. She is um going to be in Texas for a couple more dates, and then she moves on to Florida. But that's gonna be in Key West.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:46

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Jay Franze: 1:02:47

So Yeah. Alright, moving on. Trey Halloway. Trey Calloway, oh, also playing on January 9th.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:55

Oh wow.

Jay Franze: 1:02:56

And it's being live streamed.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:58

Oh wow.

Jay Franze: 1:02:59

So here you go. Here's a perfect opportunity to see Trey Calloway live streamed. I'm assuming if it's live streamed, it's free, but I don't know that. Don't quote me. But it's an opportunity to see Trey Calloway from your home, anywhere that you're listening.

SPEAKER_04: 1:03:13

Woohoo.

Jay Franze: 1:03:14

This Friday, 10 30 p.m. Central Time.

unknown: 1:03:17

Oh.

Jay Franze: 1:03:18

Because he is in Nashville.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:20

Oh gosh.

Jay Franze: 1:03:21

It's also playing on the 10th and the 11th and the 15th and the 16th and 17th and the 18th. So he's he's got a lot of shows going on, and uh almost all of them, with the exception of Legend's Corner, which is on the 15th. They're all being streamed.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:41

Oh wow. Good for him.

Jay Franze: 1:03:44

What do you have going on this week, my friend?

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:47

Well, I would like to share the experience that I just had this evening, actually. So my husband is a huge fan of the show Bar Rescue, and this place, Arnold's, was on Bar Rescue. So he's been in to check it out before, but I said, Hey, I really want to go do this line dancing. It's down at Arnold's. And my husband was like, Yeah, okay, I'll go with you. I knew he wasn't going to line dance. I knew I'd be line dancing by myself. That was okay. But it was nice to be down there and just to check it out because it's really close to us. It's maybe 20 minutes. And so walk in, see the place. Let me just tell you, I went to beginner's night. I thought it was$10. No, it was only$5. Which I was like, I didn't know you could get anything for five dollars anymore, let alone it was like three hours of instruction.

Jay Franze: 1:04:39

You know what? I think our line dancing was five dollars too.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:42

Yeah, five dollars.

Jay Franze: 1:04:44

And it was three hours, or if I think it was four hours.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:48

Yeah, she was she was gonna go a little bit longer, but I had to get back because I had I had our raving fans, our crew members that needed to hear the headlines.

Jay Franze: 1:04:57

I'm done with them.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:00

Anyway, so that was kind of funny. Then there's this girl, and I remember you telling me about how Ella Langley wears the tall boots because she originally was uh she did actually fall, right?

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:13

Yeah, fell wearing it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:14

Yeah, and so she switched over to the tall boots. Well, this girl had tall boots on from the back, looked like Ella Langley, and I was like, okay, this girl, but let me just tell you, she basically had her no no hanging out, and I was like, You gotta cover that up, girl. No, and she was doing like very provocative line dancing the entire time, and I was like, okay, so we show up. I don't know what Sean was expecting, but I think he was expecting like five other people. No, even I was impressed how many people were there. There was probably 40 people, and it's not that big of a venue.

Jay Franze: 1:05:55

I want to get I want to get to the part where you're dancing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:58

Well, I lion danced. It was fine. I don't know. There's there's nothing exciting about that. I just was impressed that it was Did you pull anything? No, I didn't pull anything. Are you kidding me? I went out there, I put my boots on.

Jay Franze: 1:06:10

So you didn't meet anybody?

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:11

I didn't I didn't meet anybody, I didn't do anything. I it was very boring. My piece of it is very boring. What? What am I missing?

unknown: 1:06:21

No.

Jay Franze: 1:06:22

Please continue. Okay. I don't want to start, it's not worth it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:27

Okay. Anyhow, so I had a delightful evening. I will definitely go back. It was funny though. I mean, people came in with fans. They came in with your husband. Stanley Caps. I asked him if he would go back with me. I don't know if he wants to or not.

Jay Franze: 1:06:44

No, I'm asking you, would you bring him back?

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:46

Yeah. Yeah. He literally just sat at the bar and had a beer. And wings. Yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:06:54

See now? Yeah. Now it's okay.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:56

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, yeah. So it was a very good evening, and I would definitely love to go back. And if he wanted to join me, that'd be great. I tried to have another couple join us, but it didn't work out. It doesn't matter. We had fun.

Jay Franze: 1:07:08

So you want an open relationship?

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:10

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Couple swap. Then next week we will probably oh, maybe we will not. We have not decided yet if we're going to be recording live from PodFest. Is that next week? It's the week after.

Jay Franze: 1:07:27

No, it's next week.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:28

It's next week. Oh my gosh. Okay.

Jay Franze: 1:07:30

It is one week from today.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:32

One week from today. Anyways, yes, PodFest is next week. I'm very excited. I'm excited to see some of my clients. I'm excited to see Jay.

Jay Franze: 1:07:41

How come I come second?

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:43

I'm most excited to see Jay. And then my other clients. Some of my other clients will be there. But also just to like.

Jay Franze: 1:07:51

I'm a client to you now. That's how this relationship is.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:57

Noah. Oh my gosh, you are twisting my words. Now I have a uh I have a show husband. Twisting my words. Noah. Jay, you are the number one attraction for Podfest. I'm going for to see you. But then just uh check out things in the industry and other familiar faces, other people that I know that I will be able to say hi to. So I'm looking forward to that. What do you have going on, Mr. J?

Jay Franze: 1:08:37

Well, next week I should be attending this thing called Podfest.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:40

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:08:41

I will be in Orlando. If anybody wants to get together next week, if you get something in Orlando between what, Wednesday and Sunday, maybe if you get something going on, let me know. I'd love to go check out a show. I'd love to go do something. We'd love to get together. Yeah. You know, come watch us record live, apparently. I don't know what we're doing. Anyway, show's coming up in my area that I would like to see. We've got three big ones.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:06

Three big ones. Lay 'em on me.

Jay Franze: 1:09:09

Legacy artists.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:10

Okay.

Jay Franze: 1:09:11

We talked about Mark Chestnut earlier.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:13

Yeah, yeah.

Jay Franze: 1:09:14

So he's coming here.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:15

Okay.

Jay Franze: 1:09:16

Clay Walker and Lone Star.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:19

Oh, wow. Wow, it's a busy weekend.

Jay Franze: 1:09:22

It is not all this weekend.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:24

Oh.

Jay Franze: 1:09:25

No. February 6th, February 20th, and March 13th.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:30

Okay.

Jay Franze: 1:09:31

All right. Shall we wreck it? Let's wreck it.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:34

Mayday. Mayday.

Jay Franze: 1:09:38

All right, folks. We have done it. We have reached the top of the hour. We're actually at the bottom of the hour. We're doing pretty good tonight. Which does mean we have reached the end of the show. So if you've enjoyed the show, please tell a friend and Miss Tiffany if you have not. Tell two. We would love it if you would reach out to the both of us over at jfrenzy.com. We will keep this or any other conversation going. You can do that over at jfrenzy.com, which is also where you can find all of our socials and any other way to contact us. Everything you need to do, mailbag, drop-down menus, whatever you want to do, drop-down menus. They're all over at jfrenzy.com. Miss Tiffany, do you have any final words for us tonight?

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:14

Absolutely. Crew members, thank you so much for hanging out with us. It seriously would not be the same without you. Rest up, and we will see you back here next week.

Jay Franze: 1:10:24

On that note, folks, have a good night. Thanks for listening to the Jay Franzi Show. Make sure you visit us at JFranzi.com. Follow, connect, and stay hello.